darksun 3.0???

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#1

zombiegleemax

Dec 18, 2003 22:02:14
have they or will they? i would like to know so i can stop looking forit
:headexplo :headexplo :headexplo :headexplo :headexplo :headexplo :headexplo :headexplo :headexplo
#2

xlorepdarkhelm_dup

Dec 18, 2003 22:32:30
athas.org

Just read about 95% of the posts in this forum (or choose one randomly) and it's probably about the conversion. They have it updated to 3.5 edition rules actually.

Due to my attempts to being more..... hospitable to people, I won't speak my mind about this, other than:

http://boards1.wizards.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=149452

which is a thread where someone basically asked the exact same thing within a week of your post. And it's still on the first page of posts.

or

http://boards1.wizards.com/forumdisplay.php?s=&forumid=286

which is the page people use to come to this forum (usually) and has the following quote:

Dark Sun
To quote The Burnt World of Athas website, Dark Sun is "set on a desert planet where magic harms the environment, gods don't exist, priests pray to the Elements, and Psionics are commonplace."

And if you followed that link, your question would have been answered without needing to post it.

Have a nice day. Welcome to the Dark Sun forums.
#3

zombiegleemax

Dec 18, 2003 23:15:49
I'm gonna hafta ask for that back now, xlorepdarkhelm . . . and you were doing so well.

While Athas.org is indeed doing an online only, completely free conversion (along with supplements, dark sun monster books, adventures, you know, the good stuff), if you were referring to they, meaning WOTC, doing a Dark Sun 3e, then the answer is no. There's not going to be any continuation of the Dark Sun setting except for two places: Athas.org, and an upcomming series of articles in Dragon Magazine by David Noonan. Hopefully xlorp hasn't scared you off, some of us here are a little more *ahem* even tempered about things. So, welcome aboard. There's plenty of discussion going on and the more ideas and opinions we got, the better (we're currently about 48% away from having a whole brain so, we could use a little infusion of grey matter . . . every little bit helps).
#4

jon_oracle_of_athas

Dec 19, 2003 3:41:04
Compared to the old Xlorep, that was being nice.
#5

irdeggman

Dec 19, 2003 4:35:31
Its good to see that the valium is working.;)
#6

xlorepdarkhelm_dup

Dec 19, 2003 12:45:04
I was trying to be nice. I wasn't trying to insult the original poster.
#7

zombiegleemax

Dec 19, 2003 16:33:20
Actually, my friend just received his latest issue of Dragon magazine, and in the "From the Editor" article it states that WOTC will be releasing the Dark Sun Campaign Setting 3.5 immediately following the revised Psionics Handbook, May of 2004. This actually says they are releasing an actual product, not just what Dragon is publishing in their magazine. The magazine material is supposed to be a preview of the product from what I can tell.
#8

jihun-nish

Dec 19, 2003 17:03:58
Originally posted by Tembo-Pie
Actually, my friend just received his latest issue of Dragon magazine, and in the "From the Editor" article it states that WOTC will be releasing the Dark Sun Campaign Setting 3.5 immediately following the revised Psionics Handbook, May of 2004. This actually says they are releasing an actual product, not just what Dragon is publishing in their magazine. The magazine material is supposed to be a preview of the product from what I can tell.

And which one is it #315 or 316???
#9

zombiegleemax

Dec 19, 2003 17:39:39
Originally posted by Jihun-Nish
And which one is it #315 or 316???

I believe it is #315 as #316 does not ship to subscribers until January 2004.
#10

heretic_apostate

Dec 19, 2003 22:06:56
Originally posted by Tembo-Pie
in the "From the Editor" article it states that WOTC will be releasing the Dark Sun Campaign Setting 3.5 immediately following the revised Psionics Handbook, May of 2004.

Huh... It's not in the product list.

01/2004: Deluxe DM's Screen, Deluxe Character Sheets, D&D Miniatures Dragoneye expansion pack

02/2004: Unearthed Arcana, Firepower (unknown setting), d20Modern Weapons Locker

03/2004: Geonosis and the Outer Rim Worlds, Forgotten Realms: Player's Guide to Faerun, D&D Miniatures Archfiends expansion pack

04/2004: Expanded Psionics Handbook, D&D Map Folio 1

05/2004: Complete Divine

06/2004: Eberron Campaign Setting, D&D Miniatures Giants of Legend expansion pack, Star Wars Ultimate Adversaries

07/2004: Serpent Kingdoms (FR), Player's Guide to the Planes, Eberron: Shadows of the Last War, Races of Stone (dwarves/gnomes)

08/2004: d20 Future, D&D Map Folio 2, Star Wars Miniatures entry pack, Star Wars Miniatures expansion pack

Thirty Years of Adventure: A Celebration of D&D (autumn/fall of 2004)

D&D Basic Set (???) (autumn/fall of 2004)

Waterdeep (autumn/fall of 2005)

I admit, there's a lot of room at the end of 2004, so it might fit in there...
#11

xlorepdarkhelm_dup

Dec 20, 2003 2:41:56
It will be released though the magazine "Dragon" or "Dungeon" or something. From the looks of things, there most likely won't be information from the athas.org website, or from the work the .org team put into making it work for the last handful of years. Yay WotC.
#12

zombiegleemax

Dec 20, 2003 2:48:37
Umm so they are releasing real product now? That sorta came out of left field. Either its a kick in the teeth to everyone here or a reason to celebrate. I dont think I can decide which
#13

xlorepdarkhelm_dup

Dec 20, 2003 10:43:01
There's already 4 other topics in these forums discussing this situation, your arguements and questions are both talked about, in detail, through these topics. Three of these were still on the front page of this very forum at the time of my posting, the other one was near the top of the 2nd page.

Proposal Regarding Dragon/Dungeon and Athas.org

New Dark Sun material in Dragon 315!

Defiling in Dragon #315

Dark Sun 3.5, by David Noonan in Dragon and Dungeon?
#14

dawnstealer

Dec 20, 2003 12:06:32
So... is 3.5 going to be released or not?!!


:invasion:

Kidding, Xlor. Kidding.
#15

zombiegleemax

Dec 20, 2003 12:13:35
YES it is... In Dragon Magazine #315 on page 6, it specifically states that the DarkSun Campaign setting will be released in May of 2004 in the 3.5 version...
#16

zombiegleemax

Dec 20, 2003 17:13:20
YES it is... In Dragon Magazine #315 on page 6, it specifically states that the DarkSun Campaign setting will be released in May of 2004 in the 3.5 version...

Indeed, it will be released. See the relevant threads that Xlore has posted. It will come as either a series of articles in Dragon Magazine, or as a full fledged Dragon/Dungeon mag (and maybe Polyhedrion) blowout, similar the recent Incursion effort. It will NOT be released as a full in print series of core books, adventures, supplements, etc. Only articles in Dragon, Dungeon, Polywhatsit, and of course, Athas.org.
#17

zombiegleemax

Dec 21, 2003 2:32:30
Well if you ask me thats a whole lot different than releasing books and such. I suppose theres only so much damage that can be done by a single issue of dragon. I imagine the real hardcore fans (i.e. us) will still use athas.org as long as they are good enough to keep it going.
#18

zerpentor

Dec 21, 2003 2:57:38
I for one love the work Athas.org has done and I have no reason to switch to the Dragon releases.

my players love the DS 3.5 release that the atha.org has released and I am just amazed by the Terrors from the Deadlands and City-state of Draj releases too.

as i see it the Dragon mag DS stuff is no threat at all and will most likely just be absorbed into the .org releases
#19

zombiegleemax

Dec 21, 2003 5:44:37
While I'm certainly not one to gripe about the work of Athas.org (or at least, not much anyway), I'm glad that David Noonan is working on the articles. It will provide those who don't like the Athas.org conversion (of which there are actually noteworthy amount) another option to explore beyond the crafting of their own personal conversion. As I've said before, I don't doubt that the articles will be of more than respectable quality, I still have this nagging in me that thinks they will wind up in a more generic or generalized fashion; more of a "how to use DS in your Forgotten Realms or Greyhawk campaign". Each to their own I guess, but I know full well that I'll cringe at the first mention of defiling Zhents or Mordenkainen as an avangion . . .
#20

zombiegleemax

Jan 04, 2004 15:03:48
It will be in Dragon and Dungeon mags. It will be done in a crossover thing like Incursion. That's how I understand it, at least.

I, for one, will still use the Athas.org stuff for the most part. What I am hopin is that things will be in those magazines that Athas.org has not covered at all.
#21

zombiegleemax

Jan 04, 2004 16:29:28
don't pass judgement until both have a 3.5 out.