I'm new here but I've followed most of the threats for a while.
I'm going to run a campaign two years before Kalak falls.
I've read the german translation of the Prism Pentad although it had only been released the first three ones splitted in six. I guess it's the thrid book when Dhojakt appears as Prince of Nibenay, but it's seems to me, that this is the only source he's mentioned, even houres of searching didn't give me more information. As he is/was the Prince of Nibenay, I think he must be mentioned at least somewhere else. Does anyone of you more about Dhojakt and can give me some more background information?
To the best of my knowledge he was only presented in the Amber Enchantress and briefly mentioned in Ivory Triangle accessory. In my story hour I run at another site I used him. The timing would be about when you want to. (2-3 yrs before Freedom).
To run him, I used a defiler and the insectoid template from Savage Species with a slight modification to better fit a cylops instead of a standard insect or centipede. I think I set him to be a CR of 12 but am uncertain at this moment and time.
and briefly mentioned in Ivory Triangle accessory.
I must have overlooked those five lines.
The timing would be about when you want to. (2-3 yrs before Freedom).
Actually this is exactly the time I want to run my Campaign.
Thanks. At least I know that he is mentioned somewhere else.
I was a lttle bit confused as I read a text about Siemhouk in the Veiled Alliance. There she's the one who appears in public and Dhojakt isn't even mentioned. Whatever, I'll put Dhojakt in charge until he's dead. It would also look very strange if 11 or 12 year old girl appears as the highest representative of the city.
Originally posted by Bengeldorn
I must have overlooked those five lines.
I doubt it was even that much!
Originally posted by megamania
I doubt it was even that much!
I've counted them, but the information is worth less than three.
Originally posted by Sean Dickson
Why not Tauric from mmII
Yes, that's what I'm doing right now.
He'll be a Tauric Human-Cilop Template, based on the Cilops conversion of The World of the Crimson Sun with some changes being a bit more like a Centipedis.
This is what I've so far:
Large Mounstrous Humanoid
HD: 16d8 +48 (120 hp)[5d8 Cilop/ 11d8 Wizard (defiling)]
Speed: 40ft. / climb 40ft.
Base Attack/Grapple: +15/+23
Space Reach: 10ft./5ft.
AC: 17 (+4 natural, -1 size, +4 DEX)
Saves: +13 Fort, +14 Ref, +11 Will
Abilities: Str 19, Dex 19, Con 17, Int 17, Wis 12, Cha 8
Skills: Spellcraft 20, Concentration 19, Search 19, Spot 19, Climb 18
Feats: Improved Scent (B), Uncanny Scent [Both of Savage Species]
I think it over, wether I should add some levels as Fighter and/or Psion, orPsyW. In addition I think that he should get some SR and/or DR.
Am open to suggestions and/or improvements.
I've got a version (a conservative one) of the Cilops monster entry in DS v3.5 and I've built a character entry for Dhojakt based on the Tauric template, helped with a little visit to the Pristine Tower...
Its a 134ko pdf document. Would you like to see it?
I'd like to compare it to what you've done if possible.
Pennarin :D
Should he get templar levels, even though only women in Nibenay are templars?
Originally posted by Pennarin
Should he get templar levels, even though only women in Nibenay are templars?
According to 3.5 material anyone can take levels in the templar core class.
It's the PrCs that will be designed later for Nibenay that will only be accessible for females if I remember correctly.
Originally posted by NytCrawlr
According to 3.5 material anyone can take levels in the templar core class.
It's the PrCs that will be designed later for Nibenay that will only be accessible for females if I remember correctly.
Yeah, that's about the plan.
The only answer I got was an automatically sent attached file (a virus is what it seams) that I deleted, twice.
Thus, I'm posting the letter here to get a response from flip that wont fry my computer :D (I know you didn't sent those attachments, flip
)I'm officially petitionning for review of my rendition of classic DS characters from the accessories and novels, for the upcoming aptly named ''Faces of Athas''.
Whenever preliminary review and discussion of the material accumulated goes on, I only wish some of my character write-ups are in the pile for considerations.
It may be that athas.org will make a general call on the boards for characters and that I should wait and refine up to the time of that call, or it may be that only a small fraction of the ''Faces of Athas'' document will contain entries from the public and the sooner I submit the better.
Please let me know the rules of the game...
Originally posted by Pennarin
Here is a letter I sent to flip.
The only answer I got was an automatically sent attached file (a virus is what it seams) that I deleted, twice.
Thus, I'm posting the letter here to get a response from flip that wont fry my computer :D (I know you didn't sent those attachments, flip
... Well, seeing as I did send you two responses ... I'll have to dig up my reply when I get home.
However, nearly every email I send out does have an attachment that's likely look like gibberish to most of you. I PGP sign<1><2> my messages. Without a mailer (or plugin for your mailer) that understands PGP it'll look like gibberish. Typically, they'll show up as a two part MIME message, the first is text/plain with no description, the second is application/pgp-signature.
If you use a non-randomly-guessable subject line when you mail me personally and a response came back with the same subject, it's highly unlikely that it's an outlook worm<3>, because my Email never even sees a windows machine, let alone stops at one.
... Sorry for all the technobabble folks. Tripping across my day-job, is all.
<1> http://www.gnupg.org/ or http://www.pgp.com/
<2> If you're interested, my public key is available at http://meteu.octoraro.org/public.asc
... when the stupid cable modem is working, which it isn't at the moment.
<3> call a spade a spade. These things are propgating through holes and insecurities in OutLook -- there's nothing particularly specific to email about them. Leave it to Microsoft to make Good-Times a reality.
Personally, I'm getting my mail server up and running (I broke postfix again), and I use a non-windows machine for all my e-mail. Hard to get a virus when the virus can't even run.
Originally posted by Pennarin
I'm officially petitionning for review of my rendition of classic DS characters from the accessories and novels, for the upcoming aptly named ''Faces of Athas''.
Whenever preliminary review and discussion of the material accumulated goes on, I only wish some of my character write-ups are in the pile for considerations.
It may be that athas.org will make a general call on the boards for characters and that I should wait and refine up to the time of that call, or it may be that only a small fraction of the ''Faces of Athas'' document will contain entries from the public and the sooner I submit the better.
Please let me know the rules of the game...
Hey flip, where is your answer to that!
We (at least me) are interested in knowing if you accept entries for all these NPCs. That would safe you time. It could be part of a net project officialized by athas.org.I was actually going to start that soon for my website while I work on the Villichi project and have them there.
If this is a project that I can get on athas.org with, then I would much rather do it that way.
I guess I can continue to do it and post to my site and send what you like, kinda like the whole monsters thing, heh.
There.
Feel better.
Now flip, I got to opening your email on my Windows machine, thank you everyone ;), and this is information best shared with everyone.
flip said:
Essentially, what I want for Faces of Athas is less of a product and more of an ongoing, growing resource ... which means that it will never have a "final release" PDF made (though "snapshots" may be made from time to time) ... instead I'm envisioning a continually growing section of the website that serves as a resource.
And by growing, I mean that I would like it to be mostly populated by fan submissions.
The, in my opinion, crucial thing here, is will the posted creations be tweaked by the character pros at athas.org for all those small and not so small problems that always arise in amateur character write-ups? I do hope so. If not balance problems could arise...or 20 variations on Rikus (bhla..).
Example, my character of Dhojakt is perfect, except a +10 inherent bonus to Str should be made +5. How will it get changed?
Maybe there should be two piles of write-ups: one to be reviewed and the other of what as been made canon (i.e. only one Rikus, thank you). Or we'll all use different Rikus in our campaings. It could cause problems.
Originally posted by Pennarin
The, in my opinion, crucial thing here, is will the posted creations be tweaked by the character pros at athas.org for all those small and not so small problems that always arise in amateur character write-ups? I do hope so. If not balance problems could arise...or 20 variations on Rikus (bhla..).
Absolutely ... once submitted, we have full editorial control over the character, in order to fix problems, make updates and the like (indicating which characters know each other was supposed to be one of the original ideas of all this)
Couple of things though: This is not intended to be a repository for conversions of existing characters -- we want new fellows, for the most part. Conversions of the NPCs listed in, say, City State of Tyr are fine and welcome -- until one is accepted. I'm not really interested in never ending "conversion bake-off" events.
And, sorry folks, but no iconics. Those are for us to deal with.
... I hadn't really intended on tipping my hand on FoA just yet, as there's some site infrastructure type stuff I'm muddling through at the moment, which I wanted to get done first ... of course, I'm never really done with the site muddling (a lot of the code never actually gets published. I have this "scrap it and start from scratch" inclination that I really need to learn to suppress...)
As for I, I intend on seeing my Dhojakt write-up in the official pile.
It's been waiting in its folder for quite some time. Except for some things...
...that continuously seem to change from one released version of DS3 to another, like Secular Authority feats...
...or those things that were so cool but dissapeared without leaving an explanation behind, like Arcane Orbs (Spell Orbs, Potion Orbs and the Craft Arcane Orb feat)...
,then the character is complete. :D
And as for the fact that:
Originally posted by NytCrawlr
According to 3.5 material anyone can take levels in the templar core class.
It's the PrCs that will be designed later for Nibenay that will only be accessible for females if I remember correctly.
,it is still Nibenay himself that elevates someone to the state of templar, and if he chooses only females, then the Dhojakt character shouldn't have templar levels. At least thats my reasoning for not giving him any.
Originally posted by Pennarin
And as for the fact that:
,it is still Nibenay himself that elevates someone to the state of templar, and if he chooses only females, then the Dhojakt character shouldn't have templar levels. At least thats my reasoning for not giving him any.
Despite all of that, I can't see Dhojakt as a templar anyways, core or otherwise.
So not giving him templar levels is a good thing, I would much prefer to see some defiler levels if you are going to give him any spell-casting levels.
Btw, do you have a website to post your version of Dhojakt to? If not I can post it to mine for you and get my NPC section started off, plus I would like to see your version anyways.
Originally posted by Pennarin
...or those things that were so cool but dissapeared without leaving an explanation behind, like Arcane Orbs (Spell Orbs, Potion Orbs and the Craft Arcane Orb feat)...
They're alternative containers for potions. Look closely at the Brew Potion feat description.
Planescape's Faces of Sigil was a pretty damn cool product. What was really cool was the character web that showed how the various characters were connected. One thing you guys might want to do is include something like that - have each character have some (possibly tenuous) connection to some other character in the file. A big opportunity for six degrees of separation?
Originally posted by Dawnstealer
A big opportunity for six degrees of separation?
As long as it doesn't become the "Kevin Bacon" six degrees of seperation, I'm all for it. :D
As long as it doesn't become the "Kevin Bacon" six degrees of seperation, I'm all for it
Kevin Bacon is my all time idol. How dare you mock his glorious and prestigeous acting career. He should have gotten an emmy for that flick.
Anywho, I'm glad your not taking submissions for iconics (could care less if they were in there since I kill them all of rather quickly in my campaigns), but how about conversion requests? I'm no good with the numbers game and all (my NPCs are rarely fully fleshed out mechanically by the book), but there are quite a few NPCs from the books that I think should be must-haves for any DS campaign, NPCs that would not otherwise make it into a newcomers game without him or her buying all umpteen downloads. The Patchwork Man, Wheelock and his trusty aid, i.e. some of the more interesting NPCs featured through out the setting. Also, would you accept submissions bereft of stats?
Originally posted by flip
They're alternative containers for potions. Look closely at the Brew Potion feat description.
Yes flip, but there is still some descriptive info missing at the end of the feat, because what of the newbie that wasen't there for the release of the Enchanted Fruits and Arcane Orbs article on athas.org, how can he know that you're supposed to crush the orbs, not swallow them? After all, all that a newbie has to go on at that point that is even remotely related to orbs is what's found in Dragon Kings and Defilers and Preservers.
Originally posted by NytCrawlr
Btw, do you have a website to post your version of Dhojakt to? If not I can post it to mine for you and get my NPC section started off, plus I would like to see your version anyways.
I've got no website of my own, even if my machine could take it, being a server and all, I wouldn't know how to do even a half-a** job with the graphics...
But yes, I would really like it if your site could host the character.
I have one paragraph describing him, but I didn't bend backward at all trying to write one. So I guess that part could be severly improved. But I guess most of it will be done by athas.org people no matter what I write. And it could be a good thing in my case.
We could ask xlorep if he could host the future FoA trials since he got a new shinny boards
that won't be cluttered with a zillion posts.Originally posted by Mach2.5
Anywho, I'm glad your not taking submissions for iconics (could care less if they were in there since I kill them all of rather quickly in my campaigns), but how about conversion requests? I'm no good with the numbers game and all (my NPCs are rarely fully fleshed out mechanically by the book), but there are quite a few NPCs from the books that I think should be must-haves for any DS campaign, NPCs that would not otherwise make it into a newcomers game without him or her buying all umpteen downloads. The Patchwork Man, Wheelock and his trusty aid, i.e. some of the more interesting NPCs featured through out the setting. Also, would you accept submissions bereft of stats?
I'm all for doing them either way.
Something I have been planning over the last month or so to keep me busy at work while I work on villichi at home, etc.
Besides, villichi is going to be a long project, I can already tell.
Re-reading the Sorak trilogy now.
Originally posted by Pennarin
We could ask xlorep if he could host the future FoA trials since he got a new shinny boards
That's no problem for me
Where in "The Ivory Triangle" is the blurb for Dhojakt located? Just curious because I don't recall him being in that book...
Thanks!
«Dhojakt, a horrible beast that appeared to be half man and half cilops, is recognized as the Prince of Nibenay. He recently disappeared from public view after driving a defiler from the city. It is not known whether he has left the city to attend to his father's business, or whether he is simply spending his time in the palace»
Originally posted by Pennarin
Its a 134ko pdf document. Would you like to see it?
I'd like to compare it to what you've done if possible.
Sorry that I didn't answered earlier, but I had a lot of work to do.
I've seen your version of on crimson sun and my fisrt thought was, STR is a to high but reading the book again it was mentioned that he must be stronger than a giant, so it's ok.
I'm very interested in the King’s Defiler PrC, where is it from and how can I have a look on it?
I haven't finished my version yet, but I'll take some of yours as inspiration. :D
If you are still interrested in my version than I'll send it to you.
Originally posted by Bengeldorn
If you are still interrested in my version than I'll send it to you.
Sure. Send it to my email.
[email]lexus@cgocable.ca[/email]