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Geist's CR

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#1
zombiegleemax
Nov 30, 2003 11:34:10 Hi, everyone!

I asked Azalin a question briefly before the termination of the Kargatane website but I never saw an answer...

In the Denizens of Darkness book, the Geist template's CR is a fixed 1/2. It looks strange, since it is a template which is applicable to a character or creature of any level. Any thoughts or suggestions?
#2
Keen_Man
Nov 30, 2003 12:17:37 the cr is 1/2 of old. so a cr 8 turned to a gheist is a cr 4
#3
zombiegleemax
Nov 30, 2003 13:57:22 It's because a geist is a harmless spirit. It can not interact with the material world in any way. It's a creature of torment who can't manipulate its surroundings. Think of Haki Shimpi, probably a 16th level fighter or Aristocrat or something in life, but now is an innefectual geist who can do nothing but watch as his sons destroy his empire.
#4
zombiegleemax
Dec 01, 2003 7:58:27 I agree with Drinnik, but bear in mind that if the players should face the Geist on the Etheral Plane, the CR would be another question entirely...
#5
zombiegleemax
Dec 01, 2003 18:24:52 Seems simple to me...if the PCs are dealing with the Geist in "nerfed" ghost form on the material world then use the CR of 1/2. If the PCs manage to confront a geist on the ethereal plane use its old stats (and CR) with a homebrewed "generic" undead template.

-Eric Gorman

Generic Undead Template (no Con, d12 HD, undead immunities, if anchored then probably immunue to turning, give it the ghost's chance to reform if destroyed). Maybe worth CR+1 for low hp-type bases (wizards & rogues), maybe not for high hp bases (barbarians).

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Nov 30, 2003 11:34:10	Hi, everyone! I asked Azalin a question briefly before the termination of the Kargatane website but I never saw an answer... In the Denizens of Darkness book, the Geist template's CR is a fixed 1/2. It looks strange, since it is a template which is applicable to a character or creature of any level. Any thoughts or suggestions?
#2 Keen_Man Nov 30, 2003 12:17:37	the cr is 1/2 of old. so a cr 8 turned to a gheist is a cr 4
#3 zombiegleemax Nov 30, 2003 13:57:22	It's because a geist is a harmless spirit. It can not interact with the material world in any way. It's a creature of torment who can't manipulate its surroundings. Think of Haki Shimpi, probably a 16th level fighter or Aristocrat or something in life, but now is an innefectual geist who can do nothing but watch as his sons destroy his empire.
#4 zombiegleemax Dec 01, 2003 7:58:27	I agree with Drinnik, but bear in mind that if the players should face the Geist on the Etheral Plane, the CR would be another question entirely...
#5 zombiegleemax Dec 01, 2003 18:24:52	Seems simple to me...if the PCs are dealing with the Geist in "nerfed" ghost form on the material world then use the CR of 1/2. If the PCs manage to confront a geist on the ethereal plane use its old stats (and CR) with a homebrewed "generic" undead template. -Eric Gorman Generic Undead Template (no Con, d12 HD, undead immunities, if anchored then probably immunue to turning, give it the ghost's chance to reform if destroyed). Maybe worth CR+1 for low hp-type bases (wizards & rogues), maybe not for high hp bases (barbarians).