I'm talking about getting a new Feature started by the WotC staff (or maybe Erik Mona) that would come out once or twice a month.
Like these ideas...
Greyhawk Gatherings - well known locales that draw adventures to them. Lost tomb, wayside inns, famous settlements, etc.
Personalities of the Flanaess - interesting Greyhawk NPCs for your PCs to encounter. Will they be friend or foe?
Current Affairs - What's new in the political powderkeg of the Flanaess. Who is secretly aligning with the Brotherhood? Which 'royals' are getting married across the Flanaess and why? Is it politics or true love?
Regional Dispatches - Want to known what is going on in the Gnarly Forest or who is having his or her five minutes of fame in Greyhawk City? What is the Scarlet Brotherhood up to and who do they have their sights on next.
That sort of thing.
Cheers!
Robert B.
Originally posted by cwslyclgh
those would be great... if somewhat unlikly...
True, but it's nice to dream. ;)
BTW, has anyone else been over to the Living Greyhawk homepage recently?
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=lg/welcome
They have new web articles there. (Ok, there NOT that new but still.)
The first new article is called Patience, Planning, and Prestige...
"Prestige classes take some planning, but the payoff is worth the price. Throughout June, we featured those hard to reach prestige classes from the early Living Greyhawk Journals. Now brace yourself for the complete list of descriptions and requirements for all the prestige classes available in the Living Greyhawk campaign. You've paid your dues; it's time to collect."
After that is Out-of-Game Benefit Rules...
"new Living Greyhawk rules addendum governing in-game benefits derived from out-of-game sources is now available. These rules effect the Bonus Buttons distributed at the Gen Con Game Fair 2002 and the Campaign Cards from the D&D Player Rewards."
And finally, D&D v.3.5 Conversion Guidelines...
"The document for converting Living Greyhawk characters to D&D v.3.5 from 3rd edition is now available. As of October 1st, 2003 all Living Greyhawk characters must be fully compliant with the core rule v.3.5. All events run on or after October 1st will use D&D v.3.5."
The first one is a handy guide for helping decide which Prestige Classes are more appropriate for anyone's Greyhawk campaign, IMO.
Cheers!
KF
Publishing it on the web is even simpler. If we could "canonise" a site, so that articles published on it are official greyhawk content, I would be as happy as Larry.
It is the content I want most. Good idea.
Originally posted by Morphious
I started an earlier thread suggesting that maybe living greyhawk journal material could be published in pdf as a way of doing it on the cheap.
Publishing it on the web is even simpler. If we could "canonise" a site, so that articles published on it are official greyhawk content, I would be as happy as Larry.
It is the content I want most. Good idea.
Yep, I read that thread. It's a good idea and Wizards wouldn't have to pay as much to make such a product, I'm assuming.
Unless of course you only want material done by the "pros", in which case, good luck.
Originally posted by chatdemon
This is exactly the kind of material we offer over at www.canonfire.com
Unless of course you only want material done by the "pros", in which case, good luck.
Of course I want Greyhawk material done by the "pros". That's why they are the "pros".
Don't get me wrong, I love Canonfire! and am eagerly awaiting the release of the next Oerth Journal.
It just I'd like all of Erik's hard work and determination, not to mention everyone else involved past and present, towards bringing Greyhawk back to the top where it belongs not go unfulfilled. After all, wasn't the Oerth Journal originally meant to be more then just a Greyhawk fan e-zine? wasn't it a statement to TSR/WotC that Greyhawk is alive and its fans will not give up the fight.
We will not surrender Greyhawk to obscurity or to being made into a generic world slipped into the core rulebooks. The campaign setting deserves better than that, IMO.
Regards,
Robert B.
If you don't already get it, I strongly suggest checking out Dungeon Magazine, starting with about issue #105. In addition to including the "Living Greyhawk Journal," I'm doing my best to actually support the "Greyhawk as core" idea that's been floating around, largely unrealized, for the last few years. I think you'll like what we're doing.
Because running Dungeon is such a big job, I don't have a lot of time to do things like web articles right now. I echo Rich's suggestion of Canonfire. There's really a lot of good stuff there, even if it lacks the "official" imprimitur (which, you'll recall, can be found on "Puppets" and "Gargoyle" and the "joke" Castle Greyhawk). ;)
There are wheels within wheels going on at present. Keep your eyes peeled for interesting future developments.
--Erik Mona
Maybe we should kidnap Erik from Super Unicorn, so he has more time for Greyhawk :P
I'll let you know what Charles says.
Mike
Originally posted by Erik Mona
If you don't already get it, I strongly suggest checking out Dungeon Magazine, starting with about issue #105. In addition to including the "Living Greyhawk Journal," I'm doing my best to actually support the "Greyhawk as core" idea that's been floating around, largely unrealized, for the last few years. I think you'll like what we're doing.
For instance, I've noticed that adventures in Dungeon that say they're for any campaign tend to include Greyhawk-specific details. As another example, there's the Warduke Critical Threat with a background tied to the Horned Society. So far, I do like it! Thanks! And keep it coming!
Originally posted by Knightfall
Of course I want Greyhawk material done by the "pros". That's why they are the "pros".
Lol, I can't wait to tell Gary you think he's a pro :D
Do you come to the Greytalk chats at all? I don't recall seeing a Knightfall there...
Originally posted by Knightfall
Don't get me wrong, I love Canonfire! and am eagerly awaiting the release of the next Oerth Journal.
CF is definitely a mish-mash that you have to sift through to find the needle, however I would remind you that many of today's GH writers had their start in the OJ and have contributed to CF. Erik, Gary, Allan, Fred just to name a few. I think even Broadhurst did something in one of the OJ's, although I can't remember for sure.
Do not underestimate the skill of amatuer writers. They are the tomorrow, today
Originally posted by Erik Mona
I'm doing my best to actually support the "Greyhawk as core" idea that's been floating around, largely unrealized, for the last few years.
Does that mean I can bypass the query and simply send you the manuscript for my absolutely brilliant Greyhawk adventure that I (briefly) discussed with you a couple of weeks ago?
Had to try :D
Originally posted by Delglath
Lol, I can't wait to tell Gary you think he's a pro :D
Ok, which Gary are you referring to? THE Gary?
Do you come to the Greytalk chats at all? I don't recall seeing a Knightfall there...
Nope. Never done that. Too many RL concerns and other D&D/d20 message boards to browse right now. Maybe someday.
CF is definitely a mish-mash that you have to sift through to find the needle, however I would remind you that many of today's GH writers had their start in the OJ and have contributed to CF. Erik, Gary, Allan, Fred just to name a few. I think even Broadhurst did something in one of the OJ's, although I can't remember for sure.
True. It's a great place to learn the Greyhawk trade. I really like some of what I've read there. And the new OJ should be a great addition to my Greyhawk library. Most "pros" have to start somewhere. And you have to realize the difference between a Greyhawk "pro" and, say, a Forgotten Realms "pro". Would you want Ed Greenwood writing the next canon sourcebook for Greyhawk? Nothing against Ed, but no I wouldn't.
Do not underestimate the skill of amatuer writers. They are the tomorrow, today
Umm, I am an amatuer writer and many of my friends are amatuer writers as well, so I would never underestimate my peers. However, eventually an amatuer writer crosses in to the realm of being a "pro".
Case in point, I've known Darrin Drader for many years online and he'd be the first to say that for a long time he was really an amatuer writer. However, know he has design credits with three different RPG companies including Wizards. He has now become a "semi-pro" writer/game designer with the work he's done on Book of Exalted Deeds.
As for me I have design credits with two d20 companies, Dark Portal Games and Silverthorne Games. But I still consider myself a amatuer because I don't have a "major" release with a "major" d20 company, although Silverthorne Games is a company to keep your eyes on.
Now you see what I mean when I say "pro".
Originally posted by Erik Mona
If you don't already get it, I strongly suggest checking out Dungeon Magazine, starting with about issue #105. In addition to including the "Living Greyhawk Journal," I'm doing my best to actually support the "Greyhawk as core" idea that's been floating around, largely unrealized, for the last few years. I think you'll like what we're doing.
Yes, I've been real pleased with the recent Living Greyhawk Journal entires. Thanks for all your hard work Erik.
Because running Dungeon is such a big job, I don't have a lot of time to do things like web articles right now. I echo Rich's suggestion of Canonfire. There's really a lot of good stuff there, even if it lacks the "official" imprimitur (which, you'll recall, can be found on "Puppets" and "Gargoyle" and the "joke" Castle Greyhawk). ;)
True. I guess I just want more Greyhawk then is possible right now. And I liked the joke Castle Greyhawk. It was funny. :D
There are wheels within wheels going on at present. Keep your eyes peeled for interesting future developments.
Hmm..., 30th Anniversary of the D&D game coming up next year and Erik is telling us to keep our eyes peeled for future developments. Hmm... could it be?
:D
"Hi. I'd like to write an article about goblin priests. It will include a prestige class and six new feats. I'm thinking it will be 4,000 words long."
Whereas a Dungeon "query" (adventure proposal) can run a handful of pages, as it includes a LOT more information.
Queries for the LGJ or Polyhedron don't require any obnoxious paperwork. Send those to [email]polyhedron@paizo.com[/email].
--Erik
PS> I have a credit in "Book of Exalted Deeds," too. Does that make me a pro? ;)
Originally posted by Erik Mona
PS> I have a credit in "Book of Exalted Deeds," too. Does that make me a pro? ;)
You were a "pro" long before that Erik and you know it. ;)
Your the Sage of Greyhawk, IMO. Gygax is the Grandfather of Greyhawk, of course. Hmm, this would be a cool thread...
Heh.
Knightfall
Originally posted by Erik Mona
--Erik
PS> I have a credit in "Book of Exalted Deeds," too. Does that make me a pro? ;)
You were a pro long before that Erik. I think it started with that $20 and the SafeHouse in Milwaukee.
on another note. Starting in 2004 (cuz it takes a while to get a ball this big rolling) there will be weekly LG articles on the RPGA website. Each week another themed article will hit (5 topics rotating weekly). Some will deal with specific LG rulings while others will be Greyhawk specifc material (done up my Creighton Broadhurst and his lackies - who have done several of the recent LGJ articles). So while they are slanted towards the LG campaign there should be some good bits to use in your own home campaigns.
Originally posted by Wavester
You were a pro long before that Erik. I think it started with that $20 and the SafeHouse in Milwaukee.
That was him?
Originally posted by Wavester
Some will deal with specific LG rulings while others will be Greyhawk specifc material (done up my Creighton Broadhurst and his lackies - who have done several of the recent LGJ articles).
Is this an in-house only thing or can others contribute? I'm guessing this is a volunteer gig with no pay, right?
This is great news, and unexpected! Though I'm not a player (or big fan, to be honest) of the LG campaign itself (I've never been big on organized play typegaming, I much prefer the weekly game with my friends to an occasional event with strangers, but tastes vary), but as you said, the campaign produces a lot of material that is useful to a DM running his own Greyhawk homegame.
If you want some help in promoting these features when it gets closer to their launch, let me know, we can use Canonfire announcements to alert the Greyhawk fans who don't follow the LG related discussion lists and forums to the updates.
Thanks for the info, look forward to seeing this feature in a few months.
David those are very good news indeed - I shall then avoid to send a web petition in order to have LGJ removed fron Dungeon and put on web.
Pierre Couture
aka Armenfrast
aka Belvor_x (on Greytalk)