Non-Human Greyhawk Dieties



Jan 08, 2004 12:12:16
The Corellon thread got me thinking.

Are there any real Gygaxian non-human deities? The non-human deities in D&DG were written by Jim Ward and the ones in UA by Roger Moore.

Who did the non-humans worship in the original Lake Geneva campaign? And if it was the "ordinary", I mean human, pantheons why are they set out as being Flan, Suloise or Oeridian?

Any knowledge about this?

Any theories?


Jan 08, 2004 12:16:09
The 'core' Demi-human pantheons and a handful of humanoid gods got detailed in 1e Unearthed Arcana. It's possible that these are the same ones that had been done earlier in D&DG and Dragon articles, but I consider the fact that Gygax at least endorsed them in UA to be a basic stamp of approval for their inclusion in Greyhawk.


Jan 08, 2004 14:19:05
They are exactly the ones that were done previously in Dragon. Also, UA was rushed to publication a year early, because TSR was facing bankrupcy (so was ToEE). So Gary may not have approved so much as accepted their inclusion into Greyhawk. His polearm material had also appeared in earlier issues of Dragon IIRC. He has a question area on Pied Piper Publishing boards (Col_Pladoh) and he's pretty nice about answering this type of question. You could ask him directly or ask Rob if he remembers.


Jan 11, 2004 23:38:17
Actually, Gygax explicitly endorsed REM's demi-human deities back in "From the Sorceror's Scroll" of Dragon 71 (March 1983), page 5:

One more thing about official material. Roger Moore did such a splendid job with the non-human deities (see DRAGON issues #59-63) that I have urged TSR to include them in the next edition of the DEITIES & DEMIGODS⁚ Cyclopedia, whenever such a revision takes place. Meanwhile, you should most certainly regard the work as “Official”! (Those AD&D players who are employing the WORLD OF GREYHAWK⁚ setting for their campaign can likewise incorporate this material into their activities if they so desire, although some alterations should be made to make sure the non-human deities reflect the WORLD OF GREYHAWK mode, as presented in several previous issues of this Splendid Journal.)

I hope that helps :D


Jan 12, 2004 2:26:13
Better yet, ask Grodog. He'll know the answer, have a cite, and his memories never change.



Jan 12, 2004 2:51:26
just to say that the old "mythology" book , 2nd ed. add, is the best books that has ever been written on demi human and monster gods. ( and Carl Sargent contributed to... ;)


Jan 13, 2004 10:48:17
Originally posted by rostoff
Better yet, ask Grodog. He'll know the answer, have a cite, and his memories never change.


LOL rostoff. I'm not sure about my memories never changing (or always being accurate for that matter...), but I'll take that as a compliment and leave it at that! Thanks :D