Pronounce Flanaess

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#1

Greyson

Oct 28, 2003 11:41:51
I have wondered for years what the correct pronunciation for the Flanaess is.

We pronounce it FLUH-ness. But, we also say Flan, with the "a" as in bat or land.

Then, over the weekend I heard a kid say FLAHN-eese, "eese" as in geese.
#2

cwslyclgh

Oct 28, 2003 12:10:53
I generaly say FLAN-ess or FLAN-ase depending on who in my campaign is talking.
#3

zombiegleemax

Oct 28, 2003 14:41:01
I usually say FLAN-ay-ess

the -ay sounds like the letter a and the -ess like the letter s except they are kinda rolled into each other.
#4

zombiegleemax

Oct 28, 2003 14:49:16
FLAY-Ness
#5

zombiegleemax

Oct 29, 2003 5:32:46
Players Guide to Greyhawk page 5 Pronunciation:

Flanaess -> flah NES
Flannae -> flah NYE
#6

gadodel

Oct 29, 2003 5:46:33
Drow rhymes with Cow

Lich rhymes with Like

Orc rhymes with Dork

Elf rhymes with Shelf

:D

Flanaess rhymes with Dan Ace

etc
#7

zombiegleemax

Oct 29, 2003 11:09:47
Morphious ends the Flaness debate

Drow rhymes with Row

Lich rhymes with rich

at least you got orc and elf right
#8

zombiegleemax

Oct 29, 2003 11:18:14
Can't say for sure with lich, but everything else Gadodel says is how Gygax pronounces them, not that Gygax is given too much respect around here. No particular pronounciation can be considered wrong, but if you are interested in how the individual who created them intended them to be pronounced, then Gadodel is spot on.
Scott
#9

zombiegleemax

Oct 29, 2003 19:28:44
Originally posted by ScottyG
Can't say for sure with lich, but everything else Gadodel says is how Gygax pronounces them, not that Gygax is given too much respect around here. No particular pronounciation can be considered wrong, but if you are interested in how the individual who created them intended them to be pronounced, then Gadodel is spot on.
Scott

I wouldn't say he is disrespected here, more that he isn't given absolute and utter, infallible and fervent, blind and obedient devotion like he is on other boards.

I mean, really... next you'll be saying he invented the wheel...

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=lich

Originally posted by rostoff
Drow rhymes with Row

Originally posted by Gadodel
Lich rhymes with Like

You know, y'all should really think about how adamant you want to be about those pronounciations. I mean... think about it, really think about it...

"Oh my god, it's a LICK!"

"You turn the bend and run into a band of... DRO!"

Bleh.
#10

zombiegleemax

Oct 29, 2003 19:31:23
Oh, and just for the record, I also refuse to throw my players up against a tarrask. In my games, it's the legendary TarraSKEW!
#11

zombiegleemax

Oct 30, 2003 1:54:07
Originally posted by Delglath


"Oh my god, it's a LICK!"

"You turn the bend and run into a band of... DRO!"

Bleh.

LOL

[ insert purile humour here -> ]

...and the most dangerous of all foes ... the arch-lickers....

Chuckle. Snort. Tee-hee.
#12

zombiegleemax

Oct 30, 2003 3:03:39
Originally posted by Morphious
LOL

[ insert purile humour here -> ]

...and the most dangerous of all foes ... the arch-lickers....

Chuckle. Snort. Tee-hee.

Don't forget the dreaded demi-licks :D
#13

gadodel

Oct 30, 2003 5:19:21
Oh come on, everyone knows that Licks are as scary as the Boogerman...

:D
#14

zombiegleemax

Oct 30, 2003 16:14:59
Originally posted by Gadodel
Lich rhymes with Like

Which rich lich stitches britches to bewitch?
Or eye twitch?
Or jock itch?
Or light switch?
Or high pitch?

Lich... lich... lich...
#15

extempus

Feb 14, 2006 4:40:10
Drow rhymes with Cow

Lich rhymes with Like

Orc rhymes with Dork

Elf rhymes with Shelf

:D

Flanaess rhymes with Dan Ace

etc

I pronounce them all the same way... dunno about the last one though, lol...

Actually, I've always pronounced Flanaess "Flah-NEESE" and Flannae "FLAN-ay."
#16

zombiegleemax

Jul 25, 2006 11:43:58
I believe it to be a case that depends upon the perspective of which it is or will be used.

Some things to consider...

Author's Intended Dialect:
  • English phonology is the study of the phonology (ie the sound system) of the English language. Like all languages, spoken English has wide variation in its pronunciation both diachronically and synchronically from dialect to dialect. Which race upon Oerik was the name derived from? What is their native dialect and what can be gleaned from researching the intended or proposed etymology?
Initial-stress-derived Noun:
  • Initial-stress-derivation is a phonological process in English, wherein verbs become nouns or adjectives when the stress is moved to the first syllable from a later one -- usually, but not always, the second. This is gradually becoming more standardized in some English dialects, but is not present in all, and the list of affected words differs from area to area. Perhaps 100 verb-noun (or adjective) pairs exist in total. Some examples are:
[INDENT]conflict
  • as a verb, "I hope that won't conFLICT in any way."
  • as a noun, "There will be no CONflict."
record
  • as a verb, "Remember to reCORD the show!".
  • as a noun, "I'll keep a RECord of that request."
permit
  • as a verb, "I won't perMIT that."
  • as a noun, "We already got a PERmit."
[/INDENT]Spelling Variant:
  • Roughly, the more common a word the more likely that the change from flat /æ/ to broad /ah/ took place. It also looks as if monosyllables were more likely to change than polysyllables.
The æ-tensing:
  • æ-tensing is a phenomenon found in many varieties of American English by which the vowel /æ/ has a longer, higher, and usually diphthongal pronunciation in some environments, usually to something like [ei]. In some American accents, /æ/ and /ea/ are apparently now separate phonemes
Letters Originating As Ligatures:[list][*]The form
#17

ripvanwormer

Jul 25, 2006 15:16:42
...the aformentioned being my debate and reasoning for Geoff being a hard ‘G’ instead of the normal soft ‘G’.
  • Geoff - (Gee-OFF)

"Jeff." As in Geoffrey.

...I had a friend in high school who spelled his name Geoff. The Grand Duchy was 'his.'
#18

zombiegleemax

Jul 25, 2006 15:58:25
"Jeff." As in Geoffrey.

...I had a friend in high school who spelled his name Geoff. The Grand Duchy was 'his.'

Agreed, ..."Geoff" in general is commonly pronouced as "Jeff" by some. However, my conjecture is based upon the exceptions to the general rule for soft G versus hard G. It merely provids the debate, (and my preference), as to how, and or why it could legitimately, (by both grammer and phonetics), be pronounced as (Gee-OFF).

Whether it's usage would be for an alternative racial or regional dialect, flavor or rather something unique or perhaps eccentric is up to the individual DM.
#19

zombiegleemax

Aug 07, 2006 21:07:47
I always used "flan-ace."