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#1 dawnstealer Jan 07, 2004 22:41:40	Remade my web page. Right now, no page will leave you stranded. Hopefully by this weekend, clicking on those little pics will call up the larger pick of the monster, weapon, or whatever. Right now, the goal is just to get the layout right and make sure that every space has a picture and not one of those obnoxious boxes with a red "x" in it. In the coming weeks, I'll update on this post every time I add a new pic. For those of you who don't know, I did the monsters in the monster manual and plan on making as many of the rest of our favorite (and maybe not so favorite ~ Sitak, Weezer, etc) critters of the wastes. Feedback is always welcomed, so let me know what you think. Once the monster pics are accessible (should be this weekend, I swear!), let me know what you think of the monsters. Did I hit it on the mark? Did I blow it? Let me know. I should warn you that my style is a little different from Baxa's, so you might need to adjust to the different look of some critters. Here's the link: Mike's Site It is heavy on the graphics. After all, it's an art page. Enjoy.
#2 jihun-nish Jan 07, 2004 22:59:02	I cant wait.....
#3 nytcrawlr Jan 08, 2004 20:51:32	ALOT better, though some of those pages are a little too dark for my tastes, but no biggie. Great job!
#4 dawnstealer Jan 08, 2004 21:46:16	Links to all "Wanderer's Journal" monsters are now working. You might recognize a LOT of these drawings, but a few should be new. I figure to have the rest of the pics up shortly now that I have a template made. Monsters that are "active" and can be viewed: Anakore, Beasthead Giant, Belgoi, Braxat, Erdlu, Gaj, Gith, Desert Giant, Inix, Jozhal, Kank, Mekillot, Silk Wyrm, and Tembo.
#5 dawnstealer Jan 08, 2004 21:52:04	Chronical Monsters are up (not too impressive because there's only two of them): Baazrag and Plains Giant. While the Baazrag was not technically a Chronical Critter, I didn't want the plains giant all by himself.
#6 dawnstealer Jan 08, 2004 22:32:46	All thumbnailed monsters from Terrors of the Desert now up, and more on the way before the weekend. New: Household Animals, Herd Animals, Antloids, Agony Beetle, Boneclaw, Bogwader, Brambleweed, B'rohg, Burnflower, Psionic Cats, Cha' Thrang, Crodlu, and Banshee. Finished but not yet posted: Cistern Fiend, Cloud Ray, All Drakes, Dune Runner, Dune Trapper, and all Greater Elementals.
#7 zombiegleemax Jan 09, 2004 0:36:36	That was a good page, until it started to fail on me (damnedable geocities). That world you have up on top of the Dark Sun page wouldn't be Athas would it? Have you ever done Paleo Art? Permian/Triassic creatures are very Dark Sun like. The best creature art I can do it the three color method, 2D (light on top, normal color in the middle and a darker shade on the bottom). I have drawn a few armored fish (fish with bone plates).
#8 zombiegleemax Jan 09, 2004 0:40:56	That was a good page, until it started to fail on me (damnedable geocities). That world you have up on top of the Dark Sun page wouldn't be Athas would it? Have you ever done Paleo Art? Permian/Triassic creatures are very Dark Sun like. The best creature art I can do it the three color method, 2D (light on top, normal color in the middle and a darker shade on the bottom). I have drawn a few armored fish (fish with bone plates).
#9 dawnstealer Jan 09, 2004 0:50:48	A little paleo art, but most of it came from drawing weird critters for a large portion of my life (a college roommate had a sizeable iguana, too, but it wasn't a very good model). Yar, I noticed I passed the limit with geocities. That's all right: I figure in a month or so to have my own server up and running again, then it won't matter what Geocities does.
#10 dawnstealer Jan 09, 2004 10:02:18	Coins for the seven cities of the Tablelands are up. I have no descriptions for the northern cities, so let's hear some ideas.
#11 Kamelion Jan 09, 2004 12:24:12	That's some great work there, Dawnstealer. Can't wait to see the words and pictures together M.
#12 dawnstealer Jan 09, 2004 12:39:16	Uh- oh, did I blow a title or link? Which one?
#13 Nefal Jan 09, 2004 13:33:03	WONDERFUL! I like the way you draw and I enjoy to see your further pictures! Nefal
#14 Grummore Jan 09, 2004 14:37:17	Originally posted by Dawnstealer Uh- oh, did I blow a title or link? Which one? hum, the weapons pictures have no link to the bigger pictures.
#15 dawnstealer Jan 09, 2004 14:56:05	Haven't had a chance to upload them yet, but they're coming either tonight or tomorrow. The coins were the last pics uploaded. Had to toss in the towel last night at around 2:00am.
#16 dawnstealer Jan 10, 2004 1:47:41	All 35 weapons are up and active.
#17 zombiegleemax Jan 10, 2004 2:12:50	Originally posted by Dawnstealer Chronical Monsters are up (not too impressive because there's only two of them): (snip) Excellent site, Dawnstealer. Thanks for sharing your art. PS: It's "chronicLE" rather than "chronicAL".
#18 zombiegleemax Jan 10, 2004 5:53:38	With so many graphics eating up your transfer allotments, you may want to look at either getting a better allocation from yahoo/geocities (yuck!) or spreading some of the stuff over a few free servers. I got about halfway through the pics (which are very nicely done btw) before your bandwidth got exceeded.
#19 dawnstealer Jan 10, 2004 10:39:30	PS: It's "chronicLE" rather than "chronicAL". Crap. That's what I get for typing when I'm tired. Right you are. With so many graphics eating up your transfer allotments, you may want to look at either getting a better allocation from yahoo/geocities (yuck!) or spreading some of the stuff over a few free servers. I got about halfway through the pics (which are very nicely done btw) before your bandwidth got exceeded. Yeah, I'm aware of geocities "limitations." The plan's to shift it over to my own server in the near future, just need to get it up and running first. Goecities' a good holding place, but just lacks the horsepower to do it any justice. And no, no there are not any plans to upgrade to one of the overpriced "services" that geo has. Did you know they charge you if you exceed your download allotment? They also don't have to tell you that you're over. Good stuff. Promise to move the site eventually to a much better service once I get the chance. Actually, anyone out there know a good service?
#20 dawnstealer Jan 10, 2004 13:10:35	Okay, provided geocities will let you... ...you should be able to check out 12 more monster drawings. I think I stated it before, but I'm going alphabetically and page-by-page, so these are the next down in "Terrors of the Desert." This group includes four of my favorites, which I've bolded below. Cistern Fiend, Cloud Ray, Air Drake, Earth Drake, Fire Drake, Water Drake, Dune Runner, Dune Trapper, Greater Air Elemental, Greater Earth Elemental, Greater Fire Elemental, and Greater Water Elemental. Enjoy! This is all the drawings I currently have finished, so the updates will start slowing down, now. I figure to finish about one a day and update when I have five. Again, any constructive criticism is appreciated. Athas guys: you want the pics, save away. That goes for anyone else, too.
#21 nytcrawlr Jan 10, 2004 23:08:14	Originally posted by Dawnstealer Actually, anyone out there know a good service? If you get a domain name, I can add you in as another hosted site of rmy freebie account at work, which gets about a gig storage space betwen my site and yours. Can't remember the bandwidth size, but its pretty high. Save you some bucks for awhile until you find a better place more to your liking, or whatever. Email me if you want to talk more about this.
#22 dawnstealer Jan 11, 2004 22:32:44	Should have my server up and running. I'm building a new computer first, though, and most of the stuff should be here by Wednesday. Getting the server up and running will be a project for next weekend. As for new pics, Lesser Fire, Water, Earth, and Air elemental picks are up. Might redo Earth and Air at some point, but I'm pretty happy with Fire and Water.
#23 dawnstealer Jan 12, 2004 0:00:56	Productive night: Finished the Erdland while watching Alias.
#24 dawnstealer Jan 13, 2004 8:12:48	Quick show of hands here (well, you know what I mean): This is thinking a little ahead, but I was thinking of making the monsters of "Terrors Beyond Tyr" in color. What do y'all think? Color takes longer, but can look better. Consistency or color?
#25 nytcrawlr Jan 13, 2004 8:17:40	Originally posted by Dawnstealer Quick show of hands here (well, you know what I mean): This is thinking a little ahead, but I was thinking of making the monsters of "Terrors Beyond Tyr" in color. What do y'all think? Color takes longer, but can look better. Consistency or color? If I had to sacrifice consistency for color, I would take consistency any day, color is overrated sometimes IMO. If you had the time to do both, that would be cool, or maybe do color down the road, but I would rather have consistency if I had a choice. Just my 2 ceramic. Hell, you're worth more than that, I'll give you 2 silver instead! :D
#26 dawnstealer Jan 14, 2004 0:01:48	Well, since it was a vote of one, you win, Nyt! No color for now. Consistency it is. I will use the silver to purchase ...um, something cool. As for the site, Esperweed is up. Against my better judgement and usual artistic habits, I included a hottie in this pic. Enjoy.
#27 zombiegleemax Jan 14, 2004 6:13:34	Maybe its just my eyes, but I thought they were in color . . . Anyhow, great job so far. Keep em coming. (edit) Wooohooo! I like the hottie *drool*
#28 nytcrawlr Jan 14, 2004 11:46:20	Damn sexy...
#29 dawnstealer Jan 15, 2004 19:52:45	Alrighty, folks, Flailer's up. Yup, nothing like being eaten by a large, six-legged turtle. Flailer
#30 Kamelion Jan 16, 2004 2:38:35	These pics are just great, Dawnstealer - they have this eerie quality that reminds me of some of the very cool old Planescape art. Those drakes rule, and your cistern fiend is far better than the original. Nice one!
#31 dawnstealer Jan 16, 2004 8:02:34	Heh, it comes from reading the description before I draw the monster. As for Planescape, a lot of my fantasy art is influenced strongly by diTerlizzi, Brom, and others, so the simularity to Planescape isn't accidental. Tony's just a great artist.
#32 Kamelion Jan 16, 2004 8:20:52	Yeah, there's definitely a little of that DiTerlizzi waif-like thing going on there ;) But then, your braxat is something different again - all solid fur and muscle - nice contrast. I love the texturing on that one. I'd be especially looking forward to seeing the dune reaper, sand howler and the high drik (especially as there was no pic for that one in 2e) - are you planning to do those too? They always stick in my mind as some of the oddest-looking so it'd be neat to see them given your treatment...
#33 dawnstealer Jan 16, 2004 8:26:16	Yep, they're coming. I'm basically going in order, so it's Wanderer's Journal (which was already drawn for the 3e version), Wanderer's Chronical (some where already drawn), Terrors of the Desert (what you see now - most drawn on a beach in Hawaii), Terrors beyond Tyr (containin the critters you mentioned - not started yet), then all the little places where monsters are located (supplements, etc).
#34 dawnstealer Jan 16, 2004 19:41:49	Two postings to report. The first is that the Floater drawing is finished and now up here. Due to popular demand, I have also posted my map of Athas. Please keep in mind that this is a rough sketch. The idea was to put continents in the correct place (although not necessarily in the right scale, in my opinion). Once you see the map, you'll see what I mean. A little explanation is needed for the map, because it might look kind of strange. It is meant to be a skin wrapped around a 3D sphere, so the quarter and the bottom quarter are very stretched. Please keep this in mind. Here it is: Athas Skin
#35 dawnstealer Jan 20, 2004 8:20:51	Rock, Obsidian, Chitin, and Ash golems are up. Sand and wood are sketched, but not inked, yet. Should be up this afternoon. Here's the link to the first new page (I've seen that this cuts down on people getting booted out): Ash & Chitin Golems
#36 dawnstealer Jan 21, 2004 23:31:05	Sand and wood golems are done and are here. Renegade Halflings are coming along, but I want them to look right, so I'm taking my time. Should be pretty cool (I hope).
#37 korvar Jan 22, 2004 4:22:35	Astounding pics . It's nice we now have pics done now of so many monsters and weapons - we no longer need to rely on scans from the old WoTC supplements If I had to offer a criticism - and I presumably do, otherwise I wouldn't have written that ;) - some of the weapons - like the Forarm Axe and the Turtle Blade - don't make sense out of context. It's not obvious how they'd actually be used, without a pic of someone using the darn things... Having said that, the pics of them "unfolded" are also very cool. And I like the coins, too! Good work! More! :bounce: :D
#38 dawnstealer Jan 22, 2004 21:47:37	One of my favorites so far: Renegade Halfling.
#39 nytcrawlr Jan 22, 2004 21:54:16	Originally posted by Dawnstealer One of my favorites so far: Renegade Halfling. Damn that's good.
#40 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Jan 22, 2004 22:02:02	As others have said, I am only repeating, yet I don't know of a single artist which doesn't like to hear this: awesome work.
#41 zombiegleemax Jan 24, 2004 20:58:39	Originally posted by Dawnstealer Due to popular demand, I have also posted my map of Athas. Please keep in mind that this is a rough sketch. The idea was to put continents in the correct place (although not necessarily in the right scale, in my opinion). Once you see the map, you'll see what I mean. A little explanation is needed for the map, because it might look kind of strange. It is meant to be a skin wrapped around a 3D sphere, so the quarter and the bottom quarter are very stretched. Please keep this in mind. Here it is: Athas Skin I like the colors. For by Edge of Athas map, I had to make several copies because the Dark Sun Stoney Barrens color and silt color did not come out right. Your map, however, seemed kind of barren, with nothing else outhere by desert pavement and silt (which may very well be the case). Most of the Sorceror Kings were originally from cities in the Tyr region. It strikes me as odd that somehow, the center of the Cleansing War would be a lush garden compared to the rest of Athas. If the Tyr region somehow faired better off than the rest of Athas, it would be sheer luck. If I were to guess, I would say each region is similar to regions around Tyr, with one heavily populated region, such as the Tyr region, for every four or five sparsly populated regions (Jagged Cliffs, the lands north of the Tyr region, the south etc.). There would be roughly one city-state per region with more clustered around fertile areas such as the Tyr region.
#42 dawnstealer Jan 24, 2004 22:50:51	Actually, the continents are intentionally barren: I haven't had a chance to go in and fill them out, yet. Basically, all that map is is conjecture on the other continental formations on Athas. Oh, hej kin's up.
#43 dawnstealer Jan 29, 2004 19:50:38	I to take a few days off so that I could ready myself for teaching a class. Class is taught, back to monsters. Id fiend and insect swarm is up: Here
#44 dawnstealer Feb 04, 2004 21:47:07	Wild Kank is up. Kirre is coming soon, but I'm hunting for my damn good markers. Dammit.
#45 nytcrawlr Feb 04, 2004 23:10:57	Sweet! Wish you would put your website as a link in your sig though you damn non-comformist, hehe. Great job as always man.
#46 dawnstealer Feb 05, 2004 12:55:15	I have it in my profile - is it not showing up? Finished the Kirre at work today, so I'll be posting that tonight. Went pen-and-ink with it instead of markers, so it has a bit different feel. I like to do that with the furry critters. Unlike most of his monster art, I absolutely love Baxa's interpretation of this critter, so I tried to stay consistent with it. I'm thinking of doing the Athasian Sloth and Rasclinn the same way. Actually, that brings up a good point: how many people have actually used a Rasclinn in their campaign? I don't think I ever have. Just wondering.
#47 Kamelion Feb 05, 2004 13:07:46	We have a recurring rasclinn in our game called Scooby. No, really we do...
#48 dawnstealer Feb 05, 2004 13:33:37
#49 nytcrawlr Feb 05, 2004 13:53:16	Originally posted by Dawnstealer I have it in my profile - is it not showing up? Yeah, but better in your sig. :P Great job again man. Damn you rock!
#50 nytcrawlr Feb 05, 2004 13:54:43	Originally posted by Kamelion We have a recurring rasclinn in our game called Scooby. No, really we do... Are the scooby snacks metal laced treats too?
#51 dawnstealer Feb 05, 2004 14:26:01	Oh, crap. I get what you guys are saying now. Will add it in.
#52 nytcrawlr Feb 05, 2004 14:55:32	Woot! Good enough, heh.
#53 dawnstealer Feb 05, 2004 20:08:23	As promised, one of my favorites, the kirre, is up. Actually, a few of my favorites are coming up in the coming days: Megapede (needs to be inked, but layout complete), Nightmare Beast, and a few others are on their way. Promise I won't go with the "Bulldog with massive underbite" for the NB.
#54 Grummore Feb 05, 2004 22:05:30	Keep them coming!!! You... magical drawing machine! My players enjoy seeing what they actually try to kill hehehe. See that I said try MUhahahaha! :D
#55 Kamelion Feb 06, 2004 3:01:50	That's a great picture (yet again) - nice one. Looking forward to seeing the nightmare beast
#56 wintergreen Feb 06, 2004 6:19:28	"how many people have actually used a Rasclinn in their campaign? I don't think I ever have. Just wondering" In my game I have a local NPC druid nicknamed Rasclinn (because his wild talent produces metallic looking body armour) who has a rasclinn for an animal companion. They make quite a good team but I could never find a decent picture to show what a rasclinn looked like.
#57 dawnstealer Feb 12, 2004 8:20:25	Having lived in Hawaii, I have a certain affinity for this next critter. Centipedes are really, really nasty, if you haven't met one. Think of them as a long, many legged insect with four wasp stingers at the front. LARGE wasp stingers. That are poisonous. Making this critter mean wasn't hard. Here's the pic: megapede I'm switching gears, now; Nyt was nice enough to forward the ToA monster list to me, so I will begin drawing up the monster from the order on that list (skipping ones that are already done in one of the previous three sections). First up will be the Athasian Aarakocra.
#58 Kamelion Feb 12, 2004 9:28:20	Yet another great image! You never fail to impress, Dawnstealer - nice one I love the way these pictures are showing the creatures in perspective alongside regular-sized folks (the one of the giant dangling the struggling human above his open mouth always makes me smile) - they really convey the size of the things you're facing off against. Btw, what is the creature that is pulling the plough in the swarm picture? Kinda looks like an aprig without the shell - cute. The megapede reminds of this run-in I had with one of its relatives in Thailand this one time. I swear the little swine had DR 15/A Bigger Shoe.
#59 nytcrawlr Feb 12, 2004 14:08:38	Originally posted by Kamelion Yet another great image! You never fail to impress, Dawnstealer - nice one Amen. I love the way these pictures are showing the creatures in perspective alongside regular-sized folks (the one of the giant dangling the struggling human above his open mouth always makes me smile) - they really convey the size of the things you're facing off against. Agreed. When I first saw the giant one I couldn't help but laugh, I loved it, great depiction. The megapede reminds of this run-in I had with one of its relatives in Thailand this one time. I swear the little swine had DR 15/A Bigger Shoe. Sounds like some of the scorpions I dealt with down in Texas. The good thing about the ones I dealt with down there was there poison wasn't fatal, just strong enough to make you sick for a couple of days.
#60 Shei-Nad Feb 12, 2004 14:56:36	Originally posted by NytCrawlr Sounds like some of the scorpions I dealt with down in Texas. The good thing about the ones I dealt with down there was there poison wasn't fatal, just strong enough to make you sick for a couple of days. Yup, life sure is dam' good in good ol' Texas... ;)
#61 nytcrawlr Feb 12, 2004 15:06:54	Originally posted by Shei-Nad Yup, life sure is dam' good in good ol' Texas... ;) Not really, I want that 16 years of my life back...
#62 dawnstealer Feb 13, 2004 21:56:03	Something you won't find in Texas is one of these: Nightmare Beast So what do you guys think? Think the crawling guy will get away?
#63 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Feb 13, 2004 22:37:29	Nice, I like the way the Nightmare Beast looks there. Very imposing. And no, I doubt that the creature crawling away will get very far at all.
#64 nytcrawlr Feb 13, 2004 22:59:11	Awesome! Little skinnier representation then I was expecting, but I like it. Great work as always. My money is on the nightmare beast too.
#65 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Feb 13, 2004 23:11:56	Maybe that Nightmare Beast is umm.... very hungry (ie: starved)?
#66 dawnstealer Feb 13, 2004 23:44:26	Yeah, something that big on Athas would really be hungry just about all the time. I figure, when it did get to eat, it would really go to town.
#67 dawnstealer Mar 02, 2004 20:46:32	Hoo-WEE! Turn your back for a couple days and look how fast a thread drops. Got a few new pics for you guys. Athasian Aarakocra And also a sketch I did with a ball point pen during a meeting of a Dune Freak (I did the sketch during the meeting, we weren't meeting about a dune freak - just thought I'd clarify). There's another new pic there, too, but you'll just have to dig for it. :P
#68 nytcrawlr Mar 02, 2004 21:05:43	Originally posted by Dawnstealer There's another new pic there, too, but you'll just have to dig for it. :P ;)
#69 zombiegleemax Mar 03, 2004 0:05:29	Is that a sword, or are you just happy to see me?
#70 Kamelion Mar 03, 2004 4:09:25	"Look, Llyanus. You can see my house from here..." (Those pics are awesome, Dawnstealer. The aarakocra is one of your best yet - love the perspective!)
#71 nytcrawlr Mar 03, 2004 8:40:48	Originally posted by Mach2.5 Is that a sword, or are you just happy to see me? Both. /me scribbles a fast article on how Irikos was actually gay and only sacked Bodach cause his gay preserver lover broke up with him in a bad way.
#72 dawnstealer Mar 03, 2004 11:33:43	The other guy's helmet doubles as a tickler...
#73 dawnstealer Mar 04, 2004 20:06:07	Aviarag's up. Frankly, I always liked these critters as I seem to remember that they are the ONLY neutral good critter on the whole of the planet. Poor bastards. Tried to do them justice. Nyt, included a well-armored Villichi just for you.
#74 nytcrawlr Mar 05, 2004 21:21:28	Originally posted by Dawnstealer Nyt, included a well-armored Villichi just for you. Ok. Is it with the aviarag?
#75 dawnstealer Mar 05, 2004 22:10:02	Yup. It's that chick right up front (babes loved to be called "chicks." So do dames...maybe I should stop).
#76 nytcrawlr Mar 05, 2004 22:47:57	Originally posted by Dawnstealer Yup. It's that chick right up front (babes loved to be called "chicks." So do dames...maybe I should stop). LOL, depends on the woman, heh. Regardless, good pic.
#77 zombiegleemax Mar 07, 2004 14:51:54	well, I have entered your site before, and it is auperb. you catch the dark sun flavor very close to what I think of it myself. can I download the photos from there? (I will use it in my dark sun campaign).
#78 dawnstealer Mar 07, 2004 22:49:57	Go right ahead - that's why they're there. If you toss them in a book, give me credit, but I'm assuming most people using the pics are just DMs looking for DS art.
#79 dawnstealer Mar 09, 2004 22:29:55	Blacktouched is up.
#80 nytcrawlr Mar 09, 2004 22:46:27	Originally posted by Dawnstealer Blacktouched is up.
#81 Kamelion Mar 10, 2004 2:14:57	Wow, sweet I like his emaciated look and the Spooky Smoky Stuff around him. Nice one.
#82 dawnstealer Mar 16, 2004 22:19:06	Went away for the weekend on a roadtrip to Montana. Came back and realized that I hadn't done one sketch. The solution? Do a sketch. The first question you may ask is this: 1) How do you make grass scary? The second question might be this: 2) Is that a tentacle going in his eye?! Yes. Yes it is.
#83 nytcrawlr Mar 16, 2004 22:25:14	Originally posted by Dawnstealer Went away for the weekend on a roadtrip to Montana. Came back and realized that I hadn't done one sketch. The solution? Do a sketch. The first question you may ask is this: 1) How do you make grass scary? The second question might be this: 2) Is that a tentacle going in his eye?! Yes. Yes it is. Dood! Where's my bloodgrass? I mean that rocks! Got to be one of your better ones yet.
#84 Kamelion Mar 17, 2004 2:11:09	Awesome. Simply awesome.
#85 methvezem Mar 17, 2004 8:59:15	Now that's a plant worthy of its name :D
#86 dawnstealer Mar 20, 2004 0:16:08	Here. Have some bloodvine.
#87 Pennarin Mar 20, 2004 3:26:56	Hey Mike, I just realised I never cheered you for those drawings. With them DS3 will reach a new level of professionalism. Can't wait for all those official documents in full regalia! Cheers!! :D
#88 zombiegleemax Mar 20, 2004 5:36:05	Abolutely brilliant artwork, every single one of them. :OMG! P.
#89 dawnstealer Mar 20, 2004 11:04:33	If geocities lets you load all of them, I'll be amazed. The problem with art pages combined with free web pages is that your download is severely limited. One of these days, I'll move it over to a "real" web page.
#90 korvar Mar 20, 2004 11:16:17	How much space does your art site take up? I've spare on my site...
#91 dawnstealer Mar 20, 2004 13:45:34	That's a good question. Lemme check... ...Looks like it's a whopping 9.8mbs. If you want to mirror it, you're welcome to.
#92 dawnstealer Mar 20, 2004 13:54:50	Bvanen's up.
#93 zombiegleemax Mar 20, 2004 19:48:32	Nice work on the bvanen. Looks much more alien.
#94 korvar Mar 23, 2004 14:35:33	Originally posted by Dawnstealer That's a good question. Lemme check... ...Looks like it's a whopping 9.8mbs. If you want to mirror it, you're welcome to. I wanted to, and so I did. Dark Sun Gallery
#95 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Mar 23, 2004 16:09:24	Once I get settled in/moved back to my mom's house, I'll see about mirroring your site there Dawnstealer as well.
#96 korvar Mar 23, 2004 16:13:37	We will not stop until every website has a copy! Muahahahaha!
#97 dawnstealer Mar 23, 2004 17:30:18	Kick arse, guys! Looks good.
#98 dawnstealer Mar 28, 2004 17:52:15	All right, after many, many, (many) prelims, I finally came up with a sketch I liked. I'll be the first to admit that it's not the Sistine Chapel, but it should fill the void: Hunting and Rock Cacti Poor little lizards...
#99 dawnstealer Mar 28, 2004 23:59:19	Here's my tribute to Baxa: Spider Cactus Awww: the little cactus is trying to drink his blood, too. Sweet.
#100 Kamelion Mar 29, 2004 1:35:27	Excellent - that spider cactus rocks. And those widdle hunting cacti look so cute. Doomspike smiles warmly from his secret underground base at the athasian north pole. Dunno if I mentioned it but I love the look you've given the z'tal. Perfect .
#101 dawnstealer Mar 31, 2004 21:21:09	What kind of person walks barefoot in the desert? The kind that step on sand cacti.
#102 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Mar 31, 2004 21:59:13	Nice. I still like the older one which showed the plant underground with tendrils burrowing up to the surface with an (elf?) above.
#103 dawnstealer Mar 31, 2004 23:01:46	I actually liked that one, too, and was going to make one very similar. Problem was it didn't match the style of the others, which was more of a 3rd person and not god-like (ability to see underground) view. I might make another one in that style, though, along with Doomspike.
#104 xlorepdarkhelm_dup Mar 31, 2004 23:18:19	The third-person view is cool, don't get me wrong. It shows what the characters might see, as opposed as some sort of scientific diagnostic of the situation with X-Ray vision.
#105 dawnstealer Apr 11, 2004 11:21:41	Four new ones for you: Starting with the Chanth and going through a Defiled. (Dagorran, and Dagolar Slime)
#106 nytcrawlr Apr 11, 2004 11:29:27	As always, great work man. Really like what you did for defiled.
#107 zombiegleemax Apr 11, 2004 15:32:11	I want a bunny rabbit . . . of my very own. I will hug him, and pet him, and I will name him George . . .
#108 dawnstealer Apr 11, 2004 15:39:34	Well played, Mach.
#109 dawnstealer Apr 12, 2004 14:37:13	Here's a chance for y'all to contribute: What does an Athasian dolphin look like? I drew a few sketches of a dophin, but it just doesn't look "athasian" enough. I gave it bigger teeth, four eyes, and so on, and it started to get there. What do you guys think? Toss out some ideas of dark-sunning a dolphin.
#110 Kamelion Apr 12, 2004 15:39:54	Give them some serious armour plating across the snout and forehead. Perhaps this extends into an ever-thinning dorsal line of vertebral reinforcements. Maybe their fins have webbing like a lionfish or perhaps their tails have no flukes, instead elongating into something more eel-like (like in the water drake picture). A big puckery blowhole is a must too, imho. Puckery blowholes rule. They're supposed to have a silvery-white skin too - maybe they are albinos?
#111 dawnstealer Apr 12, 2004 16:50:49	Nice. On all points. Think I might keep their tails as-is: they still have to look somewhat like a dolphin or no one will know what they are. Of course, that's not always a bad thing...
#112 zombiegleemax Apr 12, 2004 16:54:49	There's plenty of strange looking dolphins out there than the standard 'flipper' variety. You could also try and check for some prehistoric examples as well.
#113 zombiegleemax Apr 12, 2004 16:57:45	Since Dolphins are mammals, they should take on mammal-like attributes. I think four eyes would look too out of place. Perhaps you should devolve them to look like their distant ancestor, Ambulocetus. http://www.bbc.co.uk/beasts/factfiles/factfiles/ambulocetus.shtml
#114 dawnstealer Apr 12, 2004 16:58:00	Whales (and dolphins) evolved from carnivorous hooved animals. How weird is that?
#115 dawnstealer Apr 12, 2004 17:00:00	And that's it. That's an extreme example, real early in the fossil record. I don't think I'd take them back that far - they are supposed to be phenomenal swimmers, after all.
#116 zombiegleemax Apr 12, 2004 17:01:49	Perhaps you should devolve them to look like their distant ancestor, Ambulocetus. Wow, smooth out the skin just a bit so they look a little less like a crocodile and you've got me sold on having dolphins on Athas.
#117 zombiegleemax Apr 12, 2004 19:45:17	Maybe an Athasian Dolphins should be have a role similar to crocodiles. Given the dryness of Athas and the rarity of water, dolphins should be able to move arcoss land. However, evolution cannot possible keep up with the Cleansing Wars, so, if there are still dolpins on Athas, they would be the same as they were before the cleansing wars, i.e., normal Dolphins frolicking about in the Last Sea, or they have been warpped by magic into an unholy creature of the deep.
#118 dawnstealer Apr 12, 2004 22:44:44	A dolphin athasians can be proud of. Screw flipper.
#119 dawnstealer Apr 13, 2004 0:13:33	Poor little ssurran... ...worm food. Check out the magma drake.
#120 Kamelion Apr 13, 2004 2:54:53	Those rock. They just do, it's that simple. The dolphin made me go "Yes! How cool is that!" in quite a loud voice indeed...
#121 jon_oracle_of_athas Apr 13, 2004 4:50:49	That dolphin has that nasty athasian look to it. Good work! Now if only the Monster Bureau would ignore the material in Mindlords of the Last Sea and change the athasian dolphin alignment entry from Lawful good to Lawful evil, we'd be getting somewhere. :D