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#1 zombiegleemax Sep 01, 2003 15:28:31	A Flame Lord of Sargonnas is his wrath incarnate and it shows. requirements Sargonnas as patron Must have Fire as a Domain Able to cast wall of fire Must posses the spell focus feat- envocation Must be of lawful alignment Abilities gains the bab and saves of a cleric gains 1 spell caster lvl/ Flame Lord lvl gained the Flame Lord's lvls stack towards the effectiveness of the Fire domain's granted power Looses the ability to cast non-fire domain spells but in exchange gains two fire domain spells castable/day rather than 1. lvl 1) may summon 1 fire mephit 1/day (maximum 1 mephit) lvl 2) fire resistance of 5 lvl 3) +2 to charisma. weapon becomes +2 lvl 4) resist fire 10 lvl 5) +2 intelligence, weapon becomes flamming +2 lvl 6) resist fire 20 lvl 7) healing flames feat, weapon becomes flamming +3 lvl 8) resist fire 30 lvl 9) +4 to dexterity, weapon becomes flamming and flamming burst +3 lvl 10) becomes a native outsider, immune to disease and fire effects, gains the greater spell focus-envocation, +2 on charisma checks when dealing with natives of the fire plane and followers of Sargonnas, +1 natural armor let me know what you think, this is my first run
#2 cam_banks Sep 01, 2003 15:57:37	You can't have "fire" as a spell focus. Evocation would work, however. The fire resistance levels you have are right off the scale. You might want to start at 10 and go up by 5 every other level. Otherwise, it's probably not a bad start. Cheers, Cam
#3 zombiegleemax Sep 01, 2003 16:15:55	Right, let me correct the spell focus. The reason that the fire resist is so high is because at lvl 10 of the PrC he becomes an elemental himself (which is immune to fire) but I can tweak them np.
#4 zombiegleemax Sep 01, 2003 20:34:32	A Flame Lord of Sargonnas is his wrath incarnate and it shows. requirements Sargonnas as patron Must have Fire as a Domain Able to cast wall of fire Must posses the spell focus feat- envocation Must be of lawful alignment Must have a base rank of 10 in both religion and knowledge of the planes Abilities gains the bab and saves of a cleric gains 1 spell caster lvl/ Flame Lord lvl gained the Flame Lord's lvls stack towards the effectiveness of the Fire domain's granted power Looses the ability to cast non-fire domain spells but in exchange gains two fire domain spells castable/day rather than 1. Able to bless items so that they are not affected by the flame ability of flame armor. Flame armor is a blssed set of armor (type is normally chosen by the player/DM but truthfully granted by Sargonnas) that flames upon command much like a flamming weapon. lvl 1) flame armor +2 (upon command flames cause d6 damage when touched), may summon 1 fire mephit 1/day (maximum 1 mephit) lvl 2) axe +2 with the flame quality lvl 3) flame armor +3 lvl 4) +2 to charisma, +2 to dexterity. lvl 5) flame armor +4 lvl 6) axe +2 with flame and flaming burst qualities lvl 7) Soul of Flames; Type changes to elemental (which makes the Flame Lord immune to disease, criticals, posions etc..), base movement increases by 10', gains all around vision (which makes the FL immune to flanking etc..), , flame armor +5 (upon command the armor provives 2d6 damage to any that touch the armor monks incl.) lvl 8) Healing Flame feat, also the Flame Lord no longer suffers any penalties due to aging and will not die of old age lvl 9) axe +3 with flame and flaming burst qualities lvl 10) +2 Dex, +2 cha bonus when dealing with natives of the elmental plane of fire and with devotees of Sargonnas, a further +10 bonus to base movement I like this version so plz let me know what you think.
#5 zombiegleemax Sep 01, 2003 20:49:31	What level is this class available as a PrC? Also it might be an idea to change 'able to cast wall of fire' to able to cast spell of level X (where X is the level of wall of fire) with a descriptor of fire. As I read the class above, I assume that I can be a 1st level cleric with the Fire Domain and then switch to Sorceror until I gain the requirements to gain the class then become a Flame Lord and gain +1 to my caster level (Sorceror) while gaining power in my now defunct cleric class domain (as it stacks) and additiionally gaining a second domain spell with no penalty (except losing my single non-fire domain spell) and increasing my hit die and BAB in the process as they increase from a Sorceror to a Cleric... Might want to clarify that a little ;) Arandur
#6 zombiegleemax Sep 01, 2003 22:33:34	To answer your question about lvl needed for this PrC the earliest that you could become a Flame Lord would be lvl 8 if all lvls were gained as a cleric. Lvl 7 cleric for lvl 4 divine spells and to meet the knowledge requirements then the 8th lvl would be the first Flame Lord lvl. Also the idea of getting domain spells without going up in clerical lvls isn't possible so I think you may have just read that wrong but I did change some of the wording,hehe. Plz take another look Im open all comments not just the ones that I want to hear. A Flame Lord of Sargonnas is his wrath incarnate and it shows. Flame Lord version ready? requirements Sargonnas as patron Must have Fire as a Domain Able to cast lvl 4 divine spells Must posses the spell focus feat- envocation Must be of lawful alignment Must have a base rank of 10 in both religion and knowledge of the planes Abilities gains the bab and saves of a cleric gains 1 clerical spell caster lvl/ Flame Lord lvl gained the Flame Lord's lvls stack towards the effectiveness of the Fire domain's granted power Looses the ability to cast non-fire domain spells but in exchange gains two fire domain spells castable/day rather than 1. Able to bless items so that they are not affected by the flame ability of flame armor. Flame armor is a blessed set of armor (type is normally chosen by the player/DM but truthfully granted by Sargonnas) that flames upon command much like a flamming weapon. Flame armor as stated is a true and easy sign to any of the followers of Sargonnas that the receiver has the direct eye of Sargonnas on him and that Sargonnas is pleased with what he sees. Upon reaching lvl 1 of Flame Lord the PC receives his armor in one of many ways. Some are gazing into their camp fires and they see a set of armor in the flames. When they reach out into the burning flames miraculously they are not burned. Not only are they not burned but they withdraw a flame colored set of armor highly adorned with the symbols of Sargonnas. While some Flame Lords deep in the hearts of a dungeon find a rock melt right before their eyes only to leave this blessed armor in its wake. The ways that a set of Flame armor are received are varied indeed much as the personnalities of the receivers are but it is always recevied in a truly miraculous way and is never simply found in a dungeon hoard. lvl 1) flame armor +2 (upon command flames cause d6 damage when touched), may summon 1 fire mephit 1/day (maximum 1 mephit) lvl 2) axe +2 with the flame quality lvl 3) flame armor +3 lvl 4) axe +2 with flaming burst quality. lvl 5) flame armor +4 lvl 6) axe +3 with flaming burst quality lvl 7) Soul of Flames; Type changes to elemental (which makes the Flame Lord immune to disease, criticals, posions etc..), base movement increases by 10', gains all around vision (which makes the FL immune to flanking etc..), , flame armor +5 (upon command the armor provives 2d6 damage to any that touch the armor monks incl.), A Flame Lord with a failed save vs. cold suffers double damage and half damage if he succeeds on his save. lvl 8) Healing Flame feat, also the Flame Lord no longer suffers any penalties due to aging and will not die of old age. The heat from the flame armor actually grants a fast heal of 1. lvl 9) axe +3 with flaming burst and might cleaving qualities lvl 10) +4 cha bonus when dealing with natives of the elmental plane of fire and with devotees of Sargonnas, a further +10 bonus to base movement, also receives the improved spell focus-envocation feat
#7 zombiegleemax Sep 01, 2003 22:40:27	Has some great ideas there. Personally , I don't recomend giving additional stat bonuses but I guess that depends on what type of feel the character is going for Just a thought but is this a prestige class for Sirrion or Sargonnas? Arandur
#8 zombiegleemax Sep 01, 2003 22:45:17	This is a PrC for the TRUE Lord of Fire! Sargonnas is the Vengeful/Purging side of Fire while Sirrion is the weak servant of fire as it pertains to passion. Well atleast this is what they taught me when they brain washed err I mean opened my mind to the truth at the Divine academy for Sargonnas. Oh, I did get rid of the stat bonuses. Im also going to add bluff as a class skill (to help out the smoothing of the truth that must be done from time to time,hehe).
#9 iltharanos Sep 02, 2003 1:04:43	Maybe I missed this, but how is the flame armor gained? You said it is granted by Sargonnas. Does the armor then magically appear before the prospective flame lord? Does he have to go on a quest to get it? Does he have to make it himself? Does an existing set of appropriate armor gain the qualities of flame armor? Is it created by Sargonnas' clergy and then distributed to those deemed worthy of the fiery one's pleasure?
#10 zombiegleemax Sep 02, 2003 8:47:10	Thats a good question. I'll add the answer in the Flame armor section.
#11 zombiegleemax Sep 02, 2003 19:00:09	Do you guys think that this PrC is ready for the game?