Faction Test.

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#1

lord_of_the_ninth_02

Oct 16, 2003 20:20:46
Sadly I don't have a faction test to share, does anyone know where I could find one?

If not, I 'll try and make my own, hoefully with some help from the rest of you. But it seems odd that there wouldn't be one (what with all the Ability score calculators, "What D&D character are you?" and Alignment tests on the web).

Thanks.
#2

zombiegleemax

Oct 19, 2003 10:39:49
Unfortunately, I don't think Planescape got enough popularity to where people would make "What Faction Are You?" tests. You might try the Mimir...If anyone has it, it'd be them.
#3

zombiegleemax

Oct 19, 2003 12:01:43
Tests like the one your proposing are rather easy to make (although there are alot more factions/end results than what appear on most standard tests). Simply device several catagories and fit the factions into them. An example law, chaos, neutral catagory then split the factions into them based on levels on individuality treatment. Then when you devise a question, the answer coincides to what group the test taker favors. You need enough different catagories though to narrow it down to one faction by the end of the test.
#4

lord_of_the_ninth_02

Oct 19, 2003 13:04:38
You make it sound so very simple, and I have no idea what you are saying. Please, would you mind doing that and then posting it here? Thanks
#5

zombiegleemax

Oct 20, 2003 2:04:39
Errr . . okay.

Lets take the original factions. 15 right?

Split them into two groups. Group and Individual (kinda law and chaos, but not really as you'll see by the split). One works better with the group, one prizes individuality (and granted, this is debatable for several factions, but just as an example).
Group: Mercykillers, Harmonium, Fraternity of Order, Anarchist, Doomguard, Dustmen, Athar.
Individual: Xaositect, Transcendant Order, Sign of the One, Believers of the Source, Free League, Fated, Society of Sensation, Bleak Cabal.

Now, based on this, we have:

Question: Do you like to work with a group favoring teamwork and partnerships, or do you prefer to work by yourself going solo?

Repeat said proccess enough times, splitting the factions enough times into enough different groups, and then base the end equation on how many answers fit one specific faction. The 'catagory splits' for the factions need not be even and there can always be a few questions that can net a higher 'score' or rank in one faction or another; questions like "Do you sometimes feel like giving up and ending it all?" would give a few more points towards being a bleaker if answered yes while "Od ouy leef ekil stset era diputs?" might net a few more points for being a Xaositek.

It would still be a heck of alot of work to come up with enough catagorical breakdowns to narrow things down to one of fifteen. Most tests like this have at the most four or five possible outcomes and the questions have four or five choices, making it much simpler to come up with a defining result at the end. With fifteen outcomes, its still far too big an undertaking for me to think of and I've got a few other things on my plate at the momemt. But if someone else gets the inspiration, by all means.
#6

factol_rhys_dup

Oct 20, 2003 16:26:07
Yep, those group/individual faction assignments are certainly debatable, and I'm here to debate them. I'd have to put the Dustmen in "individual," since a given Dustie is mostly concerned with purging his own emotions to achieve True Death, most are do not try to help others along. I'd have to also argue that the Bleakers should go in "group," because they try to help people who are lost... or crazy.
#7

lord_of_the_ninth_02

Oct 20, 2003 21:02:33
I'm not so sure about the sensates being an indivual based faction. After all, what they want is for the sensates as a whole to have all the experiences in the multiverse, because they know as individuals it is impossible. It's the same for the guvners really, they just want to discover every rule in the multiverse and in doing so become all powerful. However, they know, better than any, that there is strength in numbers.


First I'd say take an alignment test. Then consider the following:

Harmonium [LG/LN]
Fraternity of Order [LN]
Mercykillers[LE/LN]
Xaositects[CN]
Fated[can't be LG]
Anarchists[tends twoards chaos and then evil]
Doomguard[tends towards evil and then chaos]

And I forget the other alignment tendencies.
#8

zombiegleemax

Oct 20, 2003 23:39:32
As I said, this was simply an example, not a means of opening a can of worms about the faction debate issue. The factions were merely dumped quickly to show back up points. Nothing more.
#9

sildatorak

Oct 21, 2003 0:48:11
Originally posted by Lord of the Ninth
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First I'd say take an alignment test. Then consider the following:

Harmonium [LG/LN]
Fraternity of Order [LN]
Mercykillers[LE/LN]
Xaositects[CN]
Fated[can't be LG]
Anarchists[tends twoards chaos and then evil]
Doomguard[tends towards evil and then chaos]

And I forget the other alignment tendencies. [/b]

I don't think that the factions in general don't have tendancies toward particular alignments as much as they have tendancies away from alignments. Even among those you put up, I have disagreements. I'd say the anarchists don't tend toward evil and that the doomguard would probably tend to chaos before evil.

Those points aside I think that you don't really need a test to tell you what faction you are unless it is close between a couple. It might be easier to come up with 15 tests that are of the "Are you a Taker?" "Are you a Guvner?" format, about 10 questions or so that gives you a final score of your "fatedness" or what have you. I know that I would be a Godsman (yes, I know they're defunct now, but that wouldn't keep me from refusing to join the Mind's Eye and clinging to my Belief in the Source...after all, this is just another test), an Anarchist (and I'm neutral good :P), or a Bleaker. If I could take a test that would see how strongly my "this is a test" attitude stacks up against my "what's the bleeding point?" or "why are they greedily hording their power?" attitudes, that would make me know my faction more effectively.
#10

zombiegleemax

Oct 21, 2003 0:55:02
And now you see the subjectiveness of any such catagorical test. Its far easier to simply ask someone which they prefer and why I'm not much for the idea of making such a test since it would be based far too much on a single individual's interpretation of esoteric topics like good and evil as well as their own view of the various factions. Hop over to the "What's your favorite faction" thread instead
#11

gadodel

Oct 21, 2003 5:33:10
Yeah...I think it could be based on the Group vs Individual thingee. That would be the X axis. The Y axis would have to include qualities and traits based on the planes themselves and various deities...