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Scarlet Brotherhood

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#1
zombiegleemax
Nov 11, 2003 16:39:29 Does anyone know what the first few published apperances of the Scarlet Brotherhood were?

Thanks.
#2
zombiegleemax
Nov 11, 2003 17:20:15 IIRC they were in the 1983 box set GH setting as a sect of isolationist Suel monks. There was also a B&W map of the flanaess with symbols denoting alignment and I'm pretty sure they were down as LN.

I've no idea about before then as I was only 11 ;)
#3
grodog
Nov 11, 2003 20:45:25 From Jason Zavoda's wondrous index:

Scarlet Brotherhood (20,000+/-)[KNG][ORG]
(Scarlet Sign, Brethren, Red Abomination, Scarlet Tyranny)
A1-4 Pg# - 122
A3 Pg# - 20
A4 Pg# - 22
AOE Pg# - 27,50-52,58,68,83,88,96,103-105,188,193,230,231
ATG Pg# - 66,68
CED Pg# - 11,38,240
COG:C# - 5,11
COG:FFF Pg# - 3,82
COH Pg# - 359
DOD Pg# - 11,42,47
DRG#52 Pg# - 22
DRG#55 Pg# - 18
DRG#57 Pg# - 13
DRG#88 Pg# - 8,9,11
DRG#89 Pg# - 21
DRG#164 Pg# - 19
DRG#189 Pg# - 13
DRG#191 Pg# - 64,65,67,68
DRG#200 Pg# - 70
DRG#206 Pg# - 35,38,40,41
DRG#230 Pg# - 12
DRG#233 Pg# - 92
DRG#241 Pg# - 44,80,95
DRG#243 Pg# - 91
DRG#256 Pg# - 47,48,50,51
DRG#263 Pg# - 51
DRG#270 Pg# - 60
DRG#281 Pg# - 38,39,41,42,44
DRG#292 Pg# - 100,101
DRG#293 Pg# - 5,92,93
DRG#299 Pg# - 98,99
DRG#301 Pg# - 89
DRG#302 Pg# - 7,99
DRG#AN3 Pg# - 19,20
DUN#41 Pg# - 50
DUN#42 Pg# - 34
DUN#72 Pg# - 12
FTAA Pg# - 2,3,5-7,9,10,12,13,16,19,20,27,28,30-32,
35-37,39,43,46-49,52,55,58-60,74,77,79,92,93
FTAC Pg# - 1,3,6-10,12,19,22,60,65-69,77,79
FTAR#1
FTAR#2
FTAR#10
FTAR#12
GA Pg# - 3,40,44-46
GW:ADV Pg# - 1,5,6,15,17,22,23,24,26,27,28,29,32
GW:RB Pg# - 8
IVID
LGG Pg# - 6,8,12,15,16,18,21,24,25,45,51,52,54,55,58,59,63,66,
68,69,70,72,73,75,78,79,80,87,88,91,92,93,95,97,98,99
100,101,102,106,110,111,112,119,130,133,134,146,147,
148,149,150,153,160,163,181,184,187,190,IBC
LGJ#0 Pg# - 8,11,12
LGJ#1 Pg# - 13,19,30
LGJ#2 Pg# - 19,26,30
LGJ#3 Pg# - 14,23,28,29,30
LGJ#4 Pg# - 10,16,20,29,30
LGJ#5 Pg# - 7,30
LOG Pg# - Dis,1,6,8,11,12,13,15,17,20,21,24,25,26,27,28,29,31,32
34,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,50,51,52,53,54
55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,73,74,75
76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,88,89,90,93,94,96,97,98
99,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,111,112
NA Pg # - 398
ONW1-01 Pg# - 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15
ONW1-02 Pg# - 4,5,11
PGTG Pg# - 4,5,7,10-12,22,24,25,36,37,45,46,49
RTO8 Pg# - 2,59,60
SAG1 Pg# - 61
SLV Pg# - 3,18,34,35,37,53,87,89,92,93,99,103,104,107
116,119,121-123
SOD Pg# - 21,23-25,27,28,59,68,81,88-90,255,386,389
T1-4 Pg# - 99
TAB Pg# - 3,12,16,18,19,24-38,62,64,79,80,86,96,119,123
TOH Pg# - 5
TSB
WG8 Pg# - 8,13,21,40,46,50,53,57,88,89,90,92,104,105,107,108
109,110,111,112,113,114,116,117,118,119,125
WGG Pg# - IBC,2,5,7,15
WGM1 Pg# - 10
WGR1 Pg# - 82
WGR3 Pg# - 4,6,7
WGR4 Pg# - 9,10,36,63,64,73,74,89
WGR5 Pg# - 6
WGS1 Pg# - 3
WGS2 Pg# - 5
WOGA Pg# - 9,13,33,IBC
WOGG Pg# - 11,17

Enjoy :D
#4
zombiegleemax
Nov 12, 2003 19:13:18 You know, most people don't have that index, so until JZ dumps his crybaby act about OJ and Canonfire, the relevance of posting excerpts seems dubious.
#5
zombiegleemax
Nov 12, 2003 19:20:20
Originally posted by Greyhack
You know, most people don't have that index, so until JZ dumps his crybaby act about OJ and Canonfire, the relevance of posting excerpts seems dubious.

Dubious? What, if anything, has JZ's gripe with the OJ or CF got to do with posting excerpts from his index to help others in their research efforts?
#6
zombiegleemax
Nov 12, 2003 19:31:54 there is no key to the entries

what is SAG
what is SLV

I could probably take some guesses, but having the whole thing would make it a lot more useful, and frankly, I'm just tired of seeing the work of whiners heralded. If JZ is too good to share his work here, or on greytalk, or on canonfire, or wherever, then let his work rot in obscurity, the community does not need the "well, im taking my ball and going home" attitudes or the fruits of the labors of those who possess them..
#7
zombiegleemax
Nov 13, 2003 1:37:42 He's a member of these boards so I'd delete the above if I were you... well... if I were you and wanted to stick around and be able to post to these boards

And yeah, without the entire index and the key, it's pretty useless info I must agree.

But it is a good index. I don't care who it's by or what the person did, I'm going to keep using it because it's good.
#8
zombiegleemax
Nov 13, 2003 4:52:08 I just wish I knew how to get hold of it, it looks mighty useful to me.
#9
grodog
Nov 13, 2003 11:57:03 I don't post the key every time because the key is generally 2-10 times as large as the excerpt that I'm posting. That said, I'd be happy to clarify any questions about acronmys that folks have, too.

Jason and I have talked about hosting the index on my web site; I'll ping him again on that, since there's a renewed interest in the work :D
#10
zombiegleemax
Nov 13, 2003 20:00:22
Originally posted by grodog
Jason and I have talked about hosting the index on my web site; I'll ping him again on that, since there's a renewed interest in the work :D

That's what you said in another thread two weeks ago! Get a move on! :D
#11
grodog
Nov 13, 2003 21:13:39 LOL. Sure Delg :D

edit: Hmmm, looks like Jason's got it online at Harvester's Heroes at
http://www.harvestersheroes.com/uploads\jasonzavoda\GreyhawkNPC2003.zip

Enjoy!
#12
zombiegleemax
Nov 13, 2003 21:31:47
Originally posted by grodog
LOL. Sure Delg :D

edit: Hmmm, looks like Jason's got it online at Harvester's Heroes at
http://www.harvestersheroes.com/uploads\jasonzavoda\GreyhawkNPC2003.zip

Enjoy!

No, we've been through this before. Rich posted the same link. That's the NPC index, not the Encyclopedia Greyhawkania.
#13
grodog
Nov 14, 2003 1:46:47 Doh!

OK, well I wrote to Jason about it again anyway, so we'll have an answer from him soon.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Nov 11, 2003 16:39:29	Does anyone know what the first few published apperances of the Scarlet Brotherhood were? Thanks.
#2 zombiegleemax Nov 11, 2003 17:20:15	IIRC they were in the 1983 box set GH setting as a sect of isolationist Suel monks. There was also a B&W map of the flanaess with symbols denoting alignment and I'm pretty sure they were down as LN. I've no idea about before then as I was only 11 ;)
#3 grodog Nov 11, 2003 20:45:25	From Jason Zavoda's wondrous index: Scarlet Brotherhood (20,000+/-)[KNG][ORG] (Scarlet Sign, Brethren, Red Abomination, Scarlet Tyranny) A1-4 Pg# - 122 A3 Pg# - 20 A4 Pg# - 22 AOE Pg# - 27,50-52,58,68,83,88,96,103-105,188,193,230,231 ATG Pg# - 66,68 CED Pg# - 11,38,240 COG:C# - 5,11 COG:FFF Pg# - 3,82 COH Pg# - 359 DOD Pg# - 11,42,47 DRG#52 Pg# - 22 DRG#55 Pg# - 18 DRG#57 Pg# - 13 DRG#88 Pg# - 8,9,11 DRG#89 Pg# - 21 DRG#164 Pg# - 19 DRG#189 Pg# - 13 DRG#191 Pg# - 64,65,67,68 DRG#200 Pg# - 70 DRG#206 Pg# - 35,38,40,41 DRG#230 Pg# - 12 DRG#233 Pg# - 92 DRG#241 Pg# - 44,80,95 DRG#243 Pg# - 91 DRG#256 Pg# - 47,48,50,51 DRG#263 Pg# - 51 DRG#270 Pg# - 60 DRG#281 Pg# - 38,39,41,42,44 DRG#292 Pg# - 100,101 DRG#293 Pg# - 5,92,93 DRG#299 Pg# - 98,99 DRG#301 Pg# - 89 DRG#302 Pg# - 7,99 DRG#AN3 Pg# - 19,20 DUN#41 Pg# - 50 DUN#42 Pg# - 34 DUN#72 Pg# - 12 FTAA Pg# - 2,3,5-7,9,10,12,13,16,19,20,27,28,30-32, 35-37,39,43,46-49,52,55,58-60,74,77,79,92,93 FTAC Pg# - 1,3,6-10,12,19,22,60,65-69,77,79 FTAR#1 FTAR#2 FTAR#10 FTAR#12 GA Pg# - 3,40,44-46 GW:ADV Pg# - 1,5,6,15,17,22,23,24,26,27,28,29,32 GW:RB Pg# - 8 IVID LGG Pg# - 6,8,12,15,16,18,21,24,25,45,51,52,54,55,58,59,63,66, 68,69,70,72,73,75,78,79,80,87,88,91,92,93,95,97,98,99 100,101,102,106,110,111,112,119,130,133,134,146,147, 148,149,150,153,160,163,181,184,187,190,IBC LGJ#0 Pg# - 8,11,12 LGJ#1 Pg# - 13,19,30 LGJ#2 Pg# - 19,26,30 LGJ#3 Pg# - 14,23,28,29,30 LGJ#4 Pg# - 10,16,20,29,30 LGJ#5 Pg# - 7,30 LOG Pg# - Dis,1,6,8,11,12,13,15,17,20,21,24,25,26,27,28,29,31,32 34,36,37,38,39,40,41,42,43,44,45,46,47,48,50,51,52,53,54 55,56,57,58,59,60,61,62,63,64,65,66,67,68,69,73,74,75 76,77,78,79,80,81,82,83,84,85,88,89,90,93,94,96,97,98 99,101,102,103,104,105,106,107,108,109,111,112 NA Pg # - 398 ONW1-01 Pg# - 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15 ONW1-02 Pg# - 4,5,11 PGTG Pg# - 4,5,7,10-12,22,24,25,36,37,45,46,49 RTO8 Pg# - 2,59,60 SAG1 Pg# - 61 SLV Pg# - 3,18,34,35,37,53,87,89,92,93,99,103,104,107 116,119,121-123 SOD Pg# - 21,23-25,27,28,59,68,81,88-90,255,386,389 T1-4 Pg# - 99 TAB Pg# - 3,12,16,18,19,24-38,62,64,79,80,86,96,119,123 TOH Pg# - 5 TSB WG8 Pg# - 8,13,21,40,46,50,53,57,88,89,90,92,104,105,107,108 109,110,111,112,113,114,116,117,118,119,125 WGG Pg# - IBC,2,5,7,15 WGM1 Pg# - 10 WGR1 Pg# - 82 WGR3 Pg# - 4,6,7 WGR4 Pg# - 9,10,36,63,64,73,74,89 WGR5 Pg# - 6 WGS1 Pg# - 3 WGS2 Pg# - 5 WOGA Pg# - 9,13,33,IBC WOGG Pg# - 11,17 Enjoy :D
#4 zombiegleemax Nov 12, 2003 19:13:18	You know, most people don't have that index, so until JZ dumps his crybaby act about OJ and Canonfire, the relevance of posting excerpts seems dubious.
#5 zombiegleemax Nov 12, 2003 19:20:20	Originally posted by Greyhack You know, most people don't have that index, so until JZ dumps his crybaby act about OJ and Canonfire, the relevance of posting excerpts seems dubious. Dubious? What, if anything, has JZ's gripe with the OJ or CF got to do with posting excerpts from his index to help others in their research efforts?
#6 zombiegleemax Nov 12, 2003 19:31:54	there is no key to the entries what is SAG what is SLV I could probably take some guesses, but having the whole thing would make it a lot more useful, and frankly, I'm just tired of seeing the work of whiners heralded. If JZ is too good to share his work here, or on greytalk, or on canonfire, or wherever, then let his work rot in obscurity, the community does not need the "well, im taking my ball and going home" attitudes or the fruits of the labors of those who possess them..
#7 zombiegleemax Nov 13, 2003 1:37:42	He's a member of these boards so I'd delete the above if I were you... well... if I were you and wanted to stick around and be able to post to these boards And yeah, without the entire index and the key, it's pretty useless info I must agree. But it is a good index. I don't care who it's by or what the person did, I'm going to keep using it because it's good.
#8 zombiegleemax Nov 13, 2003 4:52:08	I just wish I knew how to get hold of it, it looks mighty useful to me.
#9 grodog Nov 13, 2003 11:57:03	I don't post the key every time because the key is generally 2-10 times as large as the excerpt that I'm posting. That said, I'd be happy to clarify any questions about acronmys that folks have, too. Jason and I have talked about hosting the index on my web site; I'll ping him again on that, since there's a renewed interest in the work :D
#10 zombiegleemax Nov 13, 2003 20:00:22	Originally posted by grodog Jason and I have talked about hosting the index on my web site; I'll ping him again on that, since there's a renewed interest in the work :D That's what you said in another thread two weeks ago! Get a move on! :D
#11 grodog Nov 13, 2003 21:13:39	LOL. Sure Delg :D edit: Hmmm, looks like Jason's got it online at Harvester's Heroes at http://www.harvestersheroes.com/uploads\jasonzavoda\GreyhawkNPC2003.zip Enjoy!
#12 zombiegleemax Nov 13, 2003 21:31:47	Originally posted by grodog LOL. Sure Delg :D edit: Hmmm, looks like Jason's got it online at Harvester's Heroes at http://www.harvestersheroes.com/uploads\jasonzavoda\GreyhawkNPC2003.zip Enjoy! No, we've been through this before. Rich posted the same link. That's the NPC index, not the Encyclopedia Greyhawkania.
#13 grodog Nov 14, 2003 1:46:47	Doh! OK, well I wrote to Jason about it again anyway, so we'll have an answer from him soon.