Is the Barony of Langtree mentioned in any other published works besides Brothers in Arms? Also, the location of the Barony was never clearly stated in the novel. It is somewhere along the coast of the new sea, possibly in New Coast or Abanasinia.
I plan to have the Barony invaded by the Dragonarmies sometime before they reach Abanasinia. I feel that either Ariakas or some of his generals would have strong motives to go after the Baron and destroy his lands.
Also, were there Black, Green, or White Dragon Highlords? I don't remember seeing them mentioned in the books. I thought about using one of them in place of the Red and Blue dragons just to add a little flavor and because the main Dragonarmies are going to be busy chasing the Heroes around.
Thanks in advance
Originally posted by horseboy
Also, were there Black, Green, or White Dragon Highlords? I don't remember seeing them mentioned in the books. I thought about using one of them in place of the Red and Blue dragons just to add a little flavor and because the main Dragonarmies are going to be busy chasing the Heroes around.
There were indeed! The Black Highlord was Lucien, the Green Highlord was Salah-Khan (from Khur), and the White Highlord was Feal-thas, the dark elf who the heroes killed in Icewall. There's some controversy over who became the White Highlord after Feal-Thas, but in the modules at least it's Toede (who commands the White Dragonarmy at the climax of DL14).
Cheers,
Cam
Also, the location of the Barony was never clearly stated in the novel. It is somewhere along the coast of the new sea, possibly in New Coast or Abanasinia.
The exact line is:
...on an inlet of New Sea, far to the east of Solace.
and:
...in a secluded valley.
So, yeah, it's rather vague.
Originally posted by Cam Banks
There were indeed! The Black Highlord was Lucien, the Green Highlord was Salah-Khan (from Khur), and the White Highlord was Feal-thas, the dark elf who the heroes killed in Icewall. There's some controversy over who became the White Highlord after Feal-Thas, but in the modules at least it's Toede (who commands the White Dragonarmy at the climax of DL14).
Cheers,
Cam
Salah-Khan is also in the novels the second of the Black Wing commanders.
Uziel's site has the highlords pretty well covered:
http://www.dreadgazebo.com/astinus/highlords.html
Originally posted by jonesy
Salah-Khan is also in the novels the second of the Black Wing commanders.
I'm not sure he would have anything much to do with the Black Dragonarmy, given that Salah's history essentially involves him impressing the Green Dragonarmy Highlord when he and that army sweep into Khur.
If you left the Black army solely to Lucien, it would settle a lot of that mixed up swapping back and forth stuff.
Cheers,
Cam
Originally posted by Cam Banks
I'm not sure he would have anything much to do with the Black Dragonarmy, given that Salah's history essentially involves him impressing the Green Dragonarmy Highlord when he and that army sweep into Khur.
If you left the Black army solely to Lucien, it would settle a lot of that mixed up swapping back and forth stuff.
That would then completely contradict The Black Wing.
In Tobinian Canon (;)) the Librarian Asthetic (did I spell that right)...anyway...they were mis-informed. The new Highlord's name was Lucien, not Salah-Khan.
Sometimes it's just up to us to fix the careless mistakes of certain authors.
Sometimes it's just up to us to fix the careless mistakes of certain authors.
Sure, but I'd still go with the 'swapping the leadership' option. With the highlords dying constantly and some of them (like Toede) not being very good at their job, I could definitely see Ariakas swapping the larger Wings over to more competent leaders (at the time).
On a sidenote, was it ever mentioned what happened to Lucien and Salah Khan after the war?
But I'm not sure if it has ever "officially" been said.
Originally posted by jonesy
That would then completely contradict The Black Wing.
And that would be completely OK.
Cheers,
Cam
Originally posted by Cam Banks
And that would be completely OK.
Not by me. Sorry.
Originally posted by jonesy
Not by me. Sorry.
Aren't the Villains series of novels more or less on the lower rung of accepted canon, for the most part? There seem to be a lot of weird and difficult to resolve issues coming from them, such as the "druid of Paladine". Lord Toede's about the only one that stands out of the bunch.
Cheers,
Cam
Originally posted by Cam Banks
Aren't the Villains series of novels more or less on the lower rung of accepted canon, for the most part? There seem to be a lot of weird and difficult to resolve issues coming from them, such as the "druid of Paladine". Lord Toede's about the only one that stands out of the bunch.
Well let's see:
The Black Wing: the best single Dragonlance book I've read. Apart from Salah Khan, and Ariakas being mentioned as the Green Wing? commander, no real inconsistencies.
Before the Mask: there's the druid, but her powers aren't really explained so I have a hard time commenting her in any way. The book is fine.
TDQ: apart from the first chapter, which seems like it was from a completely different book altogether and actually makes it sound like a pretty good read (the reason I bought it), it's pure bat guano.
Lord Toede: the only book to have me laughing out loud cover to cover. Stock full with stuff that could drive a canon-lawyer mad, but still one of the very best there are.
Emperor of Ansalon: sometimes boring, sometimes exciting, it's a decent read altogether, and apart from the wacky wacky sword I liked it (well there are the monks, but DLCS has them now, so they are fine).
Hederick the Theocrat: nope, sorry, I'm too busy tearing it apart to give any comments.
Red - Verminaard
Blue - Kitiara
Green - Salah-Khan
Black - Lucien
White - Feal-Thas
Is there an approximate date when the switch occured? Did it happen in The Black Wing? Or did it happen later in the middle of Chronicles?
Also does anyone know where the Black/Green dragonarmies were based during Chronicles? I'm leaning towards using the Black because their acid breath seems much more dramatic for attacking villages than huge clouds of posion gas. ;P
Thanks to everyone who responded.
Is there an approximate date when the switch occured? Did it happen in The Black Wing? Or did it happen later in the middle of Chronicles?
If one were to try and insert accurate times, it would just make a mess of things. The largest inconsistencies are due to the gaming material and the novels disregarding each other at times in regards to the highlords activities.
Also does anyone know where the Black/Green dragonarmies were based during Chronicles? I'm leaning towards using the Black because their acid breath seems much more dramatic for attacking villages than huge clouds of posion gas. ;P
If I were the DM, I'd just disregard everything said about them, and choose the options that make most sense to my campaign.
Having said that, I believe that the Black operated mostly in the eastern Ansalon area, while the Green was a backup unit that was sent to any locations that needed reinforcement at the time (green dragons being the selfish critters that they are, I'd guess with rather poor success).