DL Contest in GT mag

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#1

zombiegleemax

Aug 05, 2003 11:33:34
More information here:

http://www.gamingreport.com/article.php?sid=9563&mode=thread&order=0
#2

brimstone

Aug 05, 2003 12:14:47
All very simple questions...except for number 4.

Isn't number 4 kind of subjective?
#3

talinthas

Aug 05, 2003 12:23:40
well, technically, the hest and lucanesti arent 'dark elves'...
#4

Granakrs

Aug 05, 2003 12:31:45
4) True or False. In addition to the surface dwelling Elves and the aquatic Elves, Krynn is also home to a race of underground dwelling Dark Elves.

mmm...... The Hest were technically renegades to the Silvanesti order. and the hest went underground.

Hmmmmm. But are the Hest officially dark elves in the krynnish sense? Were they officially cast out of silvanesti society? In my opinion, no. When they had their schism, the Silvanesti tried to hunt them down, to bring them to justice, and then cast them out as dark elves. But The Hesti fled before they were actually captured.
#5

shugi

Aug 05, 2003 13:01:01
While we're on the "technicallies" - I think the truth is that Krynn "was" home to such a race.
#6

brimstone

Aug 05, 2003 13:14:24
Originally posted by Eidolon
While we're on the "technicallies" - I think the truth is that Krynn "was" home to such a race.

You talking about the Spelljamming Drow?

Of course there are the "dark elves" of Otherlands. I can't remember what they were called...but those specifically were called "dark elves" were they not?

Or was that "dark sea elves"....?
#7

talinthas

Aug 05, 2003 13:42:27
dark sea elves, though they looked more like negative images (white skin, black hair...)
#8

zombiegleemax

Aug 05, 2003 22:11:56
This is sad, I don't know the answer to the first question. Guess I'll find the answer when Amazon finally sends me my Age of Mortals and DLCS.
#9

Dragonhelm

Aug 05, 2003 22:43:20
Originally posted by Mucknuggle
This is sad, I don't know the answer to the first question. Guess I'll find the answer when Amazon finally sends me my Age of Mortals and DLCS.

Just so that people are aware as to what the first question is...

1) In Dragonlance, the Queen of Darkness is known as Takhisis. By what name is she called in traditional D&D campaigns?

You're not going to see the name mentioned in the DLCS or Age of Mortals, as this name is never used in Dragonlance.

That name is Tiamat. Tiamat is the basis for Takhisis, much as Bahamut is the basis for Paladine. Some people say they are one and the same, others claim they are different.

Tiamat has appeared in numerous D&D products, and I believe was most recently seen in the 3e version of Deities and Demigods and Manual of the Planes. She is a dragon deity in the Forgotten Realms, although she is a lesser god there, IIRC.

Tiamat is probably most famous in Throne of Bloodstone. The premise is that you have to stop Orcus by stealing his wand (from his home in the Abyss), then you destroy it by placing it in the heart of Tiamat (who resides in the first level of Hell). Note: The Abyss that Orcus is in is not the same as Dragonlance's Abyss. This adventures is for levels 18-100.

Anyway, sorry to go off on that tangent. Tiamat has always been one of my favorite villains. She's just super-cool in DL.
#10

cam_banks

Aug 06, 2003 7:49:25
Originally posted by Dragonhelm
Tiamat is probably most famous in Throne of Bloodstone. The premise is that you have to stop Orcus by stealing his wand (from his home in the Abyss), then you destroy it by placing it in the heart of Tiamat (who resides in the first level of Hell). Note: The Abyss that Orcus is in is not the same as Dragonlance's Abyss. This adventures is for levels 18-100.

Shame on you, Dragonhelm! Tiamat is most famous to those of our generation for being the constant nemesis of Venger on the Dungeons and Dragons cartoon!

Apart from that, given that she (as the Chromatic Dragon) and Bahamut (as the Platinum Dragon) have been D&D icons since the 1st edition Monster Manual, I think she's a heck of a lot more recognizable to grognards like myself than to newer gamers. Throne of Bloodstone was just one of her notable appearances.

Cheers,
Cam, older than he looks
#11

Los_Grak

Aug 06, 2003 7:50:23
I don't think question 5 is all that hard. I believe it would actually take less gold pieces to make a pound than it would steel pieces. Therefore, the steel would be worth more. Besides that, 1 steel piece is worth 5 gold pieces in DL.

Of course, one would also have to assume that gold and steel pieces are all minted the same size and shape throughout Ansalon. That's the only x-factor here.
#12

brimstone

Aug 06, 2003 9:55:01
Originally posted by Cam Banks
Shame on you, Dragonhelm! Tiamat is most famous to those of our generation for being the constant nemesis of Venger on the Dungeons and Dragons cartoon!

Wait a minute...I thought Tiamat was the three headed evil dragon in all the Final Fantasy games... ;)

Or was Tiamat an ancient creation goddess of Babylon...oh wait, that was Omoroca...or was it Tiamat? Oh I'm so confused...

Okay...I admit, Cam's answer was much better than mine. :D
#13

darkjedi26

Aug 06, 2003 10:04:59
Anyone know the answer to number 3?
#14

brimstone

Aug 06, 2003 10:07:22
Originally posted by DarkJedi26
Anyone know the answer to number 3?

SAGA
#15

jonesy

Aug 06, 2003 10:11:00
Contest is open to continental U.S. and adjacent Canadian residents only.

Bleh.
#16

darkjedi26

Aug 06, 2003 10:13:22
Originally posted by Brimstone
SAGA

Whats Saga?
#17

brimstone

Aug 06, 2003 10:25:22
Originally posted by DarkJedi26
Whats Saga?

SAGA was a card game developed by TSR/WotC (can't remember if it was pre-sale or not). It was a new role-playing game...that I'm sure got it's inspiration from the fact that Magic: The Gathering was so emmensly popular then.

Essentially, what you do is have a certain number of cards in your hand (depending on your number of "Quests," ie. "Levels"). And instead of rolling dice, you could place cards into a discard deck as your roll. And, depending on your Race and Role (ie. Class) you were allowed to play Trumps during certain actions. A Trump being basically you could place more cards (force a higher "roll") for more difficult actions...or just mundane actions that your character is relatively good at.

Personally, I found it to be an excellent system. A lot of fun, and without the stigma of the name "Dungeons and Dragons" associated with it...I convinced my "too cool" friends to give it a try. heh heh It was alot more free form than AD&D was. And it focused much more on the story and on role-playing than the more number-crunching, fighting-based AD&D. Which I thought was more suitable to Dragonlance, anyway.

Anyway...SAGA holds a very special place in my heart, and it always will, even though I think on the whole, it was not well received as the creators would have liked in the DL world.

p.s. SAGA was also the system used for the short lived Marvel RPG as well.
#18

darkjedi26

Aug 06, 2003 10:30:35
was it any better than Spellfire? That was a pretty bad card game. Nice art though....Didnt' they make a Dragonlance expansoin for that?
#19

brimstone

Aug 06, 2003 10:36:53
Originally posted by DarkJedi26
was it any better than Spellfire? That was a pretty bad card game. Nice art though....Didnt' they make a Dragonlance expansoin for that?

Yes they did, I never played it.

But you've got to understand that...I guess it's a misnomer to call it a card game. It wasn't a card game...it was a RPG like D&D, only it used cards instead of dice. That's the simplest of explaining it.

So it would have been absolutely nothing like Spellfire or Magic: The Gathering, or Pokemon...none of that.
#20

Dragonhelm

Aug 06, 2003 10:43:01
Originally posted by Brimstone
Wait a minute...I thought Tiamat was the three headed evil dragon in all the Final Fantasy games... ;)

Or was Tiamat an ancient creation goddess of Babylon...oh wait, that was Omoroca...or was it Tiamat? Oh I'm so confused...

Okay...I admit, Cam's answer was much better than mine. :D

I was thinking of solely RPGs, but Tiamat is, indeed, most famous in the old D&D cartoon. I absolutely loved her there.

Tiamat was also a god in Babylonian mythology, and is seen in Final Fantasy. I'm sure she's in a ton of other sources, although the 5-headed chromatic dragon is my favorite interpretation of her.
#21

zombiegleemax

Aug 06, 2003 14:50:43
In regards to the debate concerning the dark elves of Krynn, I don't believe that the Hest were considered 'dark elves' in the Krynnish sense of being renegades. However, in one of the Chronicles ( I believe Autumn Twilight), there is a part where the heroes meet up with a banshee and the banshee is described as an undead creature of a long-dead race of dark elves. I cannot recall if the term 'drow' was used or not. I'll check.
#22

zombiegleemax

Aug 06, 2003 15:05:40
That damned Dark Elves question is a pain in the ass. I was tempted to type a lengthy explanation on why the answer could go either way. In the end I just put false because I would assume they are going for the "DragonLance has no Drow" theme; although that is debatable as well, which I mentioned above.