Suggestion for the Planewalker.com Team

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#1

zombiegleemax

Nov 15, 2003 1:36:02
Might be more of a question than an actual suggestion but here goes.

With the Mimir seeming largely defunct and non-updating, my question is this:

Do you forsee any time in the future where fans/players can submit their own works, as in-character letters, dissertations, fiction, etc., much like the Mimir offered?

I would personally take considerable advantage of this, were it offered. I've got numerous stories and ideas up in my (very balanced) head and they're the types that I'd be itching to share where all can see.
#2

zombiegleemax

Nov 15, 2003 1:41:37
"The screed spouted by your Rilmani mouth can probably fill entire tomes. Granted it'll be pure nonsense. Obviously, balance is meaningless. Why MUST there be Chaos? Does it serve a purpose? Chaos is destruction, and destruction is only counter-productive."

"In any case, your idea does have merit. I would consider lending out some works for the greater proliferation of Law. Prepare the Planeswalker site for uploading of sections 1 through 14,567,890,12,43. My Secundi will handle the paperwork."
#3

zombiegleemax

Nov 15, 2003 1:43:23
*gives Primus a very Rilmani sort of look*

"Your robotic...orifice may cease its babbling now. If there is no point to Chaos, then what exactly is the point of Law? Besides, without one, there cannot be the other. Such is the way of Balance."
#4

sildatorak

Nov 15, 2003 1:44:13
You're right about the mimir being non-updating (stupid advanced degrees…), and I'll agree that Planewalker needs to hang onto Snail Outfitters at the very least. I have some odd spells in my book that I need to share with the world at large to make my name as well known as "Melf." *goes into a rant about elf princes and their relative worthlessness*
#5

zombiegleemax

Nov 15, 2003 1:45:57
"You're madness knows no bounds does it? Law simply is. Without Chaos there would only be Law and your "Balance" would be meaningless."

Primus gives Center-Of-All a very "Glowey Energy-Being" kinda look
#6

zombiegleemax

Nov 15, 2003 1:46:19
Oh, one more thing. Your name is "Primus, the One and Prime." That suggests you are a Prime, and therefore likely Clueless. You have to be destroyed by default or else find a Prime who is as chaotic as you are lawful. The Balance, and all.
#7

zombiegleemax

Nov 15, 2003 2:06:25
"I am in no way "Clueless". Now silence your jabbering so we can focus on your one good thought."

"Perhaps the planewalker team is far to overworked to accomadate such a request. Afterall, they're still writing alot of content. Perhaps someone else can start up a site and Planewalker and the new site can cross post. Now we just need someone with alot of free time, working knowledge of the internet, and enough Planescape knowledge to create a viable framework to hold stuff."
#8

moogle001

Nov 15, 2003 3:11:13
That and more is what is planned for planewalker.com, which is partially why development is soooo long. But yes, planewalker will reach that point eventually where it will once again be a nexus for fan activity.
#9

zombiegleemax

Nov 15, 2003 8:09:21
Marvelous!

Be prepared for my essay, "How to Drop a Modron Off the Spire," coming soon to a Planewalker.com near you!
#10

Shemeska_the_Marauder

Nov 15, 2003 8:32:26
*Watches this banter with great amusment*

And be prepared for a guide on 'How to drop them all off the spire eventually' but that would make it seem that I have Darkwoodesque aspirations, which, well, would be suicidal. I'm an alltogether different creature I assure you.

*cough* And yeah, what Moogle said
#11

zombiegleemax

Nov 15, 2003 13:19:05
(also watching the arguement)

Now now -- you kids fight right or I'll send you outside and make you play together!
#12

zombiegleemax

Nov 15, 2003 13:23:46
Well, since it may be a while before Planewalker.com gets around to the fan-side of things, I will have to consider opening a fan-site for Planescape. It could prove to be very interesting.
#13

primemover003

Nov 15, 2003 14:18:23
Watch the Prime jibes there cutter. While some may be clueless others are likely some of the most dangerous and powerful Planewalkers in the Multiverse. My time in the Seeker's has shown me the error of Cager arrogance concerning some primes. All beings are on the path to divinity... some are closer than others, even Exemplars such as yourself.
#14

zombiegleemax

Nov 15, 2003 16:58:13
There was a lot of interesting info on mimir that wasn't anywhere else. Is everything on mimir canon?
#15

zombiegleemax

Nov 15, 2003 17:48:58
No. In fact, the Mimir was all fan submission stuff. if you want to find information about Canon Planescap stuff the Mimir is actually horrible. I can't find anything on there when I'm looking for information, but there's a whole lot of really cool screed.
#16

Shemeska_the_Marauder

Nov 15, 2003 23:56:26
Yeah, the stuff on Mimir is not to be taken as canon, though there's tons of game fodder there. I actually like the material there on coins and money on the planes, and have used a good bit in my current campaign in that article.

Theres some great ideas, alot of good ideas and there's stuff an ooze mephit would turn its nose up at, but everything is worth a look.

The one great thing about Mimir is the poem there by Swinburne, 'Dolores' is the name of I think. I believe that in part, it formed the basis for The Lady of Pain. Very very very good stuff....
#17

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 1:14:43
Interesting. Some stuff I really liked there that was almost certainly not canon was stuff on alternate ways to get around the planes. I'm really into mythology and was delighted to see a lot of classic ways across implemented. Still though, we really need a fan site like that up again.
#18

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 1:17:08
Okay, supposing I -do- decide to create a PS fansite with the hopes of potentially rivaling the Mimir...What would I call it and who would help me build it? *balanced cackling*
#19

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 1:19:42
"You know, Center, while you disgust me in your nudity and shapelessness, I think that I could assist you in this, your noble effort."

"I don't know what you could call it. 'The City of Doors?' 'The Center Cog?' 'At the Spire?' 'The Orrery?'
#20

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 1:24:41
Of those I like city of doors--it really evokes the whole idea of Planescape in my mind. And I would definitely submit a lot to the site/if you need help making it I'd be interested. Not this second, mind you (stupid Aztec religions research report...), but I'm up for it. I would also be interested in putting up expanded/updated versions of some of the old mimir articles I liked.
#21

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 1:28:41
"Nudity and shapelessness?! How DARE you! I happen to be a very FINE figure of a rilmani. My Klingon-ridges are perfectly balanced and my body is absolutely stunning! At least I'm not an oversized Tinkertoy who commands an army of boxes!

"As for the name, I had considered 'The City of Doors.' 'The Center Cog' is definitely OUT. I'll not have my webserver tarnished by silly Modron law. 'At the Spire' proves very, very, very interesting indeed. Unfortunately, we rilmani see too few berks at the Spire. Most of them are smart enough to know that we have power and they don't at the Spire.

"Whatever the name, it should be a general something that can be picked out of canon PS and used to provide a good fansite. For some reason, while I like 'The City of Doors,' there's just -something- about that name that makes me feel a bit uncertain about using it. But, it does make the most sense of all the generic places that could possibly be used for such a site.

"As far as connecting things from the Mimir goes: Should this site go through, we wouldn't be able to use anything that is on the Mimir right now. I think articles that build upon what's already written in the Mimir would be okay, but I'd try to avoid doing any 'updating' from the Mimir. Anything on this new site would be directly related to PS3E from Planewalker.com."
#22

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 1:28:57
The problem is that, I believe, there are already is some fan-related thing called "The City of Doors."
#23

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 1:34:23
doh, I'm an idiot. That's the NWN project *smacks head incredibly hard against table then quickly regrets it* Hmmm.... maybe "Center of the Spire"?

The problem with saying has to be related to PS3E is that we simply won't have the full thing for a very long time. That's limiting. Should be anything with Planescape (except the novels... *shudders*...). But again, I'm up for working on the site design. I'm also liking how amusingly fast these responses are coming, heh.
#24

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 1:37:25
How about this. Instead of picking a major planar nexus point, list some major planar sites that would be appealing/interesting to visit. From those lists, we could select one.

And you're probably right about the PS3E thing. Planescape in general would be sufficient until PS3E is more thoroughly released.
#25

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 1:39:54
"Then I suppose, 'The Regulus Pages' is out of the question, eh, Center? What would you have us call it? "The Balanced Gazette?" "At the Fulcrum?" "Let's put a whole bunch of crap in a pot and mix it up?" Balance, indeed."

"Hm well in all seriousness, I can check the indexs for proper naming conventions....

"Atop the Spire."
"On the Edge of the Ring."
"The Bladed Shadow"
"Astral Corpses: Memories of the Powers"

"Ergh, I seem to be running low on thoughts tonight. Perhaps another Great March is in order. It'd give me a chance to take a quick nap...."
#26

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 1:43:44
"'Atop the Spire' has a very nice ring to it. Very nice indeed.

"Although, I rather like the name 'Let's put a whole bunch of crap in a pot and mix it up.' It fits very well with the whole Balance thing.

"And do send your boxes on another March. Those things are always so amusing, watching the modrons cause more chaos than they are lawful."
#27

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 1:47:04
I think a nexus point would be best because it goes for the campaign as a whole instead of just implying a portion.

Atop the Spire: Nexus of the Multiverse
Center of the Wheel
Our Site's Better than Your Site
When Good Factions Go Wrong (er... wait... that was a show on Fox I saw last week...)
?


Alright, assuming we'll agree on a name later.... one thing that needs to be improved greatly is organization.
#28

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 1:49:20
Perhaps we should find some other way of discussing this so that we don't spam up the boards here? That would be horribly unbalanced. Any ideas?
#29

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 1:49:40
In fact, first, we should see what the Planewalker team thinks of this idea. We don't want to go off and be loose cannons. They say they plan to do the exact thing that we are planning on, and while it seems that they are quite overworked, we wouldn't want to step on any toes. After all, they're doing some kickass work for OUR benefit.
#30

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 1:52:23
Two things: #1 we could do this a lot quicker in an IM chat or something--I agree with the Spam thing.

#2 I think that while they work on the official product someone else needs to get the fan-stuff out there. While they do say they're interested in doing something similar, I don't think they'd mind us working on this instead on letting them focus on getting stuff officially done. And it'd be nice if we could get this out as soon as possible. I'm assuming both of you are interested in at least putting out writing if creating the actual site--and I figure we could get this up and going extremely fast.
#31

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 1:52:38
Amazing. The oversized Box finally makes some sense.
#32

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 1:55:07
Amazing. The talking oversized box finally makes sense.

I agree. Let's wait and see what the Planewalker folks think first. If they don't mind, then we can see what we can come up with. And if they do mind, well, we never lost anything to start with.
#33

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 1:55:52
Hehe.... so, back to it, you guys interested in working this out right now (as I'm free right now and generally aren't at this time of night) or later? Not the details, but just finish working out the basics.
#34

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 1:57:55
Alright then. Guess I'm just really impatient.
#35

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 1:58:42
Later sounds much better than now at the moment. I'm pretty beat and will be heading to bed shortly. If you'd like my IM information, though, feel free to drop me a PM through the boards.
#36

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 2:02:24
Yes, the gentle gridning of the gears is about to carry me away. G'nght all.
#37

sildatorak

Nov 16, 2003 21:40:50
You should call it "City at the Center" and definitely have a spellbook for Spell-slinging 'walkers to scribble a few notes of what they've found out on the planes.
#38

zombiegleemax

Nov 16, 2003 22:07:16
Well, assuming we get some sort of approval from the forces that be (aka the PS3E crew) I'll get onto designing the website, and that's a great idea for the section.

Hint Hint, PS3E peeps.
#39

Shemeska_the_Marauder

Nov 16, 2003 22:45:09
Wish I could give an answer, I just write and occasionally gripe at other folks. And post here to inflate my ego and spread the gospel of Planescape. :D

But maybe Moogle will read this and reply, I'll poke him since he's online now.
#40

factol_rhys_dup

Nov 16, 2003 22:57:05
Originally posted by Center of All
'Atop the Spire' has a very nice ring to it. Very nice indeed.

Yes, there is a very nice ring indeed atop the Spire. No pun intended, I assume.
#41

zombiegleemax

Nov 17, 2003 1:58:02
Originally posted by Factol Rhys
Yes, there is a very nice ring indeed atop the Spire. No pun intended, I assume.

*snicker* No, I hadn't intended a pun, but it's rather amusing now that you mention it.
#42

zombiegleemax

Nov 17, 2003 18:03:18
*taps his foot extremely impatiently while waiting for response*
#43

bob_the_efreet

Nov 17, 2003 18:06:22
How about, as a name, 'Cadence of the Planes'? I mean, I'm not a Cipher or anything *looks around to make sure there are no other efreet in the region* but it has a nice ring to it, right?
#44

zombiegleemax

Nov 18, 2003 0:08:16
::chirp, chirp::?

Now, as an incarnation of absolute Order I;m usually a patient fellow, but not everyone has infinitudes to wait. What say those of you whose opinion seems important? Yea or Nay?
#45

moogle001

Nov 18, 2003 0:32:41
Actually I fully support discussing anything and everything on this board; any communication, even developmental, shows activity and promotes growth for the community itself. So please do keep it up.

As for having a fan center website, my initial reaction was of course "I'd like them to be doing this for us". Simply easiest and most beneficial for all involved. So let me clarify our position.

The web design staff has already decided that the planewalker.com website is to serve as a nexus for fan material, subsites, and community exchange. The layouts for the skeleton of a system to handle everything we want to do has been laid out, and some progress has been made. However, we only have two coders on the job, both of whom have full time jobs doing coding already. Until this system is complete, there's no point in forcing any material onto the barebone design we have at the moment.

So...if you truly want to devote yourself to such a project, you might be of greater help working with our team to finish the website design. If you think you can handle this just get in contact with me and we can discuss what skills are needed and any other details.
#46

zombiegleemax

Nov 18, 2003 0:42:54
Well, I am quite interested. I am fairly proficient in HTML and I've dabbled in php -- still learning this code though. The only things I don't touch in web-design are Java and JavaScript so if you're looking to put those in the site, you'll probably have to have someone else do them.

If you would like me to work on anything code-wise or site-content wise, please drop me a PM/IM/E-mail and I'll see what I can do. The only thing is that I have some time constraints. I'm currently going to uni full-time, working part-time and adminning for a MUD. I could definitely spare some time to support Planewalker, though, if you would like my help.

Just let me know what you'd like to see.
#47

zombiegleemax

Nov 18, 2003 1:07:45
I also would like to help out, if I can. Sadly, coding is not my strong point. Cest la vie.
#48

zombiegleemax

Nov 18, 2003 8:48:55
I'm intersted I suppose. I used to be fairly proficient with html + javascript but haven't worked with 'em in a long while.