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#1 zombiegleemax Sep 05, 2003 22:00:07	I understand what Kiri-Joliths favored weapon is in human cultures but for the Minotaurs that worship him wouldn't it make sence that they would perceive him wielding a great sword. Since the Minotaurs favor two handed weapons due to their high strength I just think a Minotaur Cleric of the god of Justice would wield a two handed sword as his favored weapon. What do you folks think?
#2 zombiegleemax Sep 06, 2003 0:46:08	I think its reasonable to house-rule favored weapons of gods based on the cultural perceptions of the deities. However, I would say that maybe the two-handed sword is a reach. What about a great-axe, each side of the blade equal in size to represent the balanced scales of justice or you could use a two-handed hammer to represent the same concept? The former also lends itself to affiliation with Sargas, which might make sense in a way if the cleric believes that justice is a simply a more “right” expression of revenge. At the same time, the Minotaur’s seafaring culture might prompt them to take the standard longsword affliated with Kiri-Jolith and transform it into a cutlass—representing a ship’s captain as judge, jury, and executioner aboard his vessel. Cheers, Maglaurus
#3 sweetmeats Sep 06, 2003 7:17:05	The Minotaur racial weapon is the Clabbard, so if you saw it change for their view on Sargas, thats would it would probably be.
#4 zombiegleemax Sep 06, 2003 9:12:04	Where are the stats on the clabbard? Should I just use the clabbard stats that are in the 2nd edition boxed set?
#5 sweetmeats Sep 06, 2003 9:15:30	This is from the Nexus. Clabbard: This broad, six-foot-long sword is sized for minotaur warriors. Its cutting edge is backed by a serrated saw edge. A blood channel runs the length of the blade, making it easier to withdraw from an impaled foe. The saw edge can cut through leather and hide armours with ease and, in the hands of a master, can catch and break a foe's weapon (+1 enhancement bonus to attack a weapon). It is too large to wield without special training, even with two hands; thus, it is an exotic weapon. A minotaur may use a clabbard two-handed as a martial weapon. Clabbard 80 stl 2d6 19-20/x3 20 lb. Slashing.
#6 zombiegleemax Sep 06, 2003 9:17:30	sweet, this is almost the same as what was in the 2nd edition but tweaked up a bit. Very cool, thanks
#7 sweetmeats Sep 06, 2003 9:18:32	Glad I could help.
#8 zombiegleemax Sep 06, 2003 11:24:00	Grazie!!
#9 cam_banks Sep 06, 2003 16:11:40	Weapons, even exotic weapons, should probably not have both an enhanced threat range and a critical multiplier of more than x2. The clabbard delivers most of its damage through its weight and crushing blows, so I'd make it x3 and leave the threat range at 20, like a great axe. Cheers, Cam
#10 zombiegleemax Sep 06, 2003 18:17:42	I absolutley hate weapons with a threat range of 20,hehe. But i would certainly agree on a 19-20 x2
#11 zombiegleemax Sep 23, 2003 10:01:04	>I understand what Kiri-Jolith’s favored weapon is in human cultures but for the >Minotaurs that worship him wouldn't it make sense that they would perceive him >wielding a great sword. >Since the Minotaurs favor two handed weapons due to their high strength I just >think a Minotaur Cleric of the god of Justice would wield a two handed sword as his >favored weapon. >What do you folks think? I disagree, I find the two-bladed axe to be more in line with what a minotaur cleric of Kiri-Jolith would use. It just “feels” right. IMC, one of the PCs is a minotaur fighter who left his homeland when the clerics of Sargas found out that his family worshiped Kiri-Jolith. The PC can never return to his homeland on pain of immediate death for being a heretic! He uses the double bladed axe as his weapon, holds Kiri-Jolith as his god, and has vowed vengeance on the clerics of Sargas. George
#12 zombiegleemax Sep 23, 2003 10:23:54	Well I thought the weapon should be differant than that used by the followers of Sargas and a sword is a much more civilized weapon than an axe.
#13 zombiegleemax Sep 23, 2003 19:01:26	How is a sword more civilized than an axe ?
#14 zombiegleemax Sep 23, 2003 19:25:47	An axe has always represented a more barbaric way of combat. An axe is also a tool but a sword is made for one thing only, killing people. A sword is not used to chop wood or whatever else you care to do with an axe. Swords are ONLY martial weapons and nothing more. Why do you think they always show orcs and barbarians with axes while they show Knights and crusaders with long and great swords?
#15 zombiegleemax Sep 23, 2003 20:21:23	What the hell is an orc ? Hehe Maybe the orcs like chopping lumber ? And maybe the humans just like chopping each other ? Omg we had have it bacjwards all these years. Orcs are not barbaric and humans are =O
#16 dragontooth Sep 23, 2003 22:18:22	It all depends on the DM, and what he feels is right. To me if a God favored weapon is something, no matter what your race favored weapon is. his will always be what it is. You can weild other weapons if your proficent in it, if not stick with the god favored weapon.