* * * Wizards Community Thread * * * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Thread : The Ruins of Myth Drannor Started at 12-31-06 12:18 AM by Penknight Visit at http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=763797 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 1] Author : Penknight Date : 12-31-06 12:18 AM Thread Title : The Ruins of Myth Drannor Hello fellow 2nd Editioners and colleagues of the boards. I am going to be running a 2nd Edition campaign after the conclusion of our current 3.5 campaign. (I miss the old days. Feeling nostalgic :)). I was hoping that those of you that played through The Ruins of Myth Drannor would be so kind as to share some of your memories and experiences with me. I never had the chance or opprotunity to adventure there myself, and recently got it as a Christmas gift. It made me long for the old days of learning the game and having good old fashioned, simple fun. Thanks! :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 2] Author : Llwch Date : 12-31-06 02:52 AM Thread Title : Re: The Ruins of Myth Drannor Hello fellow 2nd Editioners and colleagues of the boards. I am going to be running a 2nd Edition campaign after the conclusion of our current 3.5 campaign. (I miss the old days. Feeling nostalgic :)). I was hoping that those of you that played through The Ruins of Myth Drannor would be so kind as to share some of your memories and experiences with me. I never had the chance or opprotunity to adventure there myself, and recently got it as a Christmas gift. It made me long for the old days of learning the game and having good old fashioned, simple fun. Thanks! :) Great set, btw. Bought it years ago, have read and re-read it several times, but have never had a chance to run it. That may change, given that my kids are getting older, and are getting into D&D (start with the BECMI rules first, then will jump to 2nd Edition AD&D). -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 3] Author : Horemheb442 Date : 12-31-06 05:43 PM Thread Title : Re: The Ruins of Myth Drannor I also just got it in a bunch of stuff I bought from a used bookstore going out of business. I've had 3 offers for it already, just from the folks I game with. Looks like it will be fun. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 4] Author : Penknight Date : 01-01-07 11:32 PM Thread Title : Re: The Ruins of Myth Drannor Great set, btw. Bought it years ago, have read and re-read it several times, but have never had a chance to run it. That may change, given that my kids are getting older, and are getting into D&D (start with the BECMI rules first, then will jump to 2nd Edition AD&D). I also just got it in a bunch of stuff I bought from a used bookstore going out of business. I've had 3 offers for it already, just from the folks I game with. Looks like it will be fun.Well then, gentlemen... here's to us discovering what the ruins are all about! :D Though it will take some time to get started on my 2nd Edition campaign, I will post here (if I can find the thread still) and let you guys know what is going on with my players. Reminiscing about your own adventures of the ruins would still be great to see for those that have played through it, as well as thoughts from other DMs. Here's to high adventure!! *raises sword high* -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 5] Author : True_Atlantean Date : 01-03-07 05:25 AM Thread Title : Re: The Ruins of Myth Drannor Penknight, you are an inspiration. I have been busily dusting off my Dragonlance books and looking whether I want to run first or second edition when I read your post. I do like your statement about "good old fashioned, simple fun" with no prestige classes or feats to be seen! Ruins was a great set, and one that challenged the players. I have played small parts of it and, like Undermountain and Dragon Mountain, holds a special place [mostly of dread] in my heart. Do your background reading though, reading the Forgotten Realms novels are a must for any DM of that setting and will help you flavour the set appropriately [but then you probably already know that :) ]. Have fun and let us all know how it turns out. "raises sword high in salute" -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 6] Author : Penknight Date : 01-03-07 04:40 PM Thread Title : Re: The Ruins of Myth Drannor Penknight, you are an inspiration. I have been busily dusting off my Dragonlance books and looking whether I want to run first or second edition when I read your post. I do like your statement about "good old fashioned, simple fun" with no prestige classes or feats to be seen! Ruins was a great set, and one that challenged the players. I have played small parts of it and, like Undermountain and Dragon Mountain, holds a special place [mostly of dread] in my heart. Do your background reading though, reading the Forgotten Realms novels are a must for any DM of that setting and will help you flavour the set appropriately [but then you probably already know that :) ]. Have fun and let us all know how it turns out. "raises sword high in salute"Thank you, my friend. Your kind words are greatly appreciated. These days it seems that people are more concerned with getting the right feats and prestige classes to make them invincible than with having fun and enjoying themselves. It truly makes me a bit sad to see the same in some of my own players... people that used to live to roleplay an encounter rather than just roll a d20 and add their diplomacy total. *shakes head sadly* The Ruins of Myth Drannor to me always seemed to bring out the best in a party. Teamwork was needed to survive, caution must be thrown to the winds, and careful planning of how to tackle the next venture into the ruins. I think that Undermountain does the same thing, as does many of the 1st Edition modules, such as White Plume Mountain and Tomb of Horrors. And yes, you are right about the reading. I am reading through my Elaine Cunningham books again, along with The Lost Library of Cormanthyr, and also Elves of Evermeet, Cormanthyr Empire of Elves, and The Fall of Myth Drannor. I have always been an elf fan, and have always taken great pride in my elven campaigns, trying to run them with the same care that a father would show a child, and the effect it has had on my players has caused them to create wonderful and memorable characters that all of us still talk about to this day. I have also ran a fraction of The Fall of Myth Dranor in the past, and plan on using some of the friends that my PCs made with other characters as locations for adventure (well, their tombs anyway). If you have any other reading recommendations, please let me know. And thank you for posting what you did, my friend. It's great to see people who feel the way that I do about the older editions of our favorite game. My best to you in your campaigns, and let us know how your game turns out as well. :) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 7] Author : True_Atlantean Date : 01-05-07 05:36 AM Thread Title : Re: The Ruins of Myth Drannor Thank you, my friend. Your kind words are greatly appreciated. These days it seems that people are more concerned with getting the right feats and prestige classes to make them invincible than with having fun and enjoying themselves. It truly makes me a bit sad to see the same in some of my own players... people that used to live to roleplay an encounter rather than just roll a d20 and add their diplomacy total. *shakes head sadly* If you have any other reading recommendations, please let me know. And thank you for posting what you did, my friend. It's great to see people who feel the way that I do about the older editions of our favorite game. My best to you in your campaigns, and let us know how your game turns out as well. :) Penknight, I can remember recently my disbelief at a group of gamers that met up with some of us at the local gaming store and were included in our conversation which [inevitably] turned to 'the good old days'. I took a step back and nodded as the guys spoke about the terror felt in the Tomb of Horrors, the Temple of Elemental Evil (which I'm running for my current group at the moment) and how truly difficult some of the riddles were. The younger group chipped in with their comments but soon the talk turned to min-maxing and new feats, how one of them had figured out how to do 192 points of damage on a crit with his 5th level character.... I reached into my gaming bag and pulled out my copy of the books from "The Red Box", which are my lucky charms that come with me to gaming sessions. Opening the players book up, I showed them the character sheet. There was a moment of silence, followed by puzzlement and then one of them asked "But where is the rest of it? Where do you put all your stuff?" Good natured laughter was shared by the older crew (it certainly wasn't our intent to mock, and the young guys took no offence) and we've secured a promise from them that sometime in the near future, when they are all back in town from university, we're going to have a game with "The Red Box". I'm looking forward at showing the newer generation what the old school looks like. I'm even thinking of insidiously adding a first ed, or Red Box module into the D&D Games Day events for 2007. As the organiser, I might just get away with it... Lastly, if you are looking for some good inspiration novel-wise, look at Shadowdale and The Finders Stone trilogy. Both are, of course, set in the area, and Finder Stone offers a showdown outside of Myth Drannor. May I also say that I'm finding the Out-of-print forums to be a place of somewhat better behaviour and courtesy than most of the other forums at WotC. Says a lot of the people here. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 8] Author : Llwch Date : 01-05-07 07:30 PM Thread Title : Re: The Ruins of Myth Drannor May I also say that I'm finding the Out-of-print forums to be a place of somewhat better behaviour and courtesy than most of the other forums at WotC. Says a lot of the people here. That's 'cuz (for the most part), we're the "gaming geezers"... with age, comes wisdom. Or so they say. My wife might disagree, though. :heehee -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 9] Author : Horemheb442 Date : 01-05-07 09:20 PM Thread Title : Re: The Ruins of Myth Drannor Gaming Geezer...! I think I resemble that remark. Back when they did the 30 Anniversary of D&D celebration, I ran a 2nd Ed "Training Dungeon" for that at the local game store. I think you'll be fine running a classic style dungeon. It was funny. I had earlier started a campaign there with the same adventure. This campaign I've been running for over 20 years and I am writing a novel based on it. We got through character generation easily, I think that is actually fun. There were a couple of GGs along to help the newbies and 3rd only people. Everything was ready to go and I trotted out all maps I had generated for the campaign. Then I started weaving the background story for them, with all the intertwined associations, rival kingdoms, history and set-up. Truely, most of the younger guys sat there with their eyes wide and their mouths open. After weaving the tale they were to be part of, they leaped into the game like otters playing in a river. After a couple of sessions, one of the young guys who was a very active DM in 3rd Ed.,came up to me after the session and said, "You know, after doing your 2nd ed game, I am totally rethinking what it means to be a DM." I explained to him that the system lends itself to that by the values it pushes. It encourages stories for characters to live in, not characters to go after the game with. Hope your "troops" have a great time. [The priest raises the Ankh and intones " Neb Djehwety, sedjem ef, heree hebet." and gestures to the warriors before him, "enah, wadjah, seneb." {Lord Thoth, hearest thou thy priest. Live, Be happy, Be Safe and Sound.}] -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 10] Author : Dochenor Date : 01-06-07 02:33 AM Thread Title : Re: The Ruins of Myth Drannor Way back in the day, before my hair was salt in pepper, i was in the Navy. While stationed in San Diego, i bought a The Ruins of Myth Drannor box set. I put up a flyer and got almost thirty responses! After several interviews and gladiator style tornaments, be got down to six players. The characters were level 7-10 i beleive. Pretty good mix, or so we thought. Myth Drannor ate that group in two sessions! Man, what a crazy place to visit. We had a lot of fun and tried again after a few weeks. The group had a new DM and we lasted for five sessions. I still remeber on of the players comment. "The Ruins of Myth Drannor is where you send your character to die!" Loved the game. Wish i still had it. You are very lucky. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 11] Author : True_Atlantean Date : 01-06-07 11:23 PM Thread Title : Re: The Ruins of Myth Drannor "The Ruins of Myth Drannor is where you send your character to die!" I thought that was Undermountain [nervous tick betrays that the therapy never actually worked] :) Lastly, I'd reckon that adding the Gaming Geezer tag to one's sig should be a sign of prestige. It would allow us to identify each other far more readily. A bit of a tongue-in-cheek semi-clandestine group. Tickled my funny bone at least. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 12] Author : Mortepierre Date : 01-07-07 05:34 AM Thread Title : Re: The Ruins of Myth Drannor I reached into my gaming bag and pulled out my copy of the books from "The Red Box", which are my lucky charms that come with me to gaming sessions. Opening the players book up, I showed them the character sheet. There was a moment of silence, followed by puzzlement and then one of them asked "But where is the rest of it? Where do you put all your stuff?" You know, whenever I hear about something like this, I remember the opening statement of a funny comics: http://goblinscomic.com/d/20051112.html :D Good ol' days indeed! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 13] Author : Penknight Date : 01-08-07 08:11 PM Thread Title : Re: The Ruins of Myth Drannor Sorry it took me so long to get back here. After my last post, I have been helping to plan a birthday surprise for a friend of mine, and then my own birthday was yesterday. I really enjoy hearing about how 3e gamers react when they see 1st and 2nd Edition stuff, so thanks for posting that story, Atlantean. And yes, the people are far nicer here (and are far more articulate) than elsewhere on the boards. I guess that comes with XP. I mean, experience. ;) -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 14] Author : Penknight Date : 01-08-07 08:17 PM Thread Title : Re: The Ruins of Myth Drannor Way back in the day, before my hair was salt in pepper, i was in the Navy. While stationed in San Diego, i bought a The Ruins of Myth Drannor box set. I put up a flyer and got almost thirty responses! After several interviews and gladiator style tornaments, be got down to six players. The characters were level 7-10 i beleive. Pretty good mix, or so we thought. Myth Drannor ate that group in two sessions! Man, what a crazy place to visit. We had a lot of fun and tried again after a few weeks. The group had a new DM and we lasted for five sessions. I still remeber on of the players comment. "The Ruins of Myth Drannor is where you send your character to die!" Loved the game. Wish i still had it. You are very lucky.Now that sounded like fun! Were there elves in your party, and did they roleplay seeing the ruins well? My players really enjoy hearing how the NPCs (as well as their fellow players) deal with situations that affect their race. One of my players upon hearing about my wanting to use The Ruins of Myth Drannor started thinking about playing a bladesinger, most likely a moon elf, since my players are not very fond of sun elves. I use sun elves the way the sourcebooks recommend, as big brothers that are constantly trying to help and come off as overbearing. Have any of you played elven knights or bladesingers in your own Ruins campaigns, or even moonfighters? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 15] Author : Llwch Date : 01-08-07 10:20 PM Thread Title : Re: The Ruins of Myth Drannor Myth Drannor ate that group in two sessions! Man, what a crazy place to visit. We had a lot of fun and tried again after a few weeks. The group had a new DM and we lasted for five sessions. I still remeber on of the players comment. "The Ruins of Myth Drannor is where you send your character to die!" Hmmm... I wonder... Once I move my kids to 2e, and through the Pools of Radiance & Curse of the Azure Bonds adventures... And since they'll be in Myth Drannor anyway... :devil: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Downloaded from Wizards Community (http://forums.gleemax.com) at 05-10-08 08:21 AM.