* * * Wizards Community Thread * * * -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Thread : Need help finding a magic item? Started at 05-29-07 04:05 PM by Lord_Gema Visit at http://forums.gleemax.com/showthread.php?t=855860 -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 1] Author : Lord_Gema Date : 05-29-07 04:05 PM Thread Title : Need help finding a magic item? It is a contract that you sign and if you violate it your body is destroyed your soul is destroyed and you lose your blood points to the person you signed the the contract to and it's effects can't be dispelled and they work in a antimagic areas too. The DM says it's a official item in the books but I never seen or heard of it. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 2] Author : longlivelavey Date : 05-29-07 05:51 PM Thread Title : Re: Need help finding a magic item? It is a contract that you sign and if you violate it your body is destroyed your soul is destroyed and you lose your blood points to the person you signed the the contract to and it's effects can't be dispelled and they work in a antimagic areas too. The DM says it's a official item in the books but I never seen or heard of it. "blood points"? I've been playing this game since 1983, and I don't think I've ever heard of that term or this type of item? If it does exist in the overall game (by being an official item in the books), and isn't proprietary to your DM's campaign, this item must be some sort of artifact because it's way too powerful to be a common magic item. Is this item in a 1st, 2nd, or 3rd edition campaign? longlivelavey -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 3] Author : Lord_Gema Date : 05-29-07 06:26 PM Thread Title : Re: Need help finding a magic item? Blood points 2nd birthright -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 4] Author : longlivelavey Date : 05-29-07 08:57 PM Thread Title : Re: Need help finding a magic item? Blood points 2nd birthright Since I've never played the Birthright campaign, I guess this shows where my ignorance lies. Sorry I couldn't be of any help. longlivelavey -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 5] Author : Fulnitus Date : 05-30-07 07:04 AM Thread Title : Re: Need help finding a magic item? Sounds like a tweaked (read: buffed) version of the contract of Nepthas to me. You can find the contract in the Tome of Magic, it is on the list of "acceptable" Birthright items as detailed on page 85 of the Birthright Book of Magecraft. (normally contract breach would involve being struck blind, deaf and dumb...) I find it highly doubtful that the rather blunt contract you describe would be an 'official' item. I agree with linglivelavey that this item should be considered a minor artifact at the least... Sounds like one of the most efficient methods of blood theft ever. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 6] Author : Lord_Gema Date : 05-30-07 08:05 AM Thread Title : Re: Need help finding a magic item? That's what I thought but since most of a books are at are current DM's house I couldn't check it out. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 7] Author : longlivelavey Date : 05-30-07 01:14 PM Thread Title : Re: Need help finding a magic item? most of a books are at are current DM's house I couldn't check it out. Maybe this can help you then: From page 135 of the 2nd Edition Tome of Magic (thank you Fulnitus for locating it) Contracts of Nepthas These magical contracts are written in black ink on golden-brown vellum. The contracts are usually found in ivory tubes, each tube containing 1d6 contracts. The contracts are blank and can be filled in by the user. The contracts will radiate magic if detected, but carry no overt signs of their special nature. The contract of Nepthas automatically places an enchantment upon any persons who sign it in order to insure that both parties hold to the agreement. Anyone who has signed a contract of Nepthas and breaks the contract is struck deaf, blind, and dumb. The effects of the punishment last until they are removed with a remove curse. A person who is both deaf and blind suffers a -8 penalty to his attack rolls, and his opponents gain a +8 bonus to their attack rolls. He loses all bonuses for Dexterity and suffers -2 penalties to saving throws versus spells, petrification/ polymorph, and rod, staff, or wand. A contract involves two parties agreeing on a set of conditions. The conditions are usually very specific, but if they are not, they might be perverted in the same way that a wish spell might be misinterpreted. If a group of adventurer’s signs a contract with a king stating that they will slay a dragon in the Northern Hills by the eve of the new moon, slaying any dragon will fulfill the contract, although the king may have had a specific dragon in mind. If the king agrees to pay the adventurers upon the completion of the task, the king had better have the money when the party returns. Contracts signed by persons under the influence of charm and similar spells are null and void. A forged contract is also void. If any person who signs a contract dies before its completion, that person's obligation is ended. Note, however, that if a group of adventurer’s signs a contract and one of their members dies, the survivors are still bound to the contract. A deadline for both parties' responsibilities must be stated in the contract in order for it to be activated. longlivelavey -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 8] Author : atlarman Date : 06-04-07 05:00 AM Thread Title : Re: Need help finding a magic item? Sounds like a tweaked (read: buffed) version of the contract of Nepthas to me. You can find the contract in the Tome of Magic, it is on the list of "acceptable" Birthright items as detailed on page 85 of the Birthright Book of Magecraft. (normally contract breach would involve being struck blind, deaf and dumb...) I find it highly doubtful that the rather blunt contract you describe would be an 'official' item. I agree with linglivelavey that this item should be considered a minor artifact at the least... Sounds like one of the most efficient methods of blood theft ever. what page in tome of magic is this contract on? has 2b pact magic right? -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 9] Author : atlarman Date : 06-04-07 05:03 AM Thread Title : Re: Need help finding a magic item? never minder i thought u meant the current Tome of Magic -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- [Post 10] Author : Fulnitus Date : 06-05-07 03:49 AM Thread Title : Re: Need help finding a magic item? Didn't even know there was a 'current' one :D It's all about the living and learning thing I guess. -=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Downloaded from Wizards Community (http://forums.gleemax.com) at 05-10-08 08:21 AM.