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#1
b4real
Nov 24, 2003 11:26:17 Has anyone read this book? Is it about Lady Kateri Shadowborn? What is the curse of Shadowborn manor?

~B4Real
#2
william_cairnstone_dup
Nov 25, 2003 4:59:48
Originally posted by B4Real
Has anyone read this book? Is it about Lady Kateri Shadowborn? What is the curse of Shadowborn manor?

~B4Real

Warning: this may have spoilers ahead:

I've read it a few years ago. It's not so much about Kateri as about her descendent (son ?), Alexis. He fails his test for paladinhood and instead becomes a lode paladin, which serves as a tool for higher and more difficult tasks for the god: in this case, to try to destroy Ebonbane who's taken up residence at Shadowborn Manor after the death of Kateri... well, he kind of fails, but at least (I think, but don't remember too well) he somehow curses Ebonbane by imprisoning him in a sword. I'm not sure about the end, but I think that was it :embarrass

W.C.
#3
zombiegleemax
Nov 25, 2003 7:30:08 Bad novel! Bad novel!

To quote a review on the Kargatane; "Cutesy little sister! Peh! Idyllic life! Double Peh!" or words to that effect.

Worst Ravenloft novel out, and I've read Tapestry.
#4
tryst_91
Nov 25, 2003 8:23:58 Actually i liked it pretty well. Not my favorite RL book by far but it wasn't that bad... i thought "death of a dark lord" was the worst one... I have all of them and that one i can't bring myself to reread pretty much ever... Anway the story is actually a little different.
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Ok actually Ebonbane is already trapped in the sword when he kills Lady Shadowborn. Alexi destroys the sword and takes ebonbane into his own body due to the nature of the load paladin and so instead of being imprisoned in the sword the darklord is now imprisoned in Alexi! by the way, there was additional fiction on this in one of the kargatane book of S_'s. It was a great pic of work in my opinion. Does anyone know if it counts as canon with SS. I think it is a great premise.

tryst
#5
zombiegleemax
Nov 25, 2003 8:30:16 Speaking of which, has anyone been reading the Dragonlance Kingpriest trilogy? I saw the last one, Sacred Fire at the bookstore and was thumbing through it to see if I wanted to buy it now. I happened to catch the name of a sword in it; Ebonbane!
I have the first two books in the set, but haven't read them yet. Anyone; same Ebonbane that was later brought to Ravenloft, or a different one?
#6
b4real
Dec 01, 2003 13:13:53
Originally posted by Drinnik Shoehorn
Bad novel! Bad novel!

To quote a review on the Kargatane; "Cutesy little sister! Peh! Idyllic life! Double Peh!" or words to that effect.

Worst Ravenloft novel out, and I've read Tapestry.

From the responses that I have read on this board it sounds as if the book sucks.

~B4Real
#7
zombiegleemax
Dec 01, 2003 14:41:23
Originally posted by B4Real
From the responses that I have read on this board it sounds as if the book sucks.

~B4Real

I don't agree. I liked it quite a bit. Not a Hemmingway novel but it's still a good little story. It gives a lot of background for the Shadowland cluster and Alexei's story is tragic. Maybe it does looks a little like Luke Skywalker's story but in that case, a lot other stories must be similar.
#8
b4real
Dec 01, 2003 14:44:38
Originally posted by Charney
I don't agree. I liked it quite a bit. Not a Hemmingway novel but it's still a good little story. It gives a lot of background for the Shadowland cluster and Alexei's story is tragic. Maybe it does looks a little like Luke Skywalker's story but in that case, a lot other stories must be similar.

Don't tell me that someone gets turned over to the darkside of the force.

~B4Real
#9
zombiegleemax
Dec 01, 2003 14:59:40
Originally posted by B4Real
Don't tell me that someone gets turned over to the darkside of the force.

~B4Real

Darkside of the farce, maybe.
#10
b4real
Dec 01, 2003 15:01:43
Originally posted by Drinnik Shoehorn
Darkside of the farce, maybe.

LoL..Am I to take it you do not like this book that much?

~B4Real
#11
zombiegleemax
Dec 01, 2003 15:24:00 No. I do not.
#12
zombiegleemax
Dec 01, 2003 15:33:02 To make matters worse I really like Tapestry of Dark Soul. First Ravenloft book I read and first book I read in which basically every heroic character dies or get maimed. I couldn't believe it!
#13
b4real
Dec 01, 2003 15:49:54
Originally posted by Charney
To make matters worse I really like Tapestry of Dark Soul. First Ravenloft book I read and first book I read in which basically every heroic character dies or get maimed. I couldn't believe it!

Is that the one where they had the shroud at that monastery? On the front is a monk holding the shroud right? If that is the one you are talking about that book is tight!

~B4Real
#14
zombiegleemax
Dec 01, 2003 16:00:55 I like Tapestry, but I think the beginning half is better than the second.
#15
zombiegleemax
Dec 01, 2003 20:09:13 If it helps, I thoroughly enjoyed Shadowborn.

Chris Nichols
#16
mortavius
Dec 01, 2003 20:54:48 I second Chris on this one; Shadowborn was a great novel in my opinion. Ravenloft has needed a champion of light for some time, and the Shadowborn family seems very nicely suited towards that role.
#17
zombiegleemax
Dec 02, 2003 9:51:37
Ok actually Ebonbane is already trapped in the sword when he kills Lady Shadowborn. Alexi destroys the sword and takes ebonbane into his own body due to the nature of the load paladin and so instead of being imprisoned in the sword the darklord is now imprisoned in Alexi! by the way, there was additional fiction on this in one of the kargatane book of S_'s. It was a great pic of work in my opinion. Does anyone know if it counts as canon with SS. I think it is a great premise.

tryst

It was the book of Shadows and the short story about Shadowborn Manor, written by JWM I must add, was pure genius.

For what it's worth I quite liked Shadowborn but thought Tapestry was appalling.

And does anyone have an answer to Catman's question? Does Ebonbane come from Krynn???
#18
zombiegleemax
Dec 02, 2003 11:20:11
Originally posted by Brother_Martyn
It was the book of Shadows and the short story about Shadowborn Manor, written by JWM I must add, was pure genius.

I agree wholeheartly!

And does anyone have an answer to Catman's question? Does Ebonbane come from Krynn???

No...

Spoilers below...

Ebonbane is a demon from the lower planes (A Balor I think) and he was summoned to the Great Kingdom. Now we don't know anything about this Kingdom. I don't think it's from Krynn though, I think that like Barovia it's just a nameless prime material world from which the Mists drew Darklords. Three darklords come from the Great Kingdom: Ebonbane (Shadowborn Manor), Morgoroth (spelling???) (Avonleigh) and Elena Faith-Hold (Nidala)
#19
mortavius
Dec 02, 2003 13:10:14 Ebonbane is revealed in Shadowborn to be a Nalfneshnee, actually.
#20
b4real
Dec 02, 2003 13:14:49
Originally posted by Mortavius
Ebonbane is revealed in Shadowborn to be a Nalfneshnee, actually.

I am going to have to copy and paste this to our RL boards I was actually looking for the stats on EbonBane there.

~B4Real
#21
zombiegleemax
Dec 05, 2003 12:31:07 Shadowborn is an excellent read. I especially like how it shows that even heroes can be flawed.

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 b4real Nov 24, 2003 11:26:17	Has anyone read this book? Is it about Lady Kateri Shadowborn? What is the curse of Shadowborn manor? ~B4Real
#2 william_cairnstone_dup Nov 25, 2003 4:59:48	Originally posted by B4Real Has anyone read this book? Is it about Lady Kateri Shadowborn? What is the curse of Shadowborn manor? ~B4Real Warning: this may have spoilers ahead: I've read it a few years ago. It's not so much about Kateri as about her descendent (son ?), Alexis. He fails his test for paladinhood and instead becomes a lode paladin, which serves as a tool for higher and more difficult tasks for the god: in this case, to try to destroy Ebonbane who's taken up residence at Shadowborn Manor after the death of Kateri... well, he kind of fails, but at least (I think, but don't remember too well) he somehow curses Ebonbane by imprisoning him in a sword. I'm not sure about the end, but I think that was it :embarrass W.C.
#3 zombiegleemax Nov 25, 2003 7:30:08	Bad novel! Bad novel! To quote a review on the Kargatane; "Cutesy little sister! Peh! Idyllic life! Double Peh!" or words to that effect. Worst Ravenloft novel out, and I've read Tapestry.
#4 tryst_91 Nov 25, 2003 8:23:58	Actually i liked it pretty well. Not my favorite RL book by far but it wasn't that bad... i thought "death of a dark lord" was the worst one... I have all of them and that one i can't bring myself to reread pretty much ever... Anway the story is actually a little different. . . . . . . . . . . . spoiler <-- just making sure you realize!!!!!!!! Ok actually Ebonbane is already trapped in the sword when he kills Lady Shadowborn. Alexi destroys the sword and takes ebonbane into his own body due to the nature of the load paladin and so instead of being imprisoned in the sword the darklord is now imprisoned in Alexi! by the way, there was additional fiction on this in one of the kargatane book of S_'s. It was a great pic of work in my opinion. Does anyone know if it counts as canon with SS. I think it is a great premise. tryst
#5 zombiegleemax Nov 25, 2003 8:30:16	Speaking of which, has anyone been reading the Dragonlance Kingpriest trilogy? I saw the last one, Sacred Fire at the bookstore and was thumbing through it to see if I wanted to buy it now. I happened to catch the name of a sword in it; Ebonbane! I have the first two books in the set, but haven't read them yet. Anyone; same Ebonbane that was later brought to Ravenloft, or a different one?
#6 b4real Dec 01, 2003 13:13:53	Originally posted by Drinnik Shoehorn Bad novel! Bad novel! To quote a review on the Kargatane; "Cutesy little sister! Peh! Idyllic life! Double Peh!" or words to that effect. Worst Ravenloft novel out, and I've read Tapestry. From the responses that I have read on this board it sounds as if the book sucks. ~B4Real
#7 zombiegleemax Dec 01, 2003 14:41:23	Originally posted by B4Real From the responses that I have read on this board it sounds as if the book sucks. ~B4Real I don't agree. I liked it quite a bit. Not a Hemmingway novel but it's still a good little story. It gives a lot of background for the Shadowland cluster and Alexei's story is tragic. Maybe it does looks a little like Luke Skywalker's story but in that case, a lot other stories must be similar.
#8 b4real Dec 01, 2003 14:44:38	Originally posted by Charney I don't agree. I liked it quite a bit. Not a Hemmingway novel but it's still a good little story. It gives a lot of background for the Shadowland cluster and Alexei's story is tragic. Maybe it does looks a little like Luke Skywalker's story but in that case, a lot other stories must be similar. Don't tell me that someone gets turned over to the darkside of the force. ~B4Real
#9 zombiegleemax Dec 01, 2003 14:59:40	Originally posted by B4Real Don't tell me that someone gets turned over to the darkside of the force. ~B4Real Darkside of the farce, maybe.
#10 b4real Dec 01, 2003 15:01:43	Originally posted by Drinnik Shoehorn Darkside of the farce, maybe. LoL..Am I to take it you do not like this book that much? ~B4Real
#11 zombiegleemax Dec 01, 2003 15:24:00	No. I do not.
#12 zombiegleemax Dec 01, 2003 15:33:02	To make matters worse I really like Tapestry of Dark Soul. First Ravenloft book I read and first book I read in which basically every heroic character dies or get maimed. I couldn't believe it!
#13 b4real Dec 01, 2003 15:49:54	Originally posted by Charney To make matters worse I really like Tapestry of Dark Soul. First Ravenloft book I read and first book I read in which basically every heroic character dies or get maimed. I couldn't believe it! Is that the one where they had the shroud at that monastery? On the front is a monk holding the shroud right? If that is the one you are talking about that book is tight! ~B4Real
#14 zombiegleemax Dec 01, 2003 16:00:55	I like Tapestry, but I think the beginning half is better than the second.
#15 zombiegleemax Dec 01, 2003 20:09:13	If it helps, I thoroughly enjoyed Shadowborn. Chris Nichols
#16 mortavius Dec 01, 2003 20:54:48	I second Chris on this one; Shadowborn was a great novel in my opinion. Ravenloft has needed a champion of light for some time, and the Shadowborn family seems very nicely suited towards that role.
#17 zombiegleemax Dec 02, 2003 9:51:37	Ok actually Ebonbane is already trapped in the sword when he kills Lady Shadowborn. Alexi destroys the sword and takes ebonbane into his own body due to the nature of the load paladin and so instead of being imprisoned in the sword the darklord is now imprisoned in Alexi! by the way, there was additional fiction on this in one of the kargatane book of S_'s. It was a great pic of work in my opinion. Does anyone know if it counts as canon with SS. I think it is a great premise. tryst It was the book of Shadows and the short story about Shadowborn Manor, written by JWM I must add, was pure genius. For what it's worth I quite liked Shadowborn but thought Tapestry was appalling. And does anyone have an answer to Catman's question? Does Ebonbane come from Krynn???
#18 zombiegleemax Dec 02, 2003 11:20:11	Originally posted by Brother_Martyn It was the book of Shadows and the short story about Shadowborn Manor, written by JWM I must add, was pure genius. I agree wholeheartly! And does anyone have an answer to Catman's question? Does Ebonbane come from Krynn??? No... Spoilers below... Ebonbane is a demon from the lower planes (A Balor I think) and he was summoned to the Great Kingdom. Now we don't know anything about this Kingdom. I don't think it's from Krynn though, I think that like Barovia it's just a nameless prime material world from which the Mists drew Darklords. Three darklords come from the Great Kingdom: Ebonbane (Shadowborn Manor), Morgoroth (spelling???) (Avonleigh) and Elena Faith-Hold (Nidala)
#19 mortavius Dec 02, 2003 13:10:14	Ebonbane is revealed in Shadowborn to be a Nalfneshnee, actually.
#20 b4real Dec 02, 2003 13:14:49	Originally posted by Mortavius Ebonbane is revealed in Shadowborn to be a Nalfneshnee, actually. I am going to have to copy and paste this to our RL boards I was actually looking for the stats on EbonBane there. ~B4Real
#21 zombiegleemax Dec 05, 2003 12:31:07	Shadowborn is an excellent read. I especially like how it shows that even heroes can be flawed.