* * * Wizards Community Thread * * * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Thread : Southern Isle of Dawn Started at 10-07-06 06:02 PM by mah9 Visit at http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=716932 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 1] Author : mah9 Date : 10-07-06 06:02 PM Thread Title : Southern Isle of Dawn Here's what there is of the southern part of the Isle of Dawn. Sources from DotE, TM2, M5, Andrew Theisen and Thibault Sarlat. http://www5.upload2.net/download/EQwUzN6qfAx8DFt/South_Isle_of_Dawn_8_mph.png A couple of questions about M5 first, Ekto (current position is based on DotE) is listed as being on the River Ek, as I would probably have a river flowing out into the bay to the west of where Ekto is situated on the map, and I don't feel comfortable with a river flowing through Ekto to that point. This leads me to believe that Ekto should be moved. Likewise Trikelios is listed in M5 as being on the Little Dawn River (another name for the Spider River?) and is also stated as being an important ship building center. I'm coming to the idea that it should be moved to the south east. Despite this, not sure it has been mentioned before, but the two maps are a totally different scale. Assuming that the scale of the map from DotE is correct (and it agrees with TM2, which is the only other canon source for this that I can find), the scale on the map form M5 is somewhere between 36 and 48 miles per hex. Apart from that they fit pretty well together. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 2] Author : Cthulhudrew Date : 10-07-06 06:17 PM Thread Title : Re: Southern Isle of Dawn A couple of questions about M5 first, Ekto (current position is based on DotE) is listed as being on the River Ek, as I would probably have a river flowing out into the bay to the west of where Ekto is situated on the map, and I don't feel comfortable with a river flowing through Ekto to that point. This leads me to believe that Ekto should be moved. Sounds reasonable to me. Don't recall exactly what I was planning to do with it myself. Likewise Trikelios is listed in M5 as being on the Little Dawn River (another name for the Spider River?) and is also stated as being an important ship building center. I'm coming to the idea that it should be moved to the south east. What I did with it, so as not to greatly upset the positioning on the maps as currently stands, is to have a tributary from the river going towards Trikelios, and have that be where the town is located. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 3] Author : maddog Date : 10-07-06 08:35 PM Thread Title : Re: Southern Isle of Dawn I don't see a way to see a full size image. You host doesn't appear to allow that. :( --Ray. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 4] Author : mah9 Date : 10-08-06 10:02 AM Thread Title : Re: Southern Isle of Dawn I don't see a way to see a full size image. You host doesn't appear to allow that. :( --Ray. Just checked, imageshack doesn't allow posting of over 1.5MB and it's jsut over the limit (although as the labels increase in number, so will the file size). Does anyone know of an image host that will take files over that size (potentially up to 5MB or more? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 5] Author : Zendrolion Date : 10-08-06 10:05 AM Thread Title : Re: Southern Isle of Dawn Another good work! :) Unfortunately I've had the same problem as maddog: your map doesn't want to be seen full-size... :weep: A couple of questions about M5 first, Ekto (current position is based on DotE) is listed as being on the River Ek, as I would probably have a river flowing out into the bay to the west of where Ekto is situated on the map, and I don't feel comfortable with a river flowing through Ekto to that point. This leads me to believe that Ekto should be moved.I don't see the problem of having Ek River flowing into the sea from the mountain chain to the west of Ekto. :confused: Care to explain? Likewise Trikelios is listed in M5 as being on the Little Dawn River (another name for the Spider River?) and is also stated as being an important ship building center. I'm coming to the idea that it should be moved to the south east.Here I think you're right. Canon maps had the nasty habit of putting cities in the most comfortable position on the map from the printing point of view... Examples of this are Helskir (a busy port that isn't ever on the sea: great... :rolleyes: ) or even Specularum (the capitol should be ON the river hex, not in the adjacent one). So I think moving Trikelios on the south-west toward that narrow bay featured on the map could be the most logical solution. Adding a river as Chtulhudrew suggested could be another one, but I don't see WHY the busiest naval port in the whole Alphatian Empire would have been built on a river inland instead of on the coast. ;) I think we have a similar problem with Edairo, but I'll say more on that when I'll se the map in a larger version. :D -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 6] Author : mah9 Date : 10-08-06 10:26 AM Thread Title : Re: Southern Isle of Dawn Right, managed to find a host that will take files up to 25MB. http://www.upload2.net/page/download/6At9e278WWKXtZz/South_Isle_of_Dawn_8_mph.png.html Clisck on the above link and scroll to the bottom of the page, there is a link there to download it. Hopefully, you will be able to see it properly this time. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 7] Author : maddog Date : 10-08-06 11:15 AM Thread Title : Re: Southern Isle of Dawn http://www.upload2.net/page/download/6At9e278WWKXtZz/South_Isle_of_Dawn_8_mph.png.html That one works! :) As with the northern IoD map...It's just beautiful! --Ray. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 8] Author : mah9 Date : 10-08-06 06:19 PM Thread Title : Re: Southern Isle of Dawn That one works! :) As with the northern IoD map...It's just beautiful! --Ray. Thanks As with the Northern map, this will change as a result of comments and suggestions from the members of this board (at least those that I feel comfortable with). I will try and redo the links as I repost the amended maps. Also, the site that I'm using for this has a one year limit on storing pictures, so you have that time limit. In addition it has a 25MB limit on picture size. This is a large amount, but once this part of my attempt to map this region is complete, I hope to publish a map fo the whole Isle of Dawn, but due to my PC being a complete pain (or rather my graphics card) this may not be possible. As some people may notice there is a (very) small region missing, but as it is not mentioned anywhere, it is not too much of a problem. I will post this at some point, but I'd rather try and do at as a part of a complete map than otherwise. As I have exams coming up, I may not have enough time to update as frequently as I have before, but all comments are noted and appreciated. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 9] Author : mah9 Date : 10-10-06 06:58 PM Thread Title : Re: Southern Isle of Dawn Have updated the map to modify the positions of Ekto and Trikelios. Introduced a new river (the River Ek) for Ekto to stand on (flows out to the inlet to the west on the 24 mile map). http://www5.upload2.net/download/EQwUzN6qfAx8DFt/South_Isle_of_Dawn_8_mph.png There should probably be a lot more villages in the eastern area (around Ekto, Trikelios and Edairo as these areas have been settled for a long time (being Nithian/Thothian colonies), but I think I'll leave that up to individuals to decide for themselves. @Mystaros: I'm not sure where you put the borders for the (sub)divisions of Septenteronia (Amanceria Meridonia, Ispaņa, Furmenglaive and Amanceria Septentrionia). Any help would be gratefully received. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Downloaded from Wizards Community (http://forums.gleemax.com) at 05-10-08 09:31 AM.