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Demi-Lich or Death Knight

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#1
zombiegleemax
Nov 18, 2003 4:00:35 In this campaign I'm in it is VERY monty hall so please bare with me, I have to make a choice. Right now I am a 27th level wizard with a 66 INT. Yes I know that beyond GODLY and the game would not be fun if we all didnt make fun of the godlike abilities we all have. I have in my possession an item that is going to turn me into a Demi-Lich with all abilities and caster levels or a Death-Knight with all abilities and caster levels AND will not be bound to any God what-so-ever. The Death Knight would have some sort of phelactery (spelling) also like the Demi-lich. After you stop laughing try to answer the question.

Soth
#2
cam_banks
Nov 18, 2003 9:25:45 You mean, should you be a demi-lich or a death knight? Well, you'd make a pretty lousy death knight, since you're a wizard, and demi-liches are just skulls with soul-trapping gems embedded in place of teeth and eyes and don't actually do much of anything. Not really a good future in either.

Cheers,
Cam
#3
daedavias_dup
Nov 18, 2003 9:40:46
Originally posted by Cam Banks
You mean, should you be a demi-lich or a death knight? Well, you'd make a pretty lousy death knight, since you're a wizard, and demi-liches are just skulls with soul-trapping gems embedded in place of teeth and eyes and don't actually do much of anything. Not really a good future in either.

Cheers,
Cam

Was Fistindantalis(god darnit I hate his friggin name) a demi-lich or just plain lich? I think I have seen both listed for him at one point.

And Soth, to answer your question, I would go with the death knight, because then at least you have legs.
#4
cam_banks
Nov 18, 2003 10:56:12
Originally posted by Daedavias
Was Fistindantalis(god darnit I hate his friggin name) a demi-lich or just plain lich? I think I have seen both listed for him at one point.

Originally? In DL3, he's a demi-lich. This is absolutely staggering given that if the heroes actually fought him, they would all be thoroughly dead. Granted, the module gives the party a vorpal sword (one of the things which can harm a demi-lich) but if it wasn't for the fact that the demi-lich form of Fistandantilus completely leaves the heroes alone if they don't do anything to attack it, it'd be a really short saga.

Cheers,
Cam
#5
Matthew_L._Martin
Nov 18, 2003 11:31:16
Originally posted by Daedavias
Was Fistindantalis(god darnit I hate his friggin name) a demi-lich or just plain lich? I think I have seen both listed for him at one point.

I think both, since except in the most exceptional circumstances, you have to spend years as a lich to gradually wear away to/ascend to demilich status.

Matthew L. Martin
#6
zombiegleemax
Nov 18, 2003 14:16:51
Originally posted by Cam Banks
You mean, should you be a demi-lich or a death knight? Well, you'd make a pretty lousy death knight, since you're a wizard, and demi-liches are just skulls with soul-trapping gems embedded in place of teeth and eyes and don't actually do much of anything. Not really a good future in either.

Cheers,
Cam

I would keep all casting abilities even as a death knight, I guess I was just looking for the one that would prove more beneficial when dealing with special abilities and resistances? Also, like I said this item, whatever UBAH item this DM has thought up would give me the ability to have a body as a demi. Thanks all for the advise.

Soth
#7
zombiegleemax
Nov 18, 2003 16:56:36 So, you're a Demilich with a body?

In any casem the Death Knight is a Lich for the Fighter cclasses. the Lich's powers are built for casters a Death Knight is built for Fighters. Pick the Lich.
#8
baron_the_curse
Nov 18, 2003 18:44:26 Since your character is not a Knight of any Order how is he going to become a Death Knight? Even if you commit some horrid crime why would the gods curse you to be a Death Knight? You’ll probably suffer as some other form of undead.

And by the way a character with an INT 66 should be intelligent enough to not want to become any type of undead.
#9
carteeg
Nov 18, 2003 19:04:52 I can believe someone with a 66 intelligence would want to become an undead.

INT 66
WIS 2
#10
zombiegleemax
Nov 18, 2003 19:30:18 Damn guys I shoulda took this to the regular boards. This campaign world is not in Dragonlance. Sorry for waisting your time.

Soth
#11
zombiegleemax
Nov 18, 2003 20:21:48 well, hrm.... actually, in 3rd ed, demiliches are even eviler than in second ed. Check them out in the Epic Level Handbook. Things can fly, got a evil bite, and some wicked powers. I'd personally be the floating jeweled skull myself.
#12
zombiegleemax
Nov 18, 2003 20:21:52 edit: stupid computer......

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Nov 18, 2003 4:00:35	In this campaign I'm in it is VERY monty hall so please bare with me, I have to make a choice. Right now I am a 27th level wizard with a 66 INT. Yes I know that beyond GODLY and the game would not be fun if we all didnt make fun of the godlike abilities we all have. I have in my possession an item that is going to turn me into a Demi-Lich with all abilities and caster levels or a Death-Knight with all abilities and caster levels AND will not be bound to any God what-so-ever. The Death Knight would have some sort of phelactery (spelling) also like the Demi-lich. After you stop laughing try to answer the question. Soth
#2 cam_banks Nov 18, 2003 9:25:45	You mean, should you be a demi-lich or a death knight? Well, you'd make a pretty lousy death knight, since you're a wizard, and demi-liches are just skulls with soul-trapping gems embedded in place of teeth and eyes and don't actually do much of anything. Not really a good future in either. Cheers, Cam
#3 daedavias_dup Nov 18, 2003 9:40:46	Originally posted by Cam Banks You mean, should you be a demi-lich or a death knight? Well, you'd make a pretty lousy death knight, since you're a wizard, and demi-liches are just skulls with soul-trapping gems embedded in place of teeth and eyes and don't actually do much of anything. Not really a good future in either. Cheers, Cam Was Fistindantalis(god darnit I hate his friggin name) a demi-lich or just plain lich? I think I have seen both listed for him at one point. And Soth, to answer your question, I would go with the death knight, because then at least you have legs.
#4 cam_banks Nov 18, 2003 10:56:12	Originally posted by Daedavias Was Fistindantalis(god darnit I hate his friggin name) a demi-lich or just plain lich? I think I have seen both listed for him at one point. Originally? In DL3, he's a demi-lich. This is absolutely staggering given that if the heroes actually fought him, they would all be thoroughly dead. Granted, the module gives the party a vorpal sword (one of the things which can harm a demi-lich) but if it wasn't for the fact that the demi-lich form of Fistandantilus completely leaves the heroes alone if they don't do anything to attack it, it'd be a really short saga. Cheers, Cam
#5 Matthew_L._Martin Nov 18, 2003 11:31:16	Originally posted by Daedavias Was Fistindantalis(god darnit I hate his friggin name) a demi-lich or just plain lich? I think I have seen both listed for him at one point. I think both, since except in the most exceptional circumstances, you have to spend years as a lich to gradually wear away to/ascend to demilich status. Matthew L. Martin
#6 zombiegleemax Nov 18, 2003 14:16:51	Originally posted by Cam Banks You mean, should you be a demi-lich or a death knight? Well, you'd make a pretty lousy death knight, since you're a wizard, and demi-liches are just skulls with soul-trapping gems embedded in place of teeth and eyes and don't actually do much of anything. Not really a good future in either. Cheers, Cam I would keep all casting abilities even as a death knight, I guess I was just looking for the one that would prove more beneficial when dealing with special abilities and resistances? Also, like I said this item, whatever UBAH item this DM has thought up would give me the ability to have a body as a demi. Thanks all for the advise. Soth
#7 zombiegleemax Nov 18, 2003 16:56:36	So, you're a Demilich with a body? In any casem the Death Knight is a Lich for the Fighter cclasses. the Lich's powers are built for casters a Death Knight is built for Fighters. Pick the Lich.
#8 baron_the_curse Nov 18, 2003 18:44:26	Since your character is not a Knight of any Order how is he going to become a Death Knight? Even if you commit some horrid crime why would the gods curse you to be a Death Knight? You’ll probably suffer as some other form of undead. And by the way a character with an INT 66 should be intelligent enough to not want to become any type of undead.
#9 carteeg Nov 18, 2003 19:04:52	I can believe someone with a 66 intelligence would want to become an undead. INT 66 WIS 2
#10 zombiegleemax Nov 18, 2003 19:30:18	Damn guys I shoulda took this to the regular boards. This campaign world is not in Dragonlance. Sorry for waisting your time. Soth
#11 zombiegleemax Nov 18, 2003 20:21:48	well, hrm.... actually, in 3rd ed, demiliches are even eviler than in second ed. Check them out in the Epic Level Handbook. Things can fly, got a evil bite, and some wicked powers. I'd personally be the floating jeweled skull myself.
#12 zombiegleemax Nov 18, 2003 20:21:52	edit: stupid computer......