* * * Wizards Community Thread * * * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Thread : Some extra eyes please... Started at 02-09-07 09:37 AM by Eclipse Lutgehr Visit at http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=788354 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 1] Author : Eclipse Lutgehr Date : 02-09-07 09:37 AM Thread Title : Some extra eyes please... Hey all. I'm looking around myself but I can't seem to find the answer to this question. I've recently started as a player in a 2nd edition game with some heavy aspects of Forgotten Realms and Birthright. I play a elven ranger who's patron deity is Solonor Thelandira. As my only 2nd edition book is the player's handbook (I'm thinking first printing, the one with the horse on the cover), I pulled this god from my 3e collection in Faiths and Pantheons. My question boils down to, does this god exist in the 2e world(s)? If so, in what pantheon(s), and what does he/she stand for? If not, does anyone know of another 2e elven god of hunting/tracking could I take instead (I'm trying to avoid the generic Corellon here)? Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks :cool: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 2] Author : SamualT Barronsword Date : 02-09-07 04:53 PM Thread Title : Re: Some extra eyes please... My question boils down to, does this god exist in the 2e world(s)? Yes. The 2E book "Monster Mythology" has a write up on this god. If so, in what pantheon(s), and what does he/she stand for? The Elven Pantheon, he (his avatar appears as "a strong, sinous male elf") is the elven god of hunting, archery and survival in the wild. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 3] Author : Agathokles Date : 02-09-07 04:54 PM Thread Title : Re: Some extra eyes please... My question boils down to, does this god exist in the 2e world(s)? If so, in what pantheon(s), and what does he/she stand for? Sure. He is in the default Elven Pantheon, the Seldarine (the one used in Forgotten Realms and Greyhawk, that is). I suppose the 3e background information shouldn't be too different from what was said in AD&D sources. BTW, all of this assumes that elves are not among the aspects your campaign borrows from Birthright, because Cerilian elves have no gods. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 4] Author : Eclipse Lutgehr Date : 02-09-07 05:01 PM Thread Title : Re: Some extra eyes please... Thank you both. That is a surprise that they changed the god's gender though. Meh, semantics. And yes, there are elven gods, just according to the DM, they haven't been talking much during the past couple of centuries (his plot-line). I just wanted to flesh out this character to make 'em feel a bit more real. Like which god should I thank for a bountiful or just plain successful hunt, since he is a ranger after all. Thanks again. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 5] Author : Varl Date : 02-09-07 10:37 PM Thread Title : Re: Some extra eyes please... Thank you both. That is a surprise that they changed the god's gender though. Meh, semantics. They made Solonor a goddess in d20? Figures. :mad: -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 6] Author : Eclipse Lutgehr Date : 02-10-07 09:43 AM Thread Title : Re: Some extra eyes please... They made Solonor a goddess in d20? Figures. :mad: Check faiths and pantheons. Either it's a lot of typos and they just gave him a more robust chest, or they switched his gender. It's a hard line between god/goddess anyway. As beings of immense power and nigh omnipotence, I'd suspect they could change gender at a whim if they were bored with being one. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 7] Author : tndrsprttalon Date : 02-10-07 11:32 PM Thread Title : Re: Some extra eyes please... The Book elves of evermeet has more on elven deities mine is in storage so I will update ifn you dont find anything -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 8] Author : Eclipse Lutgehr Date : 02-10-07 11:50 PM Thread Title : Re: Some extra eyes please... The Book elves of evermeet has more on elven deities mine is in storage so I will update ifn you dont find anything Not that I don't want to believe everyone else who's posted, but I would appreciate it. I've managed to find myself a copy of Monster Mythology and Solonor isn't in there. Maybe it's an incomplete version or something, but I can't find him anywhere. And not to be stingy I'd like some hard facts to present to my DM that he is in fact a real god. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 9] Author : Extempus Date : 02-11-07 04:16 AM Thread Title : Re: Some extra eyes please... Solonor Thelandira is listed in Monster Mythology, p. 25. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 10] Author : Eclipse Lutgehr Date : 02-11-07 08:02 AM Thread Title : Re: Some extra eyes please... Solonor Thelandira is listed in Monster Mythology, p. 25. I can't attest to that, however, I have found something that seems to be an index listing of the gods in that book, and Solonor is on that. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 11] Author : Arcanda Date : 02-11-07 12:35 PM Thread Title : Re: Some extra eyes please... Solonor Thelandira Keen-Eye, the Great Archer, the Forest Hunter Intermediate Power of Arborea CG PORTFOLIO: Archery, hunting, wilderness survival ALIASES: None DOMAIN NAME: Olympus/Arvandor SUPERIOR: Corellon Larethian ALLIES: Chauntea, Cyrrollalee, Emmantiensien, Eldath, Eilistraee, Ferrix, Fionnghuala, Gwaeron Windstrom, Oberon, Mielikki, Nobanion, Shaundakul, Silvanus, Skerrit, Tirania, the Seldarine, various Animal Lords FOES: Bhaal (dead), Gorellik, Grankhul, Grolantor, Malar, Moander, the Queen of Air and Darkness, Talos, the drow pantheon (except Eilistraee) SYMBOL: Silver arrow with green fletching WOR. ALIGN.: LG, NG, CG, LN, N, CN Solonor Thelandira (SOE-lue-nohr Theh-LAN-dih-ruh) is the elven god of hunting, archery, and survival in wild and harsh places. The Great Archer's prowess with the bow is unmatched by any other power venerated in the Realms. Solonor is concerned with the integrity of nature and the balance between exploitation and agriculture on one hand and fallow, wild terrains on the other. Like Corellon Larethian and Fenmarel Mestarine, the Great Archer watches over the boundaries of elven lands. He instructs the Fair Folk in the art of hiding in and moving through natural foliage so as not to be detected as well as the art of archery and hunting. Solonor is primarily revered by elven and half-elven rangers, hunters, woodsmen, and fighters. In particular, elven hunters appeal to him for better catches ot game and elven warriors trapped in hostile territory call on him for aid. In recent centuries a few humans, primarily hunters, have joined his faith as well. Solonor is allied with all the powers who collectively compose the Seldarine. In particular, the Great Archer works closely with Corellon Larethian, Fenmarel Mestarine, and Shevarash to defend the borders of elven homelands. In many tales, Fenmarel is said to be the brother of Solonor, and despite the former's estrangement from the Seldarine for which Solonor holds Lolth responsible, the Lone Wolf and the Great Archer are still close allies. Solonor has served as Shevarash's mentor since the green elf's apotheosis, and the two are united in their hatred of the Spider Queen and her followers, the drow, although the Great Archer is not as consumed with vengeance as the Night Hunter. Solonor and Rillifane Rallathil work closely to preserve and protect the natural world. Although the Great Archer is more tolerant of the slow growth of civilization than the Leaflord, a philosophical difference that sometimes spills over into the relations between their two faiths, they are united in their efforts to preserve the great forests of the Fair Folk from the relentless expansion of humankind. Solonor and Eilistraee are true kindred spirits, with some myths depicting them as half-siblings and other myths suggesting a burgeoning romantic relationship (much to the dismay of both Shevarash and Fenmarel). Among the nonelven powers, Solonor is closely allied with other powers concerned with the natural world, including Mielikki, Lady of Forests, another goddess with which he has been romantically linked, Silvanus the Oakfather, Skerrit the Forester, and the various Animals Lords, particularly those concerned with hunting such as the Cat Lord and Wolf Lord. Solonor despises powers that favor despoliation over nature, and actively opposes the efforts of such gods and their followers. Solonor's greatest foes are Malar and Talos, followed closely by Lolth and members of the Unseelie Court. The Beastlord's eternal, unquenchable bloodlust is a vile perversion of every principle Solonor holds dear. Likewise, the Destroyer's hunger for destruction works to tear apart the delicate lance the Greater Archer has striven to forge and maintain. The Queen of Air and Darkness, much like the Spider Queen, embodies the corruption that can take root even in the hearts of even those of fey ancestry and against which the Great Archer stands ever vigilant. Solonor is always in pursuit of quarry, and he rarely remains in one location for very long. Unlike many hunters, the Great Archer stalks prey only out of concern for the overall balance between the species and to destroy evil-doers, particularly the drow. His serious, sometimes grim, demeanor reflects the difficulty he faces in forging a workable compromise between the competing forces of civilization and wilderness, instinct and knowledge, and savagery and domesticity. Solonor's word is his bond, and his pledge is never given lightly. Solonor does not close to do battle with an enemy, but tracks and pursues instead, firing arrows from a never-empty quiver. The favorite tactic of this deity, should he anticipate battling a particularly dangerous foe, is to physically touch that being and then retreat. Once by himself again, he can then manufacture a special arrow of slaying designed especially to kill that one opponent, should it strike home. He then hunts his quarry relentlessly, hoping to bring him down in a single shot. Many fiends from the Lower Planes have felt the bite of Solonor's deadly arrows. The Church CLERGY: Clerics, rangers CLERGY'S ALIGN.: NG, CG, CN TURN UNDEAD: C: Yes, R: No CMND. UNDEAD: C: No, R: No All clerics (including multiclassed half-elven clerics and elven cleric/rangers, a multiclassed combination allowed to elven priests of Solonor) and rangers of Solonor receive religion (elf) and reading/writing (elvish) as bonus nonweapon proficiencies. Single-classed clerics of Solonor must select a weapon proficiency in either the long bow or short bow, at twice the regular cost. While Solonor is well regarded throughout elven society, most of his worshipers are drawn from those Fair Folk who live outside the great cities in small forest communities. His worship is particularly prevalent among sylvan elves and high elven commoners involved in the day-to-day realities of living in harmony with nature and preserving the environment in the face of the destructive impulses of other races. While some gold elves drawn to the simple appeal of living in direct harmony with the woods may be found in Solonor's church, for the most part the Ar-Tel'Quessir and even the haughtiest Teu-Tel'Quessir nobility romanticize the teachings of the Great Archer while contemptuously dismissing those who compose the ranks of the Great Archer's faithful as base and worthy of a small measure of scorn. Temples of Solonor can be found at the heart of deep forests, only accessible via carefully hidden and guarded woodland paths. The Great Archer's houses of worship are a mixture of natural and carefully sculpted features emphasizing the competing principles that Solonor tries to balance. Most temples are cultivated in a grove of trees carefully tended from seedlings to form two or more concentric rings of forest giants. Each tree is grown so as to form one or more natural hollows within its trunk at various elevations, and vine rope bridges are threaded through each tightly packed grove to connect the chambers in the heart of each tree. At ground level, roots, rocks, earth, plants are woven into near impregnable defensive fortifications to ensure the sanctity of the temple perimeter. Earthen chambers are hewn from the dirt beneath the grove, nestled among the tightly woven root structures. In the surrounding woods, trees are carefully planted so as to create narrow, spokelike paths radiating outward from the central grove. Although not immediately obvious to casual observation, the plant growth along such paths is cultivated so as to impede movement but permit the flight of arrows, thus forming natural shooting galleries in which invaders are easily targeted. Solonor's temples contain both ceremonial chambers adorned with hunting trophies and hollows with more practical applications such as crafting and repairing bows and arrows, the curing of venison and other meats, the tanning of hides, and the carving of bones toform tools and figurines. Novices of Solonor are known as Fledglings. Full priests of Keen-Eye are known as Hawkeyes. In ascending order of rank, the titles used by Solonoran priests are Fletcher, Bowyer, Archer, Gray Wolf, Snow Tiger, Grizzly Bear, Blood Hawk, Fire Falcon, and Gold Eagle. High-ranking priests have unique individual titles. Specialty priests are known as rangers. The clergy of Solonor includes moon elves (33%), green elves (28%), gold elves (22%), half-moon elves (8%), half-green elves (3%), half-gold elves (2%), lythari (3%), and a handful (1%) of elves and half-elves of other ancestries. Solonor's clergy includes rangers (36%), cleric/rangers (33%), and clerics (31%), including half-elven multiclassed clerics other than cleric/rangers. The clergy is almost equally divided amongmales (52%) and females (48%). Dogma: Walk in harmony with nature and oppose the efforts of those who would disturb her delicate balance. Preserve thewild places from excessive encroachment, and work with those who would settle the land to preserve the beauty that first attracted them. Hunt only for sustenance, culling the old and the weak from the herd so that all species may prosper. Like an arrow in flight, it is difficult to arrest the consequences of an action. Choose your targets carefully, for an ill-considered action can have a long-reaching impact. Day-to-Day Activities: Solonor's priests serve as scouts and archers in elven armies, as bowyers, fletchers, and archery instructors in elven settlements, and as hunters and providers for far-flung rural communities. Among those Fair Folk who largely eschew the trappings of civilization, members of Solonor's priesthood preside over initiation ceremonies into adulthood. Hawkeyes serve the Great Archer by working to maintain the balance of nature. Solonor's priests are deadly enemies of those who worship Malar, Talos, or Moander, and they often join forces with those who serve the Leaflord in order to exterminate followers of those evil gods whenever they make their presence known. Holy Days/Important Ceremonies : Solonor's faithful generally eschew frivolous celebrations, considering them unnecessary distractions to the tasks at hand. Once per lunar month, under the soft light of the full moon, the Great Archer's faithful assemble to give thanks for the skills Solonor has taught and the bounty thus provided. Hunters sacrifice hunting trophies that cannot otherwise be employed, and unbroken arrows engraved with the symbol of Solonor are fired into the sky to poke holes in the firmament and allow the light of Solonor's teachings to shine forth on his people (these arrows are never fired in a direction that would cause them to fall where they might hurt someone, including straight up). Each Shield-meet, known to the Fair Folk as Cinnaelos'Cor (the Day of Corellon's Peace), the followers of Solonor assemble to compete in great archery meets. The winners of such contests are said to receive the Keen-Eye mark of the Great Archer, a blessing that confers a +1 attack bonus on all attacks made with a bow until the next Shieldmeet. Major Centers of Worship: Moondark Hill is located in the Vale of Evereska-discussed in greater detail in the entry for Hanali Celanil-on the eastern fringes of the moon elven city at the base of one of the greatest peaks of the Shaeradim. Eastpeak's shadow cloaks the low knoll in darkness for much of the night when the moon is full, giving rise to the hill's name. The Great Archer's faithful gather to worship their god when the full moon rises above the top of Eastpeak and its light washes over the hilltop like a wave of silver. Built into the steep western slope of Moondark Hill is the Hall of the High Hunt, a great openair pavilion encircled by a tightly packed colonnade of ancient shadowtops. A pure mountain spring rises in the heart of the hill and winds through a series of natural caverns before exiting at the heart of the Shadowtop Glade. When in residence, Solonor's clergy dwell in the caves of Moondark Hill amidst the great hunting trophies of the faithful. The leader of the priesthood is High Huntsman Pleufan Trueshot, an ancient moon elf who is said to have hunted in the Far Horns forest that once covered much of the Backlands. Much to the dismay of much of the Evereskan moon elven nobility, Pleufan has invited human and half-elven followers of the Great Archer-most of whom are Harpers or Heralds-to worship at the Hall of the High Hunt during the monthly ceremonies whenever they wish. Some haughty Teu-Tel'Quessir have gone as far as to move their estates to the far side of the valley in response. The moon elven village of Ssrenshen, known to humans as Moonrise Hill, is located in the northern reaches of Deepingdale between Lake Sember and the Glaemril at the foot of Moonrise Crag in an old, thickly grown stand of ash, duskwood, and oak trees. Like the elven village of Velethuil (Bristar) to the southwest, it is the source of many skilled elven archers in the army of the Dale. The archers of Moonrise Hill are known for their amazing feats with the bow-such as hitting the eye of a bird in flight a mile away-and the Fair Folk attribute the prowess at archery of the village's in-habitants to the blessings of Solonor and an ancient tradition dating back before the fall of Myth Drannor. In the Year of Old Crowns (-91 DR), the Moonshadows, a company of rangers, fighters, fighter/mages, and even a few wizards known for their skill at archery, were formed to guard the forests of Semberholme and its environs. While the elven presence in the woods enveloping Lake Sember is much reduced today, the ancient traditions of the Moonshadows are continued by the elven archers of Ssrenshen and they continue to patrol the region. In the center of the village is the petrified stump of an ancient oak tree nearly 50 feet in diameter whose branches once towered over both the village and bald-topped crag millennia ago. A great hollow has been carved out of the heart of the tree, and it serves as both the chapter-house of the Moonshadows and as a sacred temple of Solonor. Moonrise Hollow, as the temple and hall is known, consists of both the hollowed out stump and the earthen cellars dug amidst its ancient roots. Many of the greatest hunting trophies and tombs of the greatest archers of Cormanthor may be found in these earthen catacombs, as can the Greenshaft, a holy relic of the Solonoran faith said to be the first arrow shot from the bow of the Forest Hunter in the Elven Woods in a time before the Fair Folk walked beneath the endless forest canopy. Affiliated Orders: Solonor's church is affiliated with a large number of military orders, few of which number more than several score warriors. The Stag Hunters, the Fellowship of the Fleeting Hart, the Wolves of Dawn, the Shadowsheafs, the Knights of the Green Bow, the Keen-eyed Hunters, and the Archer Knights are particularly famous examples of bands of elven rangers, fighters, and/or priests dedicated to serving the Great Archer. Many less renowned bands stalk the shadowed forest paths of Faerun as well, guarding the woodlands, the Fair Folk, and their allies who dwell within. Priestly Vestments: The ceremonial garb of Solonor's clergy consists of suits of silvered chain mail-elven chain mail, if available-with silver cloaks and leaf green hoods. The holy symbol of the faith is either an oversized arrowhead at least three inches in length embossed on both faces with Solonor's symbol, a silver medallion embossed with the head of a stag, or three feathers attached to a leather disk hung from a leather cord. Adventuring Garb: The silver cloaks with green hoods are exchanged outside of ceremonial occasions for leaf green hooded cloaks and leather boots (or elven cloaks and boots, if available). Solonor's followers favor bows of any sort (except crossbows), daggers, knives, and long swords, spears. Elven bows are particularly prized, as are magical bows and arrows, bracers of archery, and quivers of Ehlonna (known as quivers of Mielikki or as quivers of Solonor in the Realms). Most members of Solonor's priesthood wear leather armor, studded leather armor, or silenced elven chain mail. (The last is detailed in the entry for Erevan Ilesere under the heading Adventuring Garb.) During their years of experience, elves have found that often archers are attacked without much chance to defend themselves. They have therefore created the elven bow (either a long bow, short bow, or composite long or short bow), designed to fire with the same rate and accuracy of a normal bow of its type, and yet the elves can use it to fend off attacks until they can defend themselves with a better weapon or spell. The elven bow is a beautiful piece of work, carved mostly from wood, highly decorated and polished, with substantial metal inlays. These inlays enable the bow to be used as a parrying weapon until the elf can draw a more suitable weapon. Meanwhile, the elf's bow is not damaged by the attack and can be used again. If used as an offensive weapon, the elven bow acts as a club, causing 1d6 points of damage to S- or M-sized creatures, 1d3 to L-sized or larger creatures. Elven bows weigh 8 pounds and typically cost 150 gp. Specialty Priests Rangers REQUIREMENTS: Strength 13, Dexterity 13, Constitution 14, Wisdom 14 PRIME REQ.: Strength, Dexterity, Wisdom ALIGNMENT: NG, CG WEAPONS: Any ARMOR: Any (penalties to some special abilities accrue if wearing heavier armor than studded leather) MINOR SPHERES: Animal, combat, plant, travelers MAGICAL ITEMS: Same as rangers REQ. PROFS: Long, short, or composite bow (including elven bows); animal lore, set snares, survival (woodland) BONUS PROFS: Bowyer/fletcher, hunting, tracking, weapon specialization in long or short bow All of Solonor's specialty priests are rangers. Their abilities and restrictions, aside from the changes noted above and later in this section, are summarized in the discussion of elven priests in "Appendix 1: Demihuman Priests" and detailed in full in the Player's Handbook. • Rangers dedicated to Solonor must be elves or half-elves. While most rangers in Solonor's service are green elves or moon elves, elves and half-elves of every subrace are called to be specialty priests of Solonor's clergy. • Rangers in Solonor's service, whether they are elves or halfelves, are allowed to multiclass as cleric/rangers. • Rangers in Solonor's service may select any available weapon specialization or group proficiency in the long, short, or composite bow (including elven bows). For example, if the weapon mastery rules given in PLAYER'S OPTION: Combat & Tactics are permitted in the campaign, Solonor's ranger clergy are permitted to become weapon masters in the long, short, or composite bow (including elven bows), but not crossbows or other types of bows. Solonoran Spells Keen Eye (Pr 2; Alteration) Sphere: Combat Range: 0 Components: V,S,M Duration: 1 round/level (3 shots maximum) Casting Time: 5 Area of Effect: The caster Saving Throw: None Also known as bull's eye, this spell assists the recipient in making called shots with a missile weapon. While gifted with a keen eye, all called shots are made without the normal -4 attack penalty, and the recipient does not suffer the normal +1 penalty to initiative. This spell provides no bonuses to missile attacks that are not called shots or to attacks of any sort made with melee weapons. Also, it does not provide a bonus of any sort if the normal penalties assessed for attempting a called shot are mitigated by other factors. The material components of this spell are the priest's holy symbol and a hawk feather. Archer's Redoubt (Pr 3; Evocation) Sphere: Protection Range: 0 Components: V,S,M Duration: 5 rounds/level Casting Time: 6 Area of Effect: Special Saving Throw: None When this spell is cast, an invisible barrier, pierced only by a narrow arrow slit, comes into being and totally encompasses the caster. This shield provides the equivalent protection of AC 2 against all frontal attacks and AC 0 against all other attacks. The barrier also adds a +1 bonus to the priest's saving throws. It is not possible to move an archer's redoubt, and voluntarily exiting its confines ends the spell effect immediately. However, the placemen of the arrow slit can move as mentally directed by the caster. Although it is not possible to effectively employ a melee weapon or hurled weapon while within an archer's redoubt, it is possible to fire a crossbow or any sort of bow without hindrance. The material component of this spell is the priest's holy symbol. Everfull Quiver (Pr 3; Alteration) Sphere: Combat Range: Touch Components: V,S,M Duration: 1 round/level Casting Time: 6 Area of Effect: One quiver and two arrows Saving Throw: None This spell enchants a quiver that contains at least two arrows. In every round thereafter, the caster can withdraw up to two arrows per round without depleting the total number of arrows found within the quiver. If more than two arrows are ever withdrawn in 1 round, the spell effect ends immediately, and only the first two arrows withdrawn do not deplete the real supply. If anyone aside from the caster attempts to withdraw an arrow from an endless quiver, the spell effect ends immediately as well. The caster can withdraw any type of arrow that was found within the overfull quiver when the spell was cast. Thus, if the priest casts endless quiver on a quiver containing one flight arrow, one sheaf arrow, and one silver arrow, he could then withdraw two silver arrows, one silver arrow and one flight arrow, etc., per round. No arrow drawn from an endless quiver while the spell effect lasts is ever magical, even if the one or more arrows in the endless quiver are magical. An arrow drawn from an endless quiver fades into nothingness in two rounds. The material components of this spell are the priest's holy symbol, a quiver, and two or more arrows, none of which are consumed in the casting. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 12] Author : Eclipse Lutgehr Date : 02-11-07 01:25 PM Thread Title : Re: Some extra eyes please... Well damn, Thank you Arcanda. I wasn't expecting that much footwork from anyone. I was just planning on pointing the DM to the right book and page. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 13] Author : Arcanda Date : 02-11-07 01:57 PM Thread Title : Re: Some extra eyes please... Well damn, Thank you Arcanda. I wasn't expecting that much footwork from anyone. I was just planning on pointing the DM to the right book and page. You're welcome, Eclipse! If you want some book reference, try these: Monster Mytology (TSR 2128) page 25 Demihuman Deities (TSR 9585) page 161 On Hallowed Ground (TSR 2623) page 99 (and on page 97 you find also a nice map/picture of Arvandor, with the Pale Tree (center of Solonor's domain in Arvandor). -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 14] Author : tndrsprttalon Date : 02-12-07 08:06 PM Thread Title : Re: Some extra eyes please... Sorry these are only names but this is from the Elves of Evermeet (9430) 2nd ed. pg. 108 under skinwalker priest in the barred section it says Skinwalkers must worship Rillifane Rallathil or one of the other wilderness oriented Seldarine deities such as Solonor Thelandira or Erevan Ilesere. Also in the same book pg 54 paragraph 11 Rillifane Rallathil is referred to as the leaflord master of woodland realms hope this helps I know its meager -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 15] Author : Extempus Date : 02-14-07 04:43 AM Thread Title : Re: Some extra eyes please... I can't attest to that, however, I have found something that seems to be an index listing of the gods in that book, and Solonor is on that.It's in my copy, I looked it up... however, it doesn't have everything that Arcanda listed!!! -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Downloaded from Wizards Community (http://forums.gleemax.com) at 05-10-08 08:21 AM.