Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 gforce99 Oct 23, 2003 6:44:50	*Urik, Nibeany and Gulg are doing what they did for years.... *Tyr is controled by a Council (democracy?) *Draj has a new psion-controled king (according to athas.org) But what of Raam and Balic ? Are they just anarchists dream now? PS Did Dregoth toast Raam and Balic become a merchant paradise?
#2 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 23, 2003 9:33:38	*Draj has a new psion-controled king (according to athas.org) That's not just according to athas.org, it's according to the Wanderer's Chronicle.
#3 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 23, 2003 9:36:03	Are they just anarchists dream now? Hardly, if you have read the Wanderer's Chronicle, and have a clue about what anarchy as a political ideology represents (and no, not the misuse of the word 'anarchy' fronted in the media). If anything, Raam is an ochlarchy, and Balic a plutarchy.
#4 gforce99 Oct 23, 2003 9:39:17	Jon....your way over my head. So could you explain how Raam is a ochlarchy & Balic a plutarchy? Didn't Dregoth destroy Raam?
#5 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 23, 2003 9:47:55	Jon....your way over my head. Comes with the oracle job description. ;) The Greek rooted word for mob rule is ochlarchy. Raam is ruled by the mob, or actually, various mobs are fighting for territory. Plutarchy, or plutocracy, is defined as "the rule of wealth". Balic is split in three sectors, each ruled by a merchant house.
#6 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 23, 2003 9:50:24	Didn't Dregoth destroy Raam? No, not yet in any case.
#7 gforce99 Oct 23, 2003 10:01:31	Ok thanks for basically repeating what I said in more descriptive terms. That must come from being an oracle too. LOL And where the heck did I read about Dregoth and his dray destroying Raam...must search.... Wasn't Raam already a mob-scene when Abelech-Re was alive?
#8 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 23, 2003 11:53:30	But what of Raam and Balic ? Are they just anarchists dream now? PS Did Dregoth toast Raam and Balic become a merchant paradise? --- Ok thanks for basically repeating what I said in more descriptive terms. You asked questions, I provided answers. You did not seem to understand the answers. It is *I* that repeated what *I* said in more descriptive terms, i.e. elaborated on the terms 'ochlarchy' and 'plutarchy'. ;)
#9 zombiegleemax Oct 23, 2003 13:41:04	Can you feel the love? Anyhow, officially Raam still stands. It was the intention of the unreleased Dergoth Ascending adventure to have Raam get sacked (based on speculation, conjecture, and rumor). Since this product was never released officially, and since Athas.org has yet to convert and release it *cough, hurry up, cough*, it hasn't happened. Officially, Dergoth still plots in his cave with the rest of the Tablelands none the wiser.
#10 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 23, 2003 13:46:44	*uses jolting pole on Mach* YOU hurry up. :D
#11 gforce99 Oct 23, 2003 13:46:51	Ok thanks Mach and Jon
#12 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 23, 2003 14:48:58	Can you feel the love? Which part of Athas did you not understand in the description "Oracle of Athas"? I'm supposed to be meaner than the other oracles. Everything on Athas is, except the freaking dolphins. To be frank, I was very disappointed when I saw that the Athasian dolphins were lawful good. I mean, they should be vicious, lawful evil scheming telepathic "dolphins über alles" mentality creatures, preferably with all kinds of nasty psychic probes and attacks, and maybe even some sharp pointy teeth. *makes gesture akin to that of Tim, the Enchanter from Monty Python's Knights of the Round Table.*
#13 nytcrawlr Oct 23, 2003 17:10:50	Damn I miss the boards... Jon points out clueless bastard's cluelessness. Cluless bastard points at Jon and throws sarcasm. Jon is unamused by sarcasm and makes clueless bastard look even more clueless. Enter Mach with wit. I LOVE IT! /me sheds a tear
#14 nytcrawlr Oct 23, 2003 17:13:12	Geez Jon, first the damn hamsters now the dolphins, what's next?! Radioactive, raging Tari from the Underdark?! /me hides from Mach
#15 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 23, 2003 17:17:06	Damn I miss the boards... And people call *me* evil? Now, that Nyte, was --way-- out of line. Apologize to GFORCE99 immediately. I mean... "bastard"... even implying he's got elven blood in his veins. That's pretty low... *shakes head in disgust* EDIT: I hope everyone sees the joke in this. To prove there are no racist tendencies in this, I am half fin/half norwegian, and I game with a half norwegian/half maroccan.
#16 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 23, 2003 17:19:09	Geez Jon, first the damn hamsters now the dolphins, what's next?! You really haven't been keeping up to speed. The latest fad is Athasian Modrons. :D
#17 nytcrawlr Oct 23, 2003 17:21:57	Modrons?! Argh! Must be a Green Age thing then since Athas is metal poor now, hehe.
#18 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 23, 2003 17:23:58	Definitely artifact status. We're taking bets on whether it will kick the Obsidian Man of Urik's tail or vice versa.
#19 nytcrawlr Oct 23, 2003 17:26:41	Well if you use my conversion they shouldn't, hehe. Course, that probably needs to be on the list of what I need to send to you guys, doh.
#20 zombiegleemax Oct 23, 2003 23:04:10	Radioactive, raging Tari from the Underdark OMG! That's absolutely brilliant! I love it *scribbles some notes* . . . YOU hurry up. Err . . . okay, you got me there. I am still trying. Which part of Athas did you not understand in the description "Oracle of Athas"? Oh! Of Athas. I get it know, makes more sense than what I thought this whole time was the Oracle of Aflack. I mean, why would Ben need his own Oracle and all. And here I just thought you were Pearl Harbor/Armageddon fanboy or something (Much apologies to GEFORCE for destroying your thread)
#21 nytcrawlr Oct 23, 2003 23:12:24	Oracle of AFLACK!!!! As in the car insurance Aflack. Ben Afleck is spelled Afleck hehe. (I think)
#22 zombiegleemax Oct 23, 2003 23:22:53	You said it, not me (although I thought it, I just couldn't do it).
#23 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 24, 2003 3:13:12	*makes notes* Remember to include a pair of retarded kanks called Mach and Nyte in next DS adventure. */end notes*
#24 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 24, 2003 3:14:39	Now, GFORCE99, any other questions?
#25 gforce99 Oct 24, 2003 6:09:27	Yeah, do you guys date much?:D You really need to get out more (especially NytCrawlr, geez man its just a game, no need to be so rude, I am not THAT clueless). To be honest, besides hamsters and illegitimate sons of dogs, thank you Mach and Jon for the answers. Are there any other websites out there focusing on some of the lesser known cities (I saw a Balic one once....) later!
#26 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 24, 2003 12:39:13	Yeah, do you guys date much? By far too much.
#27 zombiegleemax Oct 24, 2003 12:39:47	There was a website devoted to Urik and another for Nibenay, neither of which I can find. Best bet is to check the Silt Skimmer's extensive links page. If its out there, he's got it. Link-o-Rama
#28 nytcrawlr Oct 24, 2003 14:17:48	Originally posted by GFORCE99 Yeah, do you guys date much?:D Yeah, Jon is a sexy bald Norwegian. And Mach, well we just have phone sex...haven't met yet. You really need to get out more (especially NytCrawlr, geez man its just a game, no need to be so rude, I am not THAT clueless). Simmer down, simmer down, geez, tis just a joke man. Take it as one. :P
#29 nytcrawlr Oct 24, 2003 14:18:59	Originally posted by Mach2.5 There was a website devoted to Urik and another for Nibenay, neither of which I can find. Best bet is to check the Silt Skimmer's extensive links page. If its out there, he's got it. Link-o-Rama Yeah, Grummore, the silly frog, is da man! :D
#30 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 24, 2003 14:24:55	Are you high on egg rolls? Who gave him egg rolls?!
#31 Grummore Oct 24, 2003 14:32:43	Hey oh! RROOOOAAARRR Dont force me to be brutal and ... oh hehehe hum ah oh Well, hum... Thanks for the compliment. :D
#32 nytcrawlr Oct 24, 2003 14:38:24	Mmmmm, eggrolls!
#33 gforce99 Oct 24, 2003 14:47:43	Excellent list Grummore. Thank you (and the rest of you guys) for posting such great material over the years. I know I seem combative, but its nice to talk/debate Dark Sun. ...even if its with you guys (j/k).
#34 gforce99 Oct 24, 2003 14:48:52	BTW, arent you retired NytCrawlr? Glad that didn't work out for you. hehe
#35 nytcrawlr Oct 24, 2003 15:06:29	Actually I am, but it's just with Athas.org, I still enjoy reading what you guys talk about when it comes to Athas and still enjoy running it. I just don't have the time to run one since I am running an Epic FR campaign right now, and looking for players that would enjoy DS more anyways.
#36 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 25, 2003 3:58:36	I know I seem combative, but its nice to talk/debate Dark Sun. ...even if its with you guys (j/k). You don't come across as particularly combative. In fact, I haven't seen a discussion like those of the last days since the good old days on the mailing lists, or when Brax was active on the message boards. Nostalgia
#37 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Oct 25, 2003 10:28:09	Smithers, release the Dolphins.
#38 zombiegleemax Oct 27, 2003 13:45:11	Originally posted by Jon, Oracle of Athas You really haven't been keeping up to speed. The latest fad is Athasian Modrons. :D Already stripped naked by devious elf scavengers. Last time seen it was fled towards the Hinterlands... :D
#39 zombiegleemax Oct 27, 2003 13:48:03	Originally posted by NytCrawlr Yeah, Jon is a sexy bald Norwegian. And Mach, well we just have phone sex...haven't met yet. Phone sex is bad... The holes are too little... :D :D :heehee
#40 gforce99 Oct 27, 2003 14:12:47	I guess my posts are extremely tempting targets for Hamsters and Dolphins.... oh well
#41 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 27, 2003 17:01:19	Wonder how long this takes before a moderator actually steps in...
#42 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Oct 27, 2003 22:13:45	Originally posted by GFORCE99 I guess my posts are extremely tempting targets for Hamsters and Dolphins.... oh well Could be worse: Imagine the grand Athasian invasion of the Tribbles!
#43 jon_oracle_of_athas Oct 28, 2003 1:46:24	Not to mention the dreaded Penguins of Flibble