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#1
zombiegleemax
Nov 04, 2003 21:22:44 Can someone please tell someone who isn't overly familiar with 2nd Edition Ravenloft about what is what?

Where did the different places come from (specificaly, what from where)? I mean, some stuff seems obvious, like a Red Wizard darklord from Forgotten Realms...

What places, gods, NPCs originally came from where?

Thanks!
#2
trebor_minntt
Nov 04, 2003 21:27:28 Soth came from Krynn.
Azalin came from Greyhawk.

This the kind of thing your after?
#3
scipio
Nov 04, 2003 22:17:04 Strahd came from Generic Material Plane 87*.

*Actual number may vary.
#4
keg_of_ale
Nov 04, 2003 22:26:03 Keep in mind that these worlds were part of the Darklords' backgrounds in 2E only. In 3E, Azalin is simply a lich who hails from a distant world. As a DM, you can say its the Flanaess, or you may not.

Anyways:

Vlad Drakov is from Krynn
Meredoth is from Mystara
Easan the Mad is from Oerth
Harkon Lucas, Von Kharkov and Draga Salt-Biter are from Toril
#5
zombiegleemax
Nov 05, 2003 0:06:39 The cult of the Morning Lord sprang up around a displaced priest of Lathander from FR. Read "Vampire of the Mists" for the full details.

the Church of the Lawgiver is based off of Bane. Note that clerics still got their spells when "Bane" was dead in FR so they may not be actually getting their power from their no matter what they believe.

Hala, Ezra & the Eternal Order are essentially homegrown.

Belenius is from the Celtic pantheon.

-Eric Gorman
#6
manindarkness
Nov 05, 2003 19:36:54
Originally posted by HvF

the Church of the Lawgiver is based off of Bane. Note that clerics still got their spells when "Bane" was dead in FR so they may not be actually getting their power from their no matter what they believe.
-Eric Gorman

¿Didn't they briefly lost their spells?
#7
zombiegleemax
Nov 06, 2003 9:24:41 Yes, briefly they did.

Mordent (and thus, Godefroy) came from an unnamed Prime Material world.

Jacqueline Renier and her clan are from the same world.

Dominic d'Honaire is from Mordent, his family apparently native.

The same for Alfred Timothy, werewolf lord of Verbrek.

Ivana Boritsi and Ivan Disilnya are both descended from the infamous family who entered the mists along with Strahd and Barovia.

I do believe Yango Petrovna, darklord of G'Henna is also of Barovian origins.
#8
zombiegleemax
Nov 06, 2003 10:52:35 I think he's more concerned with knowing who the outlander darklords are, as opposed to who the "native" darklords are.

Most of the "major" domains are ruled by someone not native to Ravenloft. Few domains in the Core have been dragged in with their lord. Barovia (obviously), Mordent (See I10: The House on Gryphon Hill), and Lamordia are the only ones I can think of right now without a book handy.
#9
zombiegleemax
Nov 17, 2003 21:32:49 Darklords

-Azalin of ?: Greyhawk (noble named Firan Zal'Honan from Great Kingdom of Aerdy)
-Draga Salt-Biter of ?: Forgotten Realms (additional info?)
-Easan the Mad of ?: Greyhawk (additional info?)
-Harkon Lucas of ?: Forgotten Realms (from Cormyr)
-Meredoth of ?: Mystara (additional info?)
-Soth (formerly) of Sithicus: DragonLance (former Knight of the Rose from Daragaard Keep, in Nightlund?)
-Vlad Drakov of ?: DragonLance (mercenary from Thenol, in Taladas)
-Von Kharkov of ?: Forgotten Realms (additional info?)

Domains

-Sithicus: Name of area (DragonLance?)

Religions

-Lawgiver: Bane (Forgotten Realms)
-Morninglord: Lathandar (Forgotten Realms)
#10
zombiegleemax
Nov 17, 2003 21:38:37 I'd like to get a little resource together for people like me interested in this.

I'd like to know stuff like:

Where a lord comes from, where the domain comes from (is based on), any setting specific stuff involved with them. Some of this is really easy stuff, but I don't have books in front of me.

If you knowledgeable people could fill in blanks, add more...
#11
manindarkness
Nov 17, 2003 21:39:20
Originally posted by Teabee
Darklords

-Azalin of ?: Greyhawk (additional info?)
-Draga Salt-Biter of ?: Forgotten Realms (additional info?)
-Easan the Mad of ?: Greyhawk (additional info?)
-Harkon Lucas of ?: Forgotten Realms (additional info?)
-Meredoth of ?: Mystara (additional info?)
-Soth (formerly) of Sithicus: DragonLance (former Knight of the Rose, from Daragaard Keep in ?)
-Vlad Drakov of ?: DragonLance (additional info?)
-Von Kharkov of ?: Forgotten Realms (additional info?)

Domains

-Sithicus: Name of area (DragonLance?)

Religions

-Lawgiver: Bane (Forgotten Realms)
-Morninglord: Lathandar (Forgotten Realms)

Azalin was a noble in the Great Kingdom of Aerdy.
Easan the Mad an elf in one forest bordering the Empire of Iuz (forgot name).
Harkon Lucas is from Cormyr.
Soth was from Nightlund (it was named differently when he was alive).
Vlad Drakov was mercenary from Thenol in Taladas.
#12
manindarkness
Nov 17, 2003 21:41:25 Azalin true name is Firan Zal'Honan.
#13
zombiegleemax
Nov 17, 2003 21:55:21
Easan the Mad an elf in one forest bordering the Empire of Iuz (forgot name).

What kind of elf? Is it the Vesve forrest?
#14
manindarkness
Nov 17, 2003 22:08:13 Domains are more difficult, as they resemble the darklord, not necessarily the land. Right now I can only recall that Meredoth's island, Todstein, was taken directly from Mystara; Vorostokov from Cerilia (Birthright) and Kalidnay from Athas (Dark Sun). But I think the city of Kalidnay still exists in Athas.
#15
zombiegleemax
Nov 17, 2003 22:26:13 Actually, Firan Zal'Honan was the Earl (later Azal'Lan, literally "wizard-king") of Knurl in the Bone Marches.

Chris Nichols
#16
Matthew_L._Martin
Nov 17, 2003 22:29:31
Originally posted by ManinDarkness
Domains are more difficult, as they resemble the darklord, not necessarily the land. Right now I can only recall that Meredoth's island, Todstein, was taken directly from Mystara; Vorostokov from Cerilia (Birthright) and Kalidnay from Athas (Dark Sun). But I think the city of Kalidnay still exists in Athas.

In some cases (ex: Forlorn), the domain is physically removed from the Material Plane. In others (ex: Barovia, Kalidnay), the people are removed and the landscape copied, but the original location remains on the MP.

Matthew L. Martin
#17
manindarkness
Nov 17, 2003 22:36:26
Originally posted by CNichols
Actually, Firan Zal'Honan was the Earl (later Azal'Lan, literally "wizard-king") of Knurl in the Bone Marches.

Chris Nichols

Well, the Bone Marches were part of Aerdy. Thanks Chris always wanted to know the exact title an place

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Nov 04, 2003 21:22:44	Can someone please tell someone who isn't overly familiar with 2nd Edition Ravenloft about what is what? Where did the different places come from (specificaly, what from where)? I mean, some stuff seems obvious, like a Red Wizard darklord from Forgotten Realms... What places, gods, NPCs originally came from where? Thanks!
#2 trebor_minntt Nov 04, 2003 21:27:28	Soth came from Krynn. Azalin came from Greyhawk. This the kind of thing your after?
#3 scipio Nov 04, 2003 22:17:04	Strahd came from Generic Material Plane 87. Actual number may vary.
#4 keg_of_ale Nov 04, 2003 22:26:03	Keep in mind that these worlds were part of the Darklords' backgrounds in 2E only. In 3E, Azalin is simply a lich who hails from a distant world. As a DM, you can say its the Flanaess, or you may not. Anyways: Vlad Drakov is from Krynn Meredoth is from Mystara Easan the Mad is from Oerth Harkon Lucas, Von Kharkov and Draga Salt-Biter are from Toril
#5 zombiegleemax Nov 05, 2003 0:06:39	The cult of the Morning Lord sprang up around a displaced priest of Lathander from FR. Read "Vampire of the Mists" for the full details. the Church of the Lawgiver is based off of Bane. Note that clerics still got their spells when "Bane" was dead in FR so they may not be actually getting their power from their no matter what they believe. Hala, Ezra & the Eternal Order are essentially homegrown. Belenius is from the Celtic pantheon. -Eric Gorman
#6 manindarkness Nov 05, 2003 19:36:54	Originally posted by HvF the Church of the Lawgiver is based off of Bane. Note that clerics still got their spells when "Bane" was dead in FR so they may not be actually getting their power from their no matter what they believe. -Eric Gorman ¿Didn't they briefly lost their spells?
#7 zombiegleemax Nov 06, 2003 9:24:41	Yes, briefly they did. Mordent (and thus, Godefroy) came from an unnamed Prime Material world. Jacqueline Renier and her clan are from the same world. Dominic d'Honaire is from Mordent, his family apparently native. The same for Alfred Timothy, werewolf lord of Verbrek. Ivana Boritsi and Ivan Disilnya are both descended from the infamous family who entered the mists along with Strahd and Barovia. I do believe Yango Petrovna, darklord of G'Henna is also of Barovian origins.
#8 zombiegleemax Nov 06, 2003 10:52:35	I think he's more concerned with knowing who the outlander darklords are, as opposed to who the "native" darklords are. Most of the "major" domains are ruled by someone not native to Ravenloft. Few domains in the Core have been dragged in with their lord. Barovia (obviously), Mordent (See I10: The House on Gryphon Hill), and Lamordia are the only ones I can think of right now without a book handy.
#9 zombiegleemax Nov 17, 2003 21:32:49	Darklords -Azalin of ?: Greyhawk (noble named Firan Zal'Honan from Great Kingdom of Aerdy) -Draga Salt-Biter of ?: Forgotten Realms (additional info?) -Easan the Mad of ?: Greyhawk (additional info?) -Harkon Lucas of ?: Forgotten Realms (from Cormyr) -Meredoth of ?: Mystara (additional info?) -Soth (formerly) of Sithicus: DragonLance (former Knight of the Rose from Daragaard Keep, in Nightlund?) -Vlad Drakov of ?: DragonLance (mercenary from Thenol, in Taladas) -Von Kharkov of ?: Forgotten Realms (additional info?) Domains -Sithicus: Name of area (DragonLance?) Religions -Lawgiver: Bane (Forgotten Realms) -Morninglord: Lathandar (Forgotten Realms)
#10 zombiegleemax Nov 17, 2003 21:38:37	I'd like to get a little resource together for people like me interested in this. I'd like to know stuff like: Where a lord comes from, where the domain comes from (is based on), any setting specific stuff involved with them. Some of this is really easy stuff, but I don't have books in front of me. If you knowledgeable people could fill in blanks, add more...
#11 manindarkness Nov 17, 2003 21:39:20	Originally posted by Teabee Darklords -Azalin of ?: Greyhawk (additional info?) -Draga Salt-Biter of ?: Forgotten Realms (additional info?) -Easan the Mad of ?: Greyhawk (additional info?) -Harkon Lucas of ?: Forgotten Realms (additional info?) -Meredoth of ?: Mystara (additional info?) -Soth (formerly) of Sithicus: DragonLance (former Knight of the Rose, from Daragaard Keep in ?) -Vlad Drakov of ?: DragonLance (additional info?) -Von Kharkov of ?: Forgotten Realms (additional info?) Domains -Sithicus: Name of area (DragonLance?) Religions -Lawgiver: Bane (Forgotten Realms) -Morninglord: Lathandar (Forgotten Realms) Azalin was a noble in the Great Kingdom of Aerdy. Easan the Mad an elf in one forest bordering the Empire of Iuz (forgot name). Harkon Lucas is from Cormyr. Soth was from Nightlund (it was named differently when he was alive). Vlad Drakov was mercenary from Thenol in Taladas.
#12 manindarkness Nov 17, 2003 21:41:25	Azalin true name is Firan Zal'Honan.
#13 zombiegleemax Nov 17, 2003 21:55:21	Easan the Mad an elf in one forest bordering the Empire of Iuz (forgot name). What kind of elf? Is it the Vesve forrest?
#14 manindarkness Nov 17, 2003 22:08:13	Domains are more difficult, as they resemble the darklord, not necessarily the land. Right now I can only recall that Meredoth's island, Todstein, was taken directly from Mystara; Vorostokov from Cerilia (Birthright) and Kalidnay from Athas (Dark Sun). But I think the city of Kalidnay still exists in Athas.
#15 zombiegleemax Nov 17, 2003 22:26:13	Actually, Firan Zal'Honan was the Earl (later Azal'Lan, literally "wizard-king") of Knurl in the Bone Marches. Chris Nichols
#16 Matthew_L._Martin Nov 17, 2003 22:29:31	Originally posted by ManinDarkness Domains are more difficult, as they resemble the darklord, not necessarily the land. Right now I can only recall that Meredoth's island, Todstein, was taken directly from Mystara; Vorostokov from Cerilia (Birthright) and Kalidnay from Athas (Dark Sun). But I think the city of Kalidnay still exists in Athas. In some cases (ex: Forlorn), the domain is physically removed from the Material Plane. In others (ex: Barovia, Kalidnay), the people are removed and the landscape copied, but the original location remains on the MP. Matthew L. Martin
#17 manindarkness Nov 17, 2003 22:36:26	Originally posted by CNichols Actually, Firan Zal'Honan was the Earl (later Azal'Lan, literally "wizard-king") of Knurl in the Bone Marches. Chris Nichols Well, the Bone Marches were part of Aerdy. Thanks Chris always wanted to know the exact title an place