* * * Wizards Community Thread * * * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Thread : Backstabbing Started at 10-31-06 04:49 PM by Vampirelord Visit at http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=731478 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 1] Author : Vampirelord Date : 10-31-06 04:49 PM Thread Title : Backstabbing A question that came to mind when reading the rules for Backstabbing. What weapons are accessable when using this ability? As it says nothing about it, I assume that any is fine. So a multiclass F/T could backstastab with a halberd for example? Seems ridiculous to me... -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 2] Author : Agathokles Date : 10-31-06 05:09 PM Thread Title : Re: Backstabbing A question that came to mind when reading the rules for Backstabbing. What weapons are accessable when using this ability? As it says nothing about it, I assume that any is fine. So a multiclass F/T could backstastab with a halberd for example? Seems ridiculous to me... I'd assume any melee weapon allowed to a thief. Of course since the PHB doesn't say much on the topic, it's up to the individual DM. G. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 3] Author : Vampirelord Date : 10-31-06 05:34 PM Thread Title : Re: Backstabbing I'd assume any melee weapon allowed to a thief. Of course since the PHB doesn't say much on the topic, it's up to the individual DM. G. Well, yeah. That makes sense, but still... backstabbing with a club, lol. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 4] Author : kintire Date : 11-01-06 11:02 AM Thread Title : Re: Backstabbing backstabbing with a club, lol aka "coshing". Don't get hung up on the name too much. Its a precise attack executed on an unaware target... but they needed a punchier name than that! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 5] Author : Elendur Date : 11-01-06 12:01 PM Thread Title : Re: Backstabbing A question that came to mind when reading the rules for Backstabbing. What weapons are accessable when using this ability? As it says nothing about it, I assume that any is fine. So a multiclass F/T could backstastab with a halberd for example? Seems ridiculous to me... Ballistas work well, provided you can get it through the door of the tavern. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 6] Author : Vampirelord Date : 11-01-06 12:37 PM Thread Title : Re: Backstabbing aka "coshing". Don't get hung up on the name too much. Its a precise attack executed on an unaware target... but they needed a punchier name than that! If you think of it that way, I guess you could backstab with any weapon. It still seem quite cumbersome but it can be done. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 7] Author : weasel fierce Date : 11-01-06 02:09 PM Thread Title : Re: Backstabbing In AD&D1, it has to be a weapon permissable to the thief class. I forget if its different in 2nd edition, but thats how we always assumed it, being a thief ability and all -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 8] Author : pointyears Date : 11-01-06 02:21 PM Thread Title : Re: Backstabbing Hi, in Original D & D the Rules Cyclopedia says it must be a one handed melee weapon. Sorry if that's not your edition. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 9] Author : Vampirelord Date : 11-01-06 02:56 PM Thread Title : Re: Backstabbing Hi, in Original D & D the Rules Cyclopedia says it must be a one handed melee weapon. Sorry if that's not your edition. Oh, I forgot to specify edition. Im' talking about AD&D 2nd edition. :D -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 10] Author : Extempus Date : 11-01-06 04:49 PM Thread Title : Re: Backstabbing I'd always assumed that to backstab, one had to have a sharp weapon (ie, dagger or sword of some description) that could be wielded in one hand; the other would be used to grab the victim's shoulder, for instance, to steady him (or her) before the thief stuck him with his weapon. Thus, using a two-handed sword, a polearm or a club simply can't be done. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 11] Author : FingerThePick Date : 11-01-06 05:51 PM Thread Title : Re: Backstabbing I could see doing it with a one handed blunt weapon. Instead of sticking it through the ribs you crack 'em on the back of the skull. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 12] Author : emeriliath Date : 11-02-06 01:41 AM Thread Title : Re: Backstabbing Folks, Have you never heard of the blackjack? Time-honored weapon of the backstab. Basically a mini-club that knocked victims unconscious (who didn't have helmets). I'm basically a 1st/2nd ed player, and I've never seen a backstab that wasn't a shortsword, dagger or club (at least I can't remember it). Clubs were the lowest frequency of the three (probably only one character ever used it). -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 13] Author : oralpain Date : 11-02-06 03:19 AM Thread Title : Re: Backstabbing I think the rules (2E) intend to allow any melee weapon on the thief list. Personally, I will allow almost any weapon the character is proficent in, given a plausible situation. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Downloaded from Wizards Community (http://forums.gleemax.com) at 05-10-08 08:18 AM.