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#1 zombiegleemax Sep 14, 2003 17:50:32	Is there going to be any official 3e planescape?
#2 Ryltar_Swordsong Sep 14, 2003 18:02:33	If by "official", you mean made by WotC, then no. But planewalker.com is the official website and 3e developer for Planescape 3e.
#3 zombiegleemax Sep 15, 2003 13:59:22	Really, I don't like WotC anymore. They just abandon all these great settings. How cheap.
#4 zombiegleemax Sep 20, 2003 22:50:27	Originally posted by Ryltar Swordsong If by "official", you mean made by WotC, then no. But planewalker.com is the official website and 3e developer for Planescape 3e. Will this be canon.MY understanding is that 3e may change some of the travel to other realms.Will you be able to still travel to say Toril in the Forgotten Realms or Greyhawk.Any answers would be appreciated.I would like to know for the record.
#5 Ryltar_Swordsong Sep 20, 2003 23:41:46	Originally posted by bronzedwarf Will this be canon.MY understanding is that 3e may change some of the travel to other realms.Will you be able to still travel to say Toril in the Forgotten Realms or Greyhawk.Any answers would be appreciated.I would like to know for the record. Well 3e Fr's cosmology is seriously f-ed up. As for if PS3e will be canon, I don't know. WotC will probably not recognize it as canon, but that should not detract from the work. Canon is useless to players. It is merely a way for the company to provide consistency between it's products.
#6 zombiegleemax Sep 21, 2003 11:53:46	Originally posted by Ryltar Swordsong Well 3e Fr's cosmology is seriously f-ed up. As for if PS3e will be canon, I don't know. WotC will probably not recognize it as canon, but that should not detract from the work. Canon is useless to players. It is merely a way for the company to provide consistency between it's products. Thank you for responding Ryltar. I am concerned that DMs of the FR will not allow travel to PS or other realms until it has been at least straightend out on the Great Wheel cosmology and even then some may look at it as a homebrew world if it isn't canon. I think the changes the team working on 3e should be excepted as canon. There is talk that you may not be able to use the Infinite Staircase in FR as well as portals.Please tell me this is a bad dream.
#7 sildatorak Sep 21, 2003 15:29:00	BronzeDwarf, it is a bad dream. If your DM says that the realms are nestled in a crystal sphere floating in the phlogiston between the astral and ethereal (and maybe opposite the ordinal, however unlikely that is) with the great wheel still intact and all 18 (or 26 or 27) inner planes still there touching each other, then it is. (I personally think 4 seperate elemental planes was the dumbest change in the cosmology.) On a mildly related note to my previous ramblings, I'm really glad that planewalker is the official site. The Mimir is so much better as a source of speculation, never should have been in charge of "facts". Grr...Stupid school, making Jon quit updating. Maybe their should be an "utter screed" column on Planewalker for random unlikely conspiracies that could be true. (You have noticed that there are 17 outer planes, 9 lords of baator, and the dark 8, right? Why 8? Do the math. One plane to rule them all and in the darkness bind them.)
#8 zombiegleemax Sep 21, 2003 15:41:09	Sildatorak,Thanks and yes it is a bad dream, a total nightmare. I know you have to accept change and go on but I am about fed up with it.3e may have a positive side but I don't know that the sacrifices are worth it.Then we have 3.5e before 3e is complete in some worlds.
#9 factol_rhys_dup Sep 21, 2003 17:24:09	ooh creepy. I didn't pick up on that, but you're right! Dark 8 + Lords of the 9 = 17 Outer Planes. Coincidence? I think not. I'll bet Asmodeus has his sights set personally on Mount Celestia. Piking Baatezu... That's just their style...
#10 clueless Sep 27, 2003 3:32:37	Originally posted by Sildatorak Maybe their should be an "utter screed" column on Planewalker for random unlikely conspiracies that could be true. Do you want one? No...seriously. Do you want one on Planewalker? I can give ya one. And that ain't screed. ;)
#11 factol_rhys_dup Sep 27, 2003 8:31:38	Actually that'd be pretty cool. The more outrageous, the better, but still with some basic grounding in actual information. That baatezu thing was great. It's the kind of thing that is really funny to read, but then when you think about it, it's actually kind of creepy how it could be true...
#12 zombiegleemax Sep 27, 2003 15:12:05	I vote wholeheartedly for an Utter Screed column. Heck, I'd love to write for it, if I can come up with some good screed.
#13 sildatorak Sep 29, 2003 14:52:08	Hurray for screed! Now I'll have even more things for my paranoid/delusional bleaker to be peery about! Of course she has a modicum of trust for Akin on the basis of some screed I thought up, but I've already done too much hijacking of this thread. I guess I'll start another one for now, because I'm in a crazy gossip kind of mood.
#14 zombiegleemax Oct 10, 2003 1:39:30	Originally posted by RhoxandRoll Really, I don't like WotC anymore. They just abandon all these great settings. How cheap. You mean you didn't predict it was all going to go down hill when TSR sold out to manufacturers of a TCG? And now Hasbro. I'm surprised there isn't a Tonka Drizzt Do'Urden yet. (can i get banned for saying that? )
#15 wyvern76 Oct 11, 2003 21:46:47	Originally posted by The Real Minion (can i get banned for saying that? ) Why, do you want to? The way I heard it (which is admittedly thirdhand), TSR was already going downhill on account of trying to juggle too many different games at once. If they hadn't "sold out" to WotC, they would have gone bankrupt. Whatever you may think of WotC, you can't blame them for what happened to TSR, because TSR brought that on themselves. And you can hardly fault them for not publishing settings that don't sell well enough to make a profit; they *are* a business, after all. In any case, most of those OOP settings are supported quite well by fans on the internet. Just look around. Wyvern
#16 clueless Oct 12, 2003 0:15:53	*cough* www.planewalker.com *cough*
#17 solomani Oct 21, 2003 7:13:15	I read a mail on a DnD list by the guy who origianlly took over TSR from WOTC (head of brand - Dungeon and Dragons, sorry name slips my mind). Anyway he said that nothing was abadoned without feedback from users. Planescape was dropped because players felt that due to the setting, in particular the language used, it was too difficult to understand, and therefore use. What a shame.
#18 kilamar Oct 21, 2003 8:10:13	There are reasons and there are REASONS Kilamar
#19 zombiegleemax Oct 26, 2003 23:32:30	i heard that there is a source book on Sigil that is going to be released. Also read the Manuel of the Planes.
#20 zombiegleemax Oct 27, 2003 1:30:40	i heard that there is a source book on Sigil that is going to be released. unless your refering to planewalker.com, no there isn't.
#21 zombiegleemax Oct 27, 2003 3:49:04	And there sure as hell better not be. You know why? Three words: Stats for the Lady The doesn't count.
#22 solomani Oct 27, 2003 6:27:09	Originally posted by Kilamar There are reasons and there are REASONS Kilamar And what are the REASONS ?
#23 sildatorak Oct 27, 2003 13:15:08	Originally posted by solomani And what are the REASONS ? I think Kilmar is saying the real reason can be explained simply by pressing four while holding shift.
#24 factol_rhys_dup Oct 27, 2003 14:01:20	*edit: Never mind.
#25 sildatorak Oct 27, 2003 14:28:25	Originally posted by Factol Rhys *edit: Never mind. Now that is what I call comedy!