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#1 zombiegleemax Nov 25, 2003 12:55:28	Late last night, after pondering many a quaint and curious volume of forgotten lore (anthropology), i had an idea totally unrelated to it. One idea was a possible faction, the other was just on the nature of planescape, and it's roots, so to speak, in philosophy. To start, planescape is all about platonic ideals, the idea that, somewhere in a higher realm, there exists a perfect, absolute ideal form for something, like an animal or ideal, which is reflected in modern science by splitters (people who generally decide almost every new find is a new species, if there's anything outside "normal" variation). Being a lumper myself (if it looks like a duck, about the same size, give or take, as a duck, and sounds like a duck... it's a duck), i just found this insight interesting. I suppose the world of darkness cosmology falls a bit into the opposite end of the spectrum, but let's not go into that here, though. Second, and probably finally, what if there was a faction that was an opposite of the signers? Instead of seeing themselves as the center of the multiverse, imagining it all into existence, what if this faction saw themselves as the entire multiverse? A bit more clearly, what if their belief was that there was only one self, but every time it died, it inhabited a new body, irrespective of place or time, so every other person/being/deity was simply them, in another body? I know it's a lot like the godsmen, but, rather than believing every person has potential, believing that every person is simply their same core essence in another body? How workable would this idea be, what plane would this likely center on (hehe, the outlands, i'd say), etc, etc. Feel free to use or abuse these ideas as you see fit, but keep it civil, if you please.
#2 factol_rhys_dup Nov 25, 2003 14:09:46	Whee! We all get to be factol! I can see a big problem: a lot like the Signers have to deal with the fact that any member who's doing it right has to believe that all the other factioneers are products of their mind, all members of this faction would think that all the others are past-life clones of them. "Am I you, or are you me?" This could always just be a weird splinter sect of the Sign of One. If they were around anymore. I guess this whole thing just goes to show you that it's a bad idea to mess with what works.
#3 Shemeska_the_Marauder Nov 25, 2003 23:50:55	The was a Signer who was described in 'In The Cage' who not only believed as all good signers do, that he was the center of the multiverse, but that everything around him was just another part of 'him'. The multiverse was him in that respect. He was also a psychotic madman and murderer. He viewed killing others and fireballing occupied buildings in the Hive as nothing more than trimming his fingernails or cutting his hair. After all, it was all a part of him anyways, he could do as he wished. I'm away from all of my books at the moment, and on a borrowed computer, otherwise I'd find the fellow's name for you since the concept is somewhat similar.
#4 zombiegleemax Nov 30, 2003 20:25:39	Neato. Yeah, the idea was a sort of splinter of Signers, but ideally more benevolent than the guy who fireballed the hive. Ah well, as i said, just something i was wondering about.