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#1 zombiegleemax Oct 28, 2003 14:46:08	In a follow up to the Flanaess thread, how about Suloise? I always used to say Sool-waaars (-waaars kinda sounding like the letter R) but then heard Mialee on the Scourge of worlds DVD things say Sool-oo-ees. Not that it matters, just curious
#2 zombiegleemax Oct 28, 2003 14:50:42	(window) Cill-O-weese (geese)
#3 cwslyclgh Oct 28, 2003 15:02:07	I pronounce it sul-OY-ss
#4 Greyson Oct 28, 2003 15:21:12	Well, what we need is an official pronunciation guide for Greyhawk! Around our table, we say it almost like Mialee - we say Sool-oyse, like "Oi, mate!". But we can adapt Mialee's pronunciation... Lenard Lakofka wrote in the Oerth Journal #1 that the word Suel comes from the Suloise words "Se-Ul," meaning People of Ul. But then Suel is spelled S-U-E-L, switching the U and E. Is the transposing of the U and E a mistake, or is the SUEL spelling just a function of Suloise syntax and transliteration? It's one of those tiny, insignificant Greyhawk things that I always wonder about. Maybe a pronunciation project should be commissioned.
#5 zombiegleemax Oct 28, 2003 15:30:03	Originally posted by abysslin (window) Cill-O-weese (geese) What he said.
#6 zombiegleemax Oct 28, 2003 16:46:35	SOOL-O-WEESE rhymes w/ tool-O-geese
#7 Halberkill Oct 28, 2003 17:03:55	Actually there was a pronunciation guide for Greyhawk in an old dragon magazine. Cwslyclgh's and Mialee's pronunciation are both correct. Len Lakofka only helped with writing the history of the suloise. Steve Wilson was the author, and he put a whole bunch a crap from his personal campaign in it. The se-ul was one of them. That statement was dropped in a later version of OJ1, as Steve realized he misspelled Suel. I am not fond of Steve Wilson. Halber
#8 zombiegleemax Oct 28, 2003 17:23:20	I'm sure there's a pronounciation guide in one of the books already... The Adventure Begins or the Player's Guide, IIRC. I can't be bothered looking but I'm positive that one exists somewhere.
#9 Greyson Oct 28, 2003 21:15:41	Okay, very nice. I think we got to the bottom of this one. I agree on the correct pronunciation. Thanks fellas. Regarding the OJ, it should have been Su-El, in the Wilson/Lakofka treatment. And the transliteration should be "People of Su". Is that right?
#10 zombiegleemax Oct 29, 2003 5:30:34	Players Guide to Greyhawk pg 5 Pronunciations: suloise -> soo loh WEEZ suel -> sool
#11 Lagrange_Baron_de_Banville Oct 29, 2003 6:55:03	I always pronounce it, like it's french (at least what I believe to be french): Soo lu warz
#12 zombiegleemax Oct 29, 2003 7:36:20	Originally posted by Morphious Players Guide to Greyhawk pg 5 Pronunciations: suloise -> soo loh WEEZ suel -> sool See? I was right! I love being right. I just hate going to all the bother to prove myself right all the time. Especially when I know other people will eventually do it for me :D
#13 Greyson Oct 29, 2003 10:12:25	Thanks, Lagrange. I need to get the Players Guide to Greyhawk.
#14 extempus Feb 14, 2006 4:29:16	I've always pronounced it "Sull-oh-eeze" and "Sue-el." But that's just me...
#15 Mortepierre Feb 14, 2006 5:49:50	I always pronounce it, like it's french (at least what I believe to be french): Soo lu warz Eh, trust me on that, that's not the way it sounds in french (but damned if I could find something similar in english, if only because "u" has a very different sound in the two languages) Regarding the OJ, it should have been Su-El, in the Wilson/Lakofka treatment. And the transliteration should be "People of Su". Is that right? .. which begs the question: did the Suel "breed" the infamous Su-Monster too?