Planes of Regression

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#1

da_fuzzy_black_cat_dup

Jun 30, 2003 11:02:25
Is there, or has anyone created, a plane where time flows backwards (possibly a specific area in an elemental plane of time)? I vaguley remember reading that time flows backwards on a layer of the Abyss, but the source did not go into much detail. Did anyone develop this further? I think a plane where time flows backwards, and characters become regressed to their childhood, or maybe even their infancy, could be just as deadly as the lower planes, and probably more fun.

Any information is appreciated. =)
#2

zombiegleemax

Jul 02, 2003 15:52:33
It is an intriguing concept. Sadly I have not heard much about one at all...

Developing one of your own shouldn't be too hard. You just need to weedout fators for abuse (players go and stay awhile and then back to thier normal plane rendering them nearly immortal)

And factoring how fast time flows in that plane...

I would be interested in sharing ideas on it with you...
#3

zombiegleemax

Jul 06, 2003 14:50:37
Well, while it's entirely possible to have a plane where time flows in the opposite direction, the most logical result (and supported by MoTP), is that the PC's are fully intergrated into the timestream. They won't notice any difference, the same way they don't when they go to a plane with a faster or slower timestream.

The kicker is when they leave the plane and discover that they've travelled backwards in time, perhaps decades before they were born. To prevent flagrant time travel, perhaps make the timesteam ratio random compared with "reality" on other planes. I'd also institute a "no paradox" ruling that states, while the PC's might have free will, whatever they do that would create a paradox doesn't.

For instance, if they go out to kill your super badguy as a child, they can do it and if they travel forward in time he's till dead but it doesn't change anything else that happened. So if the bad guy killed a PC before, he's still dead killed by the bad guy. It might make no sense but your arguement is that space-time is beyond mortal (and perhaps godlike) comprehension.
#4

Ace32

Jul 28, 2003 18:13:30
I was always of the idea that in such a situation, a person traveling back in time to 'un-do' something (like a PC death at the hands of X villain), then you succeeded in destroying that villain and everything he did is erased. However, somebody else has risen to take his place, fulfilling his role in the timeline, and yes, all the events are still as they were (PC is still dead, this time at the hands of Y villain).
#5

zombiegleemax

Jul 28, 2003 21:00:03
The real problem would be that if you killed that villain as a child, he would never have done any of the evil things that he did. As a result, your character never would've known of him and would not have travelled back in time to kill him as a child. He therefore lives to commit his evil acts which results in the PC going back in time to kill him, ad infinitum.

That's the paradox that I believe Lucio is trying to avoid.
#6

zombiegleemax

Jul 28, 2003 21:55:05
yes, but if you just happen to stumble onto a time-travel plane...
#7

da_fuzzy_black_cat_dup

Aug 04, 2003 6:33:44
(Sorry...first there was the ISP going BAD, then Scotland, then the computer blow-out...I would have replied sooner, but life got in the way.)

Heh...lots of ideas, although my original post didn't describe exactly the premise I wanted. Not a plane where the time-stream run backwards per se, just a plane where perhaps some entropy is reversed (No! Beloved Doomguard!). Anyway, people would age in reverse (and to the locals this would probably seem perfectly natural), rusty things would gradually become untainted, 'natural' occurences (rain, for example) would occur in reverse (rain would move from areas of lower gravitational potential energy to areas of higher gravitational potential energy, basically rising into the atmosphere.

Although that's mostly extras. The reverse aging is the main concpet. Although is that explained already somewhere?
#8

zombiegleemax

Aug 04, 2003 7:21:23
If time truly moved backwards, some random villainous person your PCs never met would suddenly rise up from the ground, pull a dagger out of the PCs back thus healing his wound up, head back to his castle, disband his infernal legions, dissmiss the hordes of demons, give tons of money to the peasants, decide to become a clumsier sword fighter . . . .

In essence, things would be most peculiar to the PCs. Doing charitible acts would be deemed as evil while doing evil acts in reverse would be good. Something to ponder . . .