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#1
avatardso
Dec 02, 2003 17:44:30 OK I have a book from the dark sun setting that talks about how to allow players to become advanced elemental beings simular to the changes that the wizards go through just less dramatic and in shorter time.

My question is this... has there been any other advanced beings for clerics in the normal DS story line that I missed? Just curious.

Also there is some other classes that I thought was interesting for wizards that which to become specialized in other sources of energy... My favorite was the shadow mage... Where they sacrafice a hand sizedportion of their body to a different plane and its replaced by shadow mass and has like a permenent chill touch on it etc.

There was some nice twists in these class specializations. But have they been used at all in the DS novels or story line?

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#2
zombiegleemax
Dec 02, 2003 18:02:46 This from the Prism Pentad as I havent read any other novels and stories of DS outside the rule books.
Sadira of Tyre was imbued with special sun magic at the shadow controlled pristine tower. What ended up happening was her skin turned ebony black during the day and she breathed icy cold clouded breath which was essentially from the black. She was also able to manipulate the black to some extent (summon shadow ppl, pull ppl from the black if they were just pulled in).

As for clerics....no mention of them but its only fitting that the servants of the elements would be able to take upon their form once they mastered their disciplines.
#3
zombiegleemax
Dec 02, 2003 18:05:00 This from the Prism Pentad as I havent read any other novels and stories of DS outside the rule books.
Sadira of Tyre was imbued with special sun magic at the shadow controlled pristine tower. What ended up happening was her skin turned ebony black during the day and she breathed icy cold clouded breath which was essentially from the black. She was also able to manipulate the black to some extent (summon shadow ppl, pull ppl from the black if they were just pulled in).

As for clerics....no mention of them but its only fitting that the servants of the elements would be able to take upon their form once they mastered their disciplines.
#4
avatardso
Dec 02, 2003 19:49:23 Hmm ok the thing is though that iI thought that the way sadira became a SUN wizard was not able to realy be reprooduced but the thing is the shadow wizards bodies dont turn black but litteraly aprts of the body... disapear and are replaced permenantly by a living chadow... This metmorphasis when the character reaches highest level will only cover 50% of the body.
so this has to be slightly different from sadira.

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#5
zombiegleemax
Dec 02, 2003 20:00:14 Sorry about the double post my browser was acting up.

You are right as far as Sadiras transformation goes that wasnt an avenue normally available. But it does lay the basis for a solid connection between the black and sorcery. A lot of material in the rule books isnt played out in any of the stories, which is fine by me I think that ought to be left to the players (esp in the case of the prism pentad...i still run my campaigns in the Age of SK's and just take a few odds and ends from the Age of Heroes).
#6
zombiegleemax
Dec 02, 2003 20:58:13 druids become spirits of the land, or at least part of it
#7
zombiegleemax
Jan 18, 2004 3:39:28 If elemental clerics were to become advanced elemental beings, could there offspring be Genasi?
#8
Kamelion
Jan 18, 2004 11:18:23 Druids can also become ruvoka. See Planescape MC3 for more on this.
#9
xlorepdarkhelm_dup
Jan 18, 2004 11:40:46
Originally posted by AvatarDSO
Hmm ok the thing is though that iI thought that the way sadira became a SUN wizard was not able to realy be reprooduced but the thing is the shadow wizards bodies dont turn black but litteraly aprts of the body... disapear and are replaced permenantly by a living chadow... This metmorphasis when the character reaches highest level will only cover 50% of the body.
so this has to be slightly different from sadira.

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You are correct. There were three variant types of Wizards (technically 4, but Sun Wizard is a unique variation with only 1 person who is it):

Necromancer (called Necromant by.... I think it was Nytcrawlr, but I could be mistaken, I like this word better myself) - which drew power from The Gray.
Shadow Mage - which drew power from The Black.
Cerulean Mage - which drew power from the Cerulean Storm.

You are talking about the Shadow Mage, it is described in Preservers & Defilers.
#10
Pennarin
Jan 19, 2004 2:34:30
Originally posted by AvatarDSO
My question is this... has there been any other advanced beings for clerics in the normal DS story line that I missed? Just curious.

They don't appear in the novels because they were introduced in Defilers & Preservers, during or after which came, I believe, the last DS novel published: Rise and Fall of a Dragon King. And it dosen't mention anything in that direction.

Hope it explains stuff to you

[Edit] Corrected ''my comuter's spleling errnors '' :D
#11
xlorepdarkhelm_dup
Jan 19, 2004 11:46:09
Originally posted by Pennarin
[Edit] Corrected ''my comuter's spleling errnors '' :D

Lol.

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#1 avatardso Dec 02, 2003 17:44:30	OK I have a book from the dark sun setting that talks about how to allow players to become advanced elemental beings simular to the changes that the wizards go through just less dramatic and in shorter time. My question is this... has there been any other advanced beings for clerics in the normal DS story line that I missed? Just curious. Also there is some other classes that I thought was interesting for wizards that which to become specialized in other sources of energy... My favorite was the shadow mage... Where they sacrafice a hand sizedportion of their body to a different plane and its replaced by shadow mass and has like a permenent chill touch on it etc. There was some nice twists in these class specializations. But have they been used at all in the DS novels or story line? Avatar
#2 zombiegleemax Dec 02, 2003 18:02:46	This from the Prism Pentad as I havent read any other novels and stories of DS outside the rule books. Sadira of Tyre was imbued with special sun magic at the shadow controlled pristine tower. What ended up happening was her skin turned ebony black during the day and she breathed icy cold clouded breath which was essentially from the black. She was also able to manipulate the black to some extent (summon shadow ppl, pull ppl from the black if they were just pulled in). As for clerics....no mention of them but its only fitting that the servants of the elements would be able to take upon their form once they mastered their disciplines.
#3 zombiegleemax Dec 02, 2003 18:05:00	This from the Prism Pentad as I havent read any other novels and stories of DS outside the rule books. Sadira of Tyre was imbued with special sun magic at the shadow controlled pristine tower. What ended up happening was her skin turned ebony black during the day and she breathed icy cold clouded breath which was essentially from the black. She was also able to manipulate the black to some extent (summon shadow ppl, pull ppl from the black if they were just pulled in). As for clerics....no mention of them but its only fitting that the servants of the elements would be able to take upon their form once they mastered their disciplines.
#4 avatardso Dec 02, 2003 19:49:23	Hmm ok the thing is though that iI thought that the way sadira became a SUN wizard was not able to realy be reprooduced but the thing is the shadow wizards bodies dont turn black but litteraly aprts of the body... disapear and are replaced permenantly by a living chadow... This metmorphasis when the character reaches highest level will only cover 50% of the body. so this has to be slightly different from sadira. Avatar
#5 zombiegleemax Dec 02, 2003 20:00:14	Sorry about the double post my browser was acting up. You are right as far as Sadiras transformation goes that wasnt an avenue normally available. But it does lay the basis for a solid connection between the black and sorcery. A lot of material in the rule books isnt played out in any of the stories, which is fine by me I think that ought to be left to the players (esp in the case of the prism pentad...i still run my campaigns in the Age of SK's and just take a few odds and ends from the Age of Heroes).
#6 zombiegleemax Dec 02, 2003 20:58:13	druids become spirits of the land, or at least part of it
#7 zombiegleemax Jan 18, 2004 3:39:28	If elemental clerics were to become advanced elemental beings, could there offspring be Genasi?
#8 Kamelion Jan 18, 2004 11:18:23	Druids can also become ruvoka. See Planescape MC3 for more on this.
#9 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Jan 18, 2004 11:40:46	Originally posted by AvatarDSO Hmm ok the thing is though that iI thought that the way sadira became a SUN wizard was not able to realy be reprooduced but the thing is the shadow wizards bodies dont turn black but litteraly aprts of the body... disapear and are replaced permenantly by a living chadow... This metmorphasis when the character reaches highest level will only cover 50% of the body. so this has to be slightly different from sadira. Avatar You are correct. There were three variant types of Wizards (technically 4, but Sun Wizard is a unique variation with only 1 person who is it): Necromancer (called Necromant by.... I think it was Nytcrawlr, but I could be mistaken, I like this word better myself) - which drew power from The Gray. Shadow Mage - which drew power from The Black. Cerulean Mage - which drew power from the Cerulean Storm. You are talking about the Shadow Mage, it is described in Preservers & Defilers.
#10 Pennarin Jan 19, 2004 2:34:30	Originally posted by AvatarDSO My question is this... has there been any other advanced beings for clerics in the normal DS story line that I missed? Just curious. They don't appear in the novels because they were introduced in Defilers & Preservers, during or after which came, I believe, the last DS novel published: Rise and Fall of a Dragon King. And it dosen't mention anything in that direction. Hope it explains stuff to you [Edit] Corrected ''my comuter's spleling errnors '' :D
#11 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Jan 19, 2004 11:46:09	Originally posted by Pennarin [Edit] Corrected ''my comuter's spleling errnors '' :D Lol.