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#1 daedavias_dup Jan 19, 2004 14:53:32	Hey, I was thinking of buying the Monster Manual II, but I wasn't exactly sure how well some of the monsters inside would fit with a DL game. Could anyone here with this particular accessory tell me of any monsters that are blatently out of place in DL or ones that fit perfectly? I am already aware of how the gem dragons wouldn't fit into DL. The main reason why I want to know is because I am thinking of adding the felldrakes into my campaign. The general story behind them is that they are the last work of Paladine as a god. Before he gave up his divinity, he secretly seeded the Qualinesti and Silvanesti forests with the felldrakes to aid the elves in gaining their homelands back. Yeah, I know it is kind of a lame idea, but could anyone help me with this?
#2 cam_banks Jan 19, 2004 15:04:04	Originally posted by Daedavias Yeah, I know it is kind of a lame idea, but could anyone help me with this? A lot of the MM2 monsters are a great fit for Dragonlance. Sirines, for example, are an established part of the setting. Amongst others which would work include sylphs, dire animals, galeb duhrs, warbeasts, banshees, catoblepases, bone nagas, and others. Your inclusion of the felldrakes isn't a bad idea. Cheers, Cam
#3 daedavias_dup Jan 19, 2004 21:18:39	Originally posted by Cam Banks A lot of the MM2 monsters are a great fit for Dragonlance. Sirines, for example, are an established part of the setting. Amongst others which would work include sylphs, dire animals, galeb duhrs, warbeasts, banshees, catoblepases, bone nagas, and others. Your inclusion of the felldrakes isn't a bad idea. Cheers, Cam I can't believe I over looked the sirines. There was one in Time of the Twins, right? Weren't you the one who said that the MMII banshee was too powerful? I bet I could even find the topic... So are there any other monsters that are in there that are good for a DL game. Since the DM Screen didn't specify on a lot of stuff, pretty much the outsiders can all be put in no problem. Obviously abberations can be put in as magical experiments. By the way, is it wrong that I want to make the felldrakes the newly resurrected bodies of the elves that died protecting their homelands?
#4 ferratus Jan 19, 2004 22:40:29	Originally posted by Daedavias So are there any other monsters that are in there that are good for a DL game. Since the DM Screen didn't specify on a lot of stuff, pretty much the outsiders can all be put in no problem. Obviously abberations can be put in as magical experiments. It is quite clear from the DM's screen that every monster from MM1 can be used with the exception of drow, lyncanthropes and orcs... legacies of the decisions of the 2e design team. When it comes to other monster books, a DM can add them as he sees fit, but they will not show up in Dragonlance books because they are not OGL. By the way, is it wrong that I want to make the felldrakes the newly resurrected bodies of the elves that died protecting their homelands? Whatever you feel is right is right for your campaign. That said, for dragonlance flavour I think it fits nicely because you basically have a strong draconic theme and the souls of the dead. Since Gilean offered the souls his dead aesthetics to continue to serve in the library, I don't see why Paladine couldn't allow his elven children to be reincarnated in a draconic form.
#5 daedavias_dup Jan 19, 2004 22:47:03	Originally posted by ferratus It is quite clear from the DM's screen that every monster from MM1 can be used with the exception of drow, lyncanthropes and orcs... legacies of the decisions of the 2e design team. When it comes to other monster books, a DM can add them as he sees fit, but they will not show up in Dragonlance books because they are not OGL. I only meant in respect to outsiders. Since the DM Screen doesn't specify what types of demons, devils, archons, etc are available, one could use creatures with that type from basically any source. Whatever you feel is right is right for your campaign. That said, for dragonlance flavour I think it fits nicely because you basically have a strong draconic theme and the souls of the dead. Since Gilean offered the souls his dead aesthetics to continue to serve in the library, I don't see why Paladine couldn't allow his elven children to be reincarnated in a draconic form. You know, you just provided me with the absolute perfect reason why to put them in!
#6 cam_banks Jan 19, 2004 22:58:33	Originally posted by Daedavias I only meant in respect to outsiders. Since the DM Screen doesn't specify what types of demons, devils, archons, etc are available, one could use creatures with that type from basically any source. Correct. That was intentional. Cheers, Cam
#7 daedavias_dup Jan 19, 2004 23:01:12	Originally posted by Cam Banks Correct. That was intentional. Cheers, Cam I figured as much. I am glad that the designers went this route. BTW, since you are on the list of designers, I feel it is proper to say good job on the Screen, it is an invaluble resource. That can also be directed towards Jamie, since he was the co-designer.
#8 brimstone Jan 20, 2004 9:58:20	Originally posted by Cam Banks A lot of the MM2 monsters are a great fit for Dragonlance. Sirines, for example, are an established part of the setting. Don't forget the jaggurnaut, which looks like it's straight out of Lord Toede.
#9 zombiegleemax Jan 20, 2004 19:30:23	I once read a choose-your-own-adventure story based in Nordmaar. If you screwed up enough, you could run into a catoblepas in the swamps.
#10 daedavias_dup Jan 20, 2004 19:34:25	Just got the book (20% off at the local gamestore), and I see quite a few possibilities for a DL game. I forgot how small the friggin felldrakes were, I could have sworn there were minis out there of elves riding the crested felldrake, which is a small size creature. It's kinda weird. Oh well, the main character rides a spiked felldrake, which is a large size creature.
#11 zombiegleemax Jan 20, 2004 21:27:58	I also used some of the higher end dragons in a Chaos War campaign that I DM'd to get some players interested in playing in the DL Campaign Setting. They thought that the world of Krynn was lame until they fought some of the nastier dragons while riding on dragon-back with Dragonlances, LOL, they were sure suprised, and now they are on their way to destroying the remaining dragon overlords. Sable, and Frost had better watch out.
#12 zombiegleemax Jan 21, 2004 21:49:12	does anyone know if they are going to make MM2 in the 3.5?
#13 daedavias_dup Jan 21, 2004 21:55:03	Originally posted by bdg4life does anyone know if they are going to make MM2 in the 3.5? It was one of the few to received the updates on Wizards Website.