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#1 zombiegleemax Dec 05, 2003 21:17:54	My Half-orc Psychic Warrior was battling some werewolves in Solace last session and got bit before he killed them. I thought, "great, now that I'm a shapechanger I can take the Warshaper PrC in Complete Warrior." But my DM says that characters running around morphing their limbs into weapons is too "Fantastic Four" and goes against the spirit of Krynn. Do you agree?
#2 zombiegleemax Dec 05, 2003 21:54:31	*Takes a few blinks at that post, and feels his brain exploding* please tell me you're joking...
#3 cam_banks Dec 05, 2003 21:56:29	Originally posted by Kai Lord My Half-orc Psychic Warrior was battling some werewolves in Solace last session and got bit before he killed them. I thought, "great, now that I'm a shapechanger I can take the Warshaper PrC in Complete Warrior." But my DM says that characters running around morphing their limbs into weapons is too "Fantastic Four" and goes against the spirit of Krynn. Do you agree? Not so. In fact, in my campaigns I stress the inherent connection between Raistlin and Reed Richards, Goldmoon and Sue Richards, and of course Tasslehoff and Franklin Richards. Just last session, I had the villain of the piece, Galac Dracticus, eat Taladas. The heroes only managed to stop him from doing the same to Ansalon's drow cities by turning the Device of Time Nullifying upon him. Close one. Cheers, Cam
#4 Dragonhelm Dec 05, 2003 22:13:40	I once played a sorcerer who was a pyromancer who kept yelling "Flame on!".
#5 zombiegleemax Dec 05, 2003 23:32:04	Originally posted by Cam Banks Not so. In fact, in my campaigns I stress the inherent connection between Raistlin and Reed Richards, Goldmoon and Sue Richards, and of course Tasslehoff and Franklin Richards. My DM also started doing that ever since Tracy Hickman's comment in the Annotated Legends about his vision of the Krynn pantheon being based off "Mormonism and a healthy dose of John Byrne's run on the Fantastic Four." Nevertheless he felt the Warshaper PrC would take the references to the point of parody. Don't know what to tell him. *shrugs* Originally posted by Cam Banks Just last session, I had the villain of the piece, Galac Dracticus, eat Taladas. The heroes only managed to stop him from doing the same to Ansalon's drow cities by turning the Device of Time Nullifying upon him. Close one. Our party has only gone to the drow cities once since their introduction in DL15, and that was when a our DM had a Death Knight named Viktor Von Duhm (who had once been a military physician of sorts before being cursed) invaded it with his army of mole men. It didn't go very well, in fact our entire party would have been wiped out were it not for a fair bit of deus ex machina when a polymorphed silver dragon came sliding in on an elongated Tenser's Floating Disc and blasted the enemies away. We had a catchy nickname for that guy but it escapes me at the moment.
#6 jonesy Dec 06, 2003 12:23:46	Your DM has psionics, orcs, drow and lycanthropes in a DL campaign yet feels that a warshaper is a no-no?
#7 baron_the_curse Dec 06, 2003 13:52:44	Cam, the few drows I've put in my campaign are worshipers of Takhisis wayward handmaiden. As introduced in the Wild Elf supplement. Now I have a Dark Elf Silvanesti that's made an alliance with them and is planning on opening a portal to the "outcast" drow of Krynn. What's the background story of your drow if you don't sharing? And where did you located there cities?
#8 talinthas Dec 06, 2003 14:08:28	Well, last night, my party ran into an army of brutes, led by a fourteenth level Defiler. Luckily the gnome colony we were in had access to a jammer, so we were able to head out. Right now, we're aiming to head to Dargaard to take out the Tarrasque.
#9 zombiegleemax Dec 06, 2003 17:43:44	*was about to eat everyone's brains here but realized that there wasn't enough food for even a bite* darnit! :88E: oh well. DISINTEGRATE!!!!
#10 Dragonhelm Dec 06, 2003 17:47:11	Originally posted by talinthas Well, last night, my party ran into an army of brutes, led by a fourteenth level Defiler. Luckily the gnome colony we were in had access to a jammer, so we were able to head out. Right now, we're aiming to head to Dargaard to take out the Tarrasque. Poor Fred. :sad:
#11 jonesy Dec 06, 2003 17:51:48	Originally posted by talinthas Right now, we're aiming to head to Dargaard to take out the Tarrasque. Don't forget red roses and a box of chocolates. Which restaurant will you be going to? I hear the cloud giant castle above Palanthas makes great roasted leviathan.
#12 Dragonhelm Dec 06, 2003 18:27:14	Originally posted by jonesy Don't forget red roses and a box of chocolates. Which restaurant will you be going to? I hear the cloud giant castle above Palanthas makes great roasted leviathan. Say hello to the death knights who run the Spelljammer port in Palanthas while you're there. ;)
#13 zombiegleemax Dec 06, 2003 19:03:48	Originally posted by jonesy Your DM has psionics, orcs, drow and lycanthropes in a DL campaign yet feels that a warshaper is a no-no? My DM doesn't allow orcs on Krynn. Read the original Art of Dragonlance and you'll see they specifically aren't allowed. But ever since half-orcs were made canon in Riverwind the Shadow Years our DM has allowed us to play them.
#14 jonesy Dec 06, 2003 19:07:24	Originally posted by Kai Lord My DM doesn't allow orcs on Krynn. Read the original Art of Dragonlance and you'll see they specifically aren't allowed. But ever since half-orcs were made canon in Riverwind the Shadow Years our DM has allowed us to play them. Riverwind the Shadow Years huh? That must be the lost seventh book of the preludes. :D Why would that make them canon and how has he explained the presence of half-orcs without the presence of orcs themselves?
#15 zombiegleemax Dec 06, 2003 19:15:06	Originally posted by jonesy Riverwind the Shadow Years huh? That must be the lost seventh book of the preludes. :D Why would that make them canon and how has he explained the presence of half-orcs without the presence of orcs themselves? They're canon because they've appeared in the novels (and the DLCS). Since their origins have deliberately been left a mystery our DM has ruled that they're simply corrupted drow.
#16 jonesy Dec 06, 2003 19:22:11	Originally posted by Kai Lord They're canon because they've appeared in the novels. You really canonize everything seen in the novels? Really? No I'm not judging, I'm totally fascinated by the idea. Because when you dig into the novels, and I mean dig deep, you can come up with a lot of weird stuff.
#17 cam_banks Dec 06, 2003 23:29:36	Originally posted by Baron the Curse What's the background story of your drow if you don't sharing? And where did you located there cities? I was kidding. Cheers, Cam
#18 silvanthalas Dec 07, 2003 0:02:01	Originally posted by Kai Lord They're canon because they've appeared in the novels (and the DLCS). Just because something has appeared in the novels shoudln't make it automatically canon, *especially* if it's a mistake. I mean, Rabe's The Silver Stair says that the Knights of Takhisis had a castle upon Schallsea during the War of the Lance. By the gods, if your logic automatically makes that obvious mistake canon, please don't be insulted by the fact that I wouldn't want to game in your group. Don't know if you're referring to Riverwind the Plainsman, or Tanis the Shadow Years, but the Tas Preludes novel had a half-orc. And the DLCS half-orc is an admitted typo. Since their origins have deliberately been left a mystery our DM has ruled that they're simply corrupted drow. Deliberately? *shakes head*
#19 talinthas Dec 07, 2003 0:26:22	so how many folks were tripped up by the satire? :D
#20 daedavias_dup Dec 07, 2003 1:03:36	Originally posted by Magus_Extreme *was about to eat everyone's brains here but realized that there wasn't enough food for even a bite* darnit! :88E: oh well. DISINTEGRATE!!!! I thought we have been over this, every time you use...DISINTEGRATE!!!!.... my spell turning ability kicks in. You know, after three tries and three resurrection spells, I would think that you would have learned by now... BTW, the half-orc in Kendermore(the novel you are thinking of) is no longer there in the new versions. Therefore, she has been UN-canonized. I think on more than one occasion the authors of the DLCS have said whoops about the one in there. Oh yeah, how exactly does a corrupted drow equate to a half-orc in the first place?
#21 zombiegleemax Dec 07, 2003 2:22:28	I actuallymissed the satire until about halfway down this thread. Way to go everyone. I especially thought the top guy was a clueless berk. Oop, wrong slang...
#22 talinthas Dec 07, 2003 4:46:10	Originally posted by Daedavias BTW, the half-orc in Kendermore(the novel you are thinking of) is no longer there in the new versions. Therefore, she has been UN-canonized. I think on more than one occasion the authors of the DLCS have said whoops about the one in there. THis is incorrect. the latest printing of kendermore (with the new cover) still has half orc. i checked when it came out....
#23 daedavias_dup Dec 07, 2003 10:01:34	Originally posted by talinthas THis is incorrect. the latest printing of kendermore (with the new cover) still has half orc. i checked when it came out.... Perhaps they did a running change of it?
#24 zombiegleemax Dec 07, 2003 14:42:34	Originally posted by talinthas so how many folks were tripped up by the satire? :D Satire? What satire?
#25 daedavias_dup Dec 07, 2003 20:27:52	Originally posted by Kai Lord Satire? What satire? Ah ha......I get it now, I totally misread the initial post...whoops. :D :D :D
#26 zombiegleemax Dec 09, 2003 13:01:52	Yeah, I got tripped up. For a while, I couldn't figure out what was genuine and what was satire. Kept blinking and scrolling back and forth.