/me waits for it
:D
Tribe of One template
- at least 8 different personalities
- each has their own powers/abilities
- - can only be used while in said personality mode
- hard to control, but gets better
- aquired template (must have undergone some sort of very stressful situation)
If I left anything out so far let me know, stll reading...
Guardian - protector
Ranger - survivalist
Screech - animal personality
Kether - the one that made "the call" in the first place it seems
Watcher - seer of sorts
Eyron - no clue, definately a negative personality though
Lyric - Bard personality
Kivara - the young at heart in all of us, immature child?
There should probably be a restriction that the template can only be applied to creatures able to manifest at least one psionic power. Either that, or the template causes the base creature to develop psionics in some way. Iirc, it was more common amongst the villichi than elsewhere. Hmmm...Also, not all of Sorak's personalities developed from the same source, although they were triggered by the same event. You might already have read hints about Kether being possibly external. (I'm being obscure cause I don't want to blab about the ending before you reach it in case you forgot how it ends ;) )
So you could keep the personalities from the novel, but at least a few of them seemed unique to Sorak's situation and might not necessarily develop in every "Tribe of One". Maybe a picklist or set of options? Cool ideas, though - should work out really well.
(PS - Did you get my mail about my hotmail being down - not sure if stuff I sent yesterday got through ok...?)
I suggest locating a book on psychology at your local university, and reading the section on archetypes for good ideas.
Since you'll be the one actually making the template and perhaps tackling Sorak in the process of creating the template, are you going to make a trial Sorak for FoA?
But don't make it aquired. The experiences that can cause a personality fragmentation generally take place while very young. I would guess 3 - 5 years old.
So likely, a PC or NPC would have the template for a while, and maybe not know.
And Nyt, I know you. Well, your glee at tormenting PCs anyway.
Just think about the possibilities.:D
Originally posted by Kamelion
Cool ideas, Nyt
Danke.
There should probably be a restriction that the template can only be applied to creatures able to manifest at least one psionic power. Either that, or the template causes the base creature to develop psionics in some way. Iirc, it was more common amongst the villichi than elsewhere. Hmmm...
Yeah, past that part. I think I'm going to allow it to anything, and then whoever takes the template gets a wild talent or two at certain levels.
Also, not all of Sorak's personalities developed from the same source, although they were triggered by the same event. You might already have read hints about Kether being possibly external. (I'm being obscure cause I don't want to blab about the ending before you reach it in case you forgot how it ends ;) )
Spoiler!!!!
I vaguely remember the ending, he went into Bodach and found a tower that had a time vortex or whatever to the Green Age.
But yeah Kether is from the Green Age, and I can only assume he is linked to the Sage/Avangion at this point, but I'm only at chapter 5, hehe. Going to try and finish the first book by the end of the week.
So I'm thinking maybe limit it to 5 personalities and keep what said personalities do set in stone, but leave the names open for individuals to name as they please.
(PS - Did you get my mail about my hotmail being down - not sure if stuff I sent yesterday got through ok...?)
Yep, getting your emails aok still.
Originally posted by Pennarin
Since you'll be the one actually making the template and perhaps tackling Sorak in the process of creating the template, are you going to make a trial Sorak for FoA?
I'm going to make Sorak using my Tribe of One template and Jon's elfling race, but I seriously doubt it will be on FoA since flip has repeatedly told me to not count on it if I ever created him, lol.
It will be on my site none the less.
Originally posted by 16th Champion
But don't make it aquired. The experiences that can cause a personality fragmentation generally take place while very young. I would guess 3 - 5 years old.
Always thought acquired meant it was something that was picked up over game play and not something you started out with?
I probably have that backwards, heh.
And Nyt, I know you. Well, your glee at tormenting PCs anyway.
Just think about the possibilities.:D
Shhhh! That was our little secret!
Was Sorak an elfling? I read the first book years ago, but never got to the other two. I guess they're worth it, given the Bodach-green-age connection.
I can get these books as downloads the same way I can get the roleplaying stuff?
Originally posted by 16th Champion
Was Sorak an elfling?
Yes he is.
Still looking for Jon's elfling writeup, it doesn't appear to be on his site.
I can get what you send me, but can't send to you, nor can Gab.
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Guardian - Female, protective, empathic, nuturing
Ranger - Male, survivalist, pragmatic, motivator
Screech - ?, animal personality in all of us
Kether - Male, the one that made "the call", linked to the Sage in the Green Age
Watcher - Female, alert, intuitive, desire for security
Eyron - Male, cynical, pessimisstic
Lyric - Male, humerous, creative, playful child, innocent
Kivara - Female, sensual, passioniate, curious, lack of concern for any morality
Shade - ?, dark, grim, primitive
infant core - ?, our core personality, the ultimate center
Taking from this I think it is safe to say that you can easily take the 5 most important ones out and use that in the template, or we could introduce all, but only let the player pick 5, and make sure all 5 are balanced against each other, or assign each its own LA/CR.
The 5 I think are the most important are:
Guardian
Ranger
Watcher
Kivara/Lyric combo (should be more of one personality IMO)
infant core
Thoughts?
That said, you could invent any reason why the *subject* would suddenly possess mutiple personnalities within himself(personnalities being a self conscience *soul/entity*.)
The question I'm asking myself(and to you) is how to balance a player/npc who has the potential of several(at least 2) psich/class level?? I think that at least the following should not change just because there's a new *conscience/perso. in the brain box*:
hit point, natural armor class,abilities(str, con,dex, etc) speed factor(unless activated by magic or psionically by the *spirit* in control of the host at that moment. After all, its the same corporeal shell for all of them.
Speeking of control. I would also suggest that whilst the other(s) conscience have control of the body, it should not be able to use any of the original's or other's conscience's --if any-- knowledge. since they are considered in *semi-conscioussness* This means that like in the novels, each conscience is proper to its own.(hope i said it right) Of course this imply(from my part) that you'll *tag* each of the said conscience/perso. a Class(preserver/defiler, druid, ranger, bard,etc or at least some related ability for each of the mentionned conscience!! I mean if I recall, each of those perso had abilities which some of them were even beyond Sorek's own(I'm not sure of its name here: been a long time)
Oh boy, work tomorow. Time for bed. Well that's about it for now anyway. GN.
Originally posted by Jihun-Nish
At first I thought that making a template out of The Tribe Of One *trait* was to powerfull or at least the PrC would to hight in prerequisit to even consider becoming one and after a few moment of pondering on the subject, I realised I had forgot a very important detail. You are born with the multiple personnalities within you(at least that's how it is presented in TToOnovel.
I thought it was going to be too silly at first, especially since not many people like the ToO series.
Next I thought it would be too complicated, then I actually sat down and thought about it and saw that it wasn't.
That said, you could invent any reason why the *subject* would suddenly possess mutiple personnalities within himself(personnalities being a self conscience *soul/entity*.)
Exactly.
The question I'm asking myself(and to you) is how to balance a player/npc who has the potential of several(at least 2) psich/class level?? I think that at least the following should not change just because there's a new *conscience/perso. in the brain box*:
I don't plan to give the personalities classes, I think that will be too much of a headache to keep up with.
What I do plan is to give the base character extra things based on what personality is at the forefront.
All personalities will be set in power and won't get any stronger, since I don't recall them getting any stronger in the novels (mind you I'm only up to chapter 5 in Outcast and haven't read the trilogy in years), only Sorak does.
hit point, natural armor class,abilities(str, con,dex, etc) speed factor(unless activated by magic or psionically by the *spirit* in control of the host at that moment. After all, its the same corporeal shell for all of them.
Most, if not all of the bonuses will be mental. I can't see giving physical bonuses since switching to a personality has nothing to do with your Str score, etc. Course I know there are theories out there that disagree with me, but I'm not going down that road, heh.
Speeking of control. I would also suggest that whilst the other(s) conscience have control of the body, it should not be able to use any of the original's or other's conscience's --if any-- knowledge. since they are considered in *semi-conscioussness* This means that like in the novels, each conscience is proper to its own.(hope i said it right) Of course this imply(from my part) that you'll *tag* each of the said conscience/perso. a Class(preserver/defiler, druid, ranger, bard,etc or at least some related ability for each of the mentionned conscience!! I mean if I recall, each of those perso had abilities which some of them were even beyond Sorek's own(I'm not sure of its name here: been a long time)
No matter what personality is in control the physical stats will remain, it's the mental that will change out here and there. Though I recall them being able to use all mentals as a pool at once, just abilities specific to that personality couldn't be used, so maybe all the base creature stuff will stay no matter what personality is in the forefront.
Looks like it's starting to come together...
I remember that being similar to what I want to do.
What is Jon's Elfling race?
Due to several requests per e-mail, I've decided to post the Elfling write-up on the tentative Athas Online site.
www.sederqvist.com/ao
It's in the 3E section.
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Hijack over...
The chanth. >shudders involuntarily< Don't remind me about that thing. Complete pain in the *** to convert. Heh heh.
Originally posted by Kamelion
Heh - that's not my email address. There are a couple of numbers after the @ and before "move".
Yeah, your email client is still holding the old one, might want to change that.
The chanth. >shudders involuntarily< Don't remind me about that thing. Complete pain in the *** to convert. Heh heh.
But damn beautiful none the less.
Yeah, your email client is still holding the old one, might want to change that.
Cheers. Should be all fixed now. Miniature giant space hamsters ate my registry - still coming across all sorts of wierdness
But damn beautiful none the less.
Ta very much
Always had a soft spot for hybrid disembodied mutant brains.Is that what Sorak was?
Originally posted by 16th Champion
So the lefling is half elf/half halfling?
Is that what Sorak was?
Yep, Sorak was half elf/half halfling.
Also it seems that when the Guardian is at the fore, Sorak is awake in most cases and intermingled with her, or vice versa, however, Sorak is still limited to using psionics only when one of the psionic using personalities are at the fore. The watcher is the only exception to this who seems to have her powers going constantly.
Probably not going to touch on the psionics until PsiHb 3.5 comes out, so I will just focus on reading and converting some other things until then.
Onward to book 2.
I'm cooking up something ;)