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#1 faraer Nov 29, 2003 15:14:20	Does anyone have accurate north-south and east-west distances for the area covered by Darlene Pekul's Flanaess maps?
#2 OleOneEye Nov 29, 2003 22:26:19	It has been forever since I figured it, but I do remember that the land area roughly approximated North America.
#3 grodog Nov 30, 2003 1:26:08	I thought this was covered in one of the related Oerth Journal articles by Roger E. Moore and Gary Holian (OJ3 and 4 respectively), but it seems that they focused on the whole of Oerth rather than the Darlene Flanaess maps themselves. Hmmph. Perhaps on our our resident cartrographers would be so kind as to chime in with an answer, or Gary Holian since he's around too? :D
#4 zombiegleemax Dec 02, 2003 9:56:50	2910 miles North to South 4320 miles East to West about 1/3 bigger than the continental United States
#5 zombiegleemax Dec 02, 2003 16:35:03	The map is consistently about 2900 miles north to south, no matter where you measure. However, when you look at Darlene's Flanaess map, you are looking at a projection of a curved surface. So east to west distances are distorted as a function of latitude. For instance, the map is approximately 3900 miles wide, east to west at 35N latitude (approximately the City of Greyhawk in the middle of the map.) However, its only 2750 miles wide from edge to edge at the latitude (55N) in the vicinity of Blackmoor. In contrast, the map is 4500 miles(!) in the same latitude as the Sea Princes and the Thillonrian Peninsula. These distortions are worse the farther you get from the center of the map (distances shrink to the north and they increase towards the equator). A flat distortion-free Darlene's map would actually look like the top half of the peel of an orange wedge. Here's your rule of thumb: THE EAST-WEST SCALE IN THE FLANAESS AS A FUNCTION OF LATITUDE --------------------------------------------------------------- Appar. Actual E-W E-W LAT Scale Scale Features/Locations ------------------------------------------------------------- 90 N 30 0.00 North Pole (its a single point) 85 N 30 3.19 80 N 30 6.36 75 N 30 9.48 70 N 30 12.53 65 N 30 15.48 60 N 30 18.31 Northern verges of Oerik map. 55 N 30 21.01 Blackmoor, Land of Black Ice, N. Thillonrian 50 N 30 23.54 Wolf/Tiger Nomads, Rovers, Suel Barbarians 45 N 30 25.90 Ekbir, Dorakaa, Wintershiven, Pale, Ratik 40 N 30 28.06 Chendl, Shield Lands, Urnst, N. Province 35 N 30 30.00 Veluna, Greyhawk, Rel Mord, Sea Barons 30 N 30 31.71 Niole Dra, Highport, S. Province, Rel Astra 25 N 30 33.19 Yeomanry, Sunndi, Spindrift Isles, Lendore 20 N 30 34.41 Hellfurnaces, Tilvanot Penin., Lordship Isles 15 N 30 35.38 Sea of Dust, Amedio Jungle, N. Hepmonaland 10 N 30 36.07 Densac Gulf, Hepmonaland 5 N 30 36.48 0 30 36.62 Equator (maximum) 5 S 30 36.48 Hope that helps.
#6 faraer Dec 03, 2003 11:58:23	Thanks. I'd counted the n-s hexes, the e-w was trickier, and seemingly still is. PSmedger, what's the lateral distance on a basic hex-counting basis? I scanned the small folio political map, counted pixels within borders with Photoshop (inaccurate, I know) and tried converting that into square miles, but I get bigger numbers than from counting the hexes... I did get good results by assuming a 20% urban population (between the historical norm and the 40% figure in World Builder) in each state, subtracting city populations from that, and dividing by 6000 to get number of towns, revealing that nations have extra unmapped small towns from none to lots. I might write a "Filling in the Flanaess" article...