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#1

zombiegleemax

Aug 08, 2003 20:40:59
I was planning on leveling up a halfling preserver/psion towards avangeonship, then summoning him into the mists of Ravenloft right after his first succesful transformation.

would this move stunt his ability to advance towards avangeonhood or would there be no stunting of his advancement, still have not factored in how the corrupted land will react to a good natured person attempting to use it as a battery for good purposes.
#2

mahungee

Aug 08, 2003 21:41:31
perhaps you could him have to make power checks (they still have them in RL im assuming ;)) whenever he tries to asccess the energies of RL. I'm thinking something like the conversion that elementals experience (but drawn out) since presever magic draws from the life of the plane and all life in RL is a bit taitned,,,and perhaps a very diffuclt check for each progressive conversion to a more advanced form,,,if he fails then you could halt his asscesion till he can purify himself (lots of good deads,,amybe take out a domain lord)
#3

star_gazer_02

Aug 12, 2003 1:28:40
In answer to your sig line Mahungee

if E = M x C^2

then

1/M = C^2 / E

which is re-written as:

M = E / C^2

So yes, the two are equivalent. That's one of the beautiful things about Einstien's equations, it shows how energy and mass are equal. It's a variation on the energy formula from classical physics, where the energy imparted to an impacted body is equal to the impacting body's mass times it's velocity squared.

E = M x V^2

which is why you don't want to get hit by the super-fast Saftey in football, but rather the big, heavy Center... velocity is squared... mass isn't.

Basically, if you get hit by a mass moving at the speed of light (not possible, but this is what the equations mean), all of its' mass gets turned into energy. In a strange way, Einstien's equations are the limit of the energy contained w/in a body. They're beautiful because it turns out, in one of the greatest cosmic jokes ever, that the measure of energy in a body is dependant upon the most basic of fundamental constants, C, when it seems like C has nothing to do with either energy or mass. In fact, w/o C, the universe would not exist at all... without a speed limit on light, neither mass nor energy would exist! C turns out to be the important part of the equation, not the mass or the energy! It's things like that that make me love physics.

ok, you may now go back to your regularly schedualed topic....
#4

zombiegleemax

Aug 12, 2003 2:06:05



Now try applying the zero-point model to that premise and see what happens.
#5

mahungee

Aug 13, 2003 10:33:32
Star Gazer your my own personal jesus christ,,

I asked that question about five minutes into my first day in year 12 physics and the teacher couldn't give me anything that even approached an answer,,,,cheers buddy

as you can see I've changed my sig to approximate your answer (in short form :D ) but now I really have to think of another one :sad: .

In the words of special edd (grank yankers) YAY:D


(P.S. I always thought that energy and mass had the type of realationship you discribed but could never be sure from my reading of physics books (which only seem to come in two falvours:: 1. very simple but with no real answers,,or 2. that require a special dictionary just to get past the foreward :D, and that make my philosophy texts look like gardening manuals, complexity wise)



anyway back to the poor avangeon stucko on the demplane of dread
#6

zombiegleemax

Aug 13, 2003 12:27:55
Originally posted by Star Gazer
M = E / C^2

So yes, the two are equivalent. That's one of the beautiful things about Einstien's equations, it shows how energy and mass are equal. It's a variation on the energy formula from classical physics, where the energy imparted to an impacted body is equal to the impacting body's mass times it's velocity squared.

E = M x V^2

But you can't forget that M in this case is the relative mass, not necesasrily the rest mass. So E = MC^2 is actually the total energy of the system, not just the energy within matter itself. :D

How off topic is that! ;)
#7

zombiegleemax

Aug 13, 2003 14:46:51
Originally posted by Quarion
But you can't forget that M in this case is the relative mass, not necesasrily the rest mass. So E = MC^2 is actually the total energy of the system, not just the energy within matter itself. :D

How off topic is that! ;)

E = MC^2 refers to the rest mass actually. The full equation is gamma * MC^2 but, in the mass's rest frame, gamma = 1. But we are really going off on a tangent.