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#1
william_cairnstone_dup
Dec 10, 2003 12:03:10 Well, strange though it may seem:

if you were to put Conan's Hyboria somewhere in RL (let's say, a domain based on it), to what CL would it belong ? Is it more in the edge between history / pre-history or something like Saxons and Vikings, between centuries VII and IX ?

Curious to hear your takes.

W.C.
#2
zombiegleemax
Dec 10, 2003 14:43:32 Doesn't really have a real-world analog, as I recall... They have steel weaponry, but armor is fairly primitve by comparison, for just one example.
#3
zombiegleemax
Dec 10, 2003 14:55:18 consider, though, that it is semi-arid. kind of on the border of a desert and having heavy metal armor would really be a pain.

a culture can go without armor & still flourish, think middle east.

it would definately be a separate domain, though, because the outlook on magic isn't as horrid as most of RL. cults to ophidian gods where the cultists shape-shift. wizards who fight alongside warriors.

it's pretty classic D&D style, but a bit simpler as far as crafts go so i figure it'd be about the CL 4 or 5?
#4
zombiegleemax
Dec 10, 2003 15:14:14 Conan is Cimmerian. It's COLD where he comes from. All climates are represented, but armor isn't. As I said, it's kinda weird.

I'd put it at 5, with some areas having superior weapon forging techniques.
#5
johannixx
Dec 12, 2003 16:25:15 Hyboria is a huge world, encompassing all sorts of climates and cultures. According to the original books, the most advanced of the Hyborian nations (Aquilonia, Nemedia, Ophir, Brythunia) had plate armor and were pretty much at a Hundred Years' War tech level. The Picts were still in the copper age. The Turanians and Hyrkanians had a flourishing culture with excellent swordmaking techniques. The AEsir and Vanir were Early Middle Ages Norse. The Zingarans and Argosseans used rapiers and cutlasses with ships capable of traversing oceans. The Stygians were bronze-age Egyptians who had discovered steel.

If any of the Hyborian nations were to end up in Ravenloft, I would guess the most probable would be Stygia, Acheron or Hyperborea. Acheron, when it existed, would have been another bronze-age kingdom full of necromancers. Hyperborea had steel, but their building techniques were crude, leaning me to rank them as Dark Ages.
#6
zombiegleemax
Dec 12, 2003 16:40:15 Howard stole (as you might have noticed) the names of lots of ancient tribes, the Cimmerians are no exception, they were one of the "chariot Peoples" that overthrew the Akkadian empire of Sargon.
#7
zombiegleemax
Dec 12, 2003 16:46:53 Howard stole (as you might have noticed) the names of lots of ancient tribes, the Cimmerians are no exception, they were one of the "chariot Peoples" that overthrew the Akkadian empire of Sargon.
#8
william_cairnstone_dup
Dec 15, 2003 3:39:32
Originally posted by Arilou_skiff
Howard stole (as you might have noticed) the names of lots of ancient tribes, the Cimmerians are no exception, they were one of the "chariot Peoples" that overthrew the Akkadian empire of Sargon.

And I think the ancient Greeks knew a region called Hyboria to the far north of the earth. Also, the Aesir and Vanir are people of the Norse mithology. I know little of it, but it appears the Aesir (the Aces) became Gods and the Vanir were the mortal race, like men.
Also, I think the ancient Greek knew a people called Cimmerian too.

W.C.
#9
william_cairnstone_dup
Dec 15, 2003 3:41:05
Originally posted by William Cairnstone
And I think the ancient Greeks knew a region called Hyboria to the far north of the earth. Also, the Aesir and Vanir are people of the Norse mithology. I know little of it, but it appears the Aesir (the Aces) became Gods and the Vanir were the mortal race, like men.
Also, I think the ancient Greek knew a people called Cimmerian too.

W.C.

Oh, and Stygia is a province in Austria, surprisingly the same where Carmilla Karnstein acted during the story Carmilla, by Sheridan LeFanu. Btw, it's one story many times recomended as a good example of gothic literature, although it is kind of daring in a way.

W.C.

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#1 william_cairnstone_dup Dec 10, 2003 12:03:10	Well, strange though it may seem: if you were to put Conan's Hyboria somewhere in RL (let's say, a domain based on it), to what CL would it belong ? Is it more in the edge between history / pre-history or something like Saxons and Vikings, between centuries VII and IX ? Curious to hear your takes. W.C.
#2 zombiegleemax Dec 10, 2003 14:43:32	Doesn't really have a real-world analog, as I recall... They have steel weaponry, but armor is fairly primitve by comparison, for just one example.
#3 zombiegleemax Dec 10, 2003 14:55:18	consider, though, that it is semi-arid. kind of on the border of a desert and having heavy metal armor would really be a pain. a culture can go without armor & still flourish, think middle east. it would definately be a separate domain, though, because the outlook on magic isn't as horrid as most of RL. cults to ophidian gods where the cultists shape-shift. wizards who fight alongside warriors. it's pretty classic D&D style, but a bit simpler as far as crafts go so i figure it'd be about the CL 4 or 5?
#4 zombiegleemax Dec 10, 2003 15:14:14	Conan is Cimmerian. It's COLD where he comes from. All climates are represented, but armor isn't. As I said, it's kinda weird. I'd put it at 5, with some areas having superior weapon forging techniques.
#5 johannixx Dec 12, 2003 16:25:15	Hyboria is a huge world, encompassing all sorts of climates and cultures. According to the original books, the most advanced of the Hyborian nations (Aquilonia, Nemedia, Ophir, Brythunia) had plate armor and were pretty much at a Hundred Years' War tech level. The Picts were still in the copper age. The Turanians and Hyrkanians had a flourishing culture with excellent swordmaking techniques. The AEsir and Vanir were Early Middle Ages Norse. The Zingarans and Argosseans used rapiers and cutlasses with ships capable of traversing oceans. The Stygians were bronze-age Egyptians who had discovered steel. If any of the Hyborian nations were to end up in Ravenloft, I would guess the most probable would be Stygia, Acheron or Hyperborea. Acheron, when it existed, would have been another bronze-age kingdom full of necromancers. Hyperborea had steel, but their building techniques were crude, leaning me to rank them as Dark Ages.
#6 zombiegleemax Dec 12, 2003 16:40:15	Howard stole (as you might have noticed) the names of lots of ancient tribes, the Cimmerians are no exception, they were one of the "chariot Peoples" that overthrew the Akkadian empire of Sargon.
#7 zombiegleemax Dec 12, 2003 16:46:53	Howard stole (as you might have noticed) the names of lots of ancient tribes, the Cimmerians are no exception, they were one of the "chariot Peoples" that overthrew the Akkadian empire of Sargon.
#8 william_cairnstone_dup Dec 15, 2003 3:39:32	Originally posted by Arilou_skiff Howard stole (as you might have noticed) the names of lots of ancient tribes, the Cimmerians are no exception, they were one of the "chariot Peoples" that overthrew the Akkadian empire of Sargon. And I think the ancient Greeks knew a region called Hyboria to the far north of the earth. Also, the Aesir and Vanir are people of the Norse mithology. I know little of it, but it appears the Aesir (the Aces) became Gods and the Vanir were the mortal race, like men. Also, I think the ancient Greek knew a people called Cimmerian too. W.C.
#9 william_cairnstone_dup Dec 15, 2003 3:41:05	Originally posted by William Cairnstone And I think the ancient Greeks knew a region called Hyboria to the far north of the earth. Also, the Aesir and Vanir are people of the Norse mithology. I know little of it, but it appears the Aesir (the Aces) became Gods and the Vanir were the mortal race, like men. Also, I think the ancient Greek knew a people called Cimmerian too. W.C. Oh, and Stygia is a province in Austria, surprisingly the same where Carmilla Karnstein acted during the story Carmilla, by Sheridan LeFanu. Btw, it's one story many times recomended as a good example of gothic literature, although it is kind of daring in a way. W.C.