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#1 Charles_Phipps Feb 13, 2004 1:19:42	Heya, This is a thread about Non-Margeret Weis and Hickman novels that introduced new elements to Krynn that don't necessarily jibe too well with the established continuity. This is to provide "patches", explanations, or mostly complain how it should be disregarded for everyone's sanity's sake. My least favorite part was the Dark Queen The Dark Queen I had my own issues with, primarily doing with the portrayal of Takhasis herself whom seem alittle too...subdued for her portrayal but I could accept that.... Things that stood out in the novel though include * The fact the Kingpriest was secretly a pawn of the Queen of Darkness It fits that Paladine believed that she was secretly returning to power (one theory for it) but I somewhat doubt it personally and it ruins the flavor of good having the flaw of righteousness to the point of insanity * The Kingpriest's illegitimate child Especially inappropriate in light of the portrayal in Divine Flame and other books. There's plenty others to tackle Fistandelius Reborn (given the fact Raistlin absorbed him) and the absence of the white stag in huma's tale (otherwise widely accepted as the best of the Books after the Trilogy) Even the Companions, one of my favorite books, has the improbable facts * Tanis and Company saw PROOF POSITIVE of the Old Gods well before Takhasis * Why exactly would Sargonnes be able to overshoot Takhasis into coming into the world On the other hand I liked how it pointed out Minotaur clerics never left These things have a vast impact on the gameworld for instance and can be sources of interesting stories but some...less so.
#2 jonesy Feb 13, 2004 4:29:17	And here I thought we weren't allowed to make threads about novels anymore. Silly me. This is to provide "patches", explanations, or mostly complain how it should be disregarded for everyone's sanity's sake. Now this is just my opinion (doh), but the best way to patch TDQ to fit the rest of DL is to ignore it entirely.
#3 Charles_Phipps Feb 13, 2004 4:39:47	I.e. also how this might impact play.... Especially in the Kingpriest era. If The Minotaurs are bringing back Sargas, is he making a power play pre-War of the Lance That sort of thing
#4 jonesy Feb 13, 2004 4:51:32	Originally posted by Charles Phipps * Why exactly would Sargonnes be able to overshoot Takhasis into coming into the world If The Minotaurs are bringing back Sargas, is he making a power play pre-War of the Lance I think I have trouble understanding what you mean. Takhisis was the only god forbidden to enter the world. While most of the mortals might have been ignoring the other gods, it still doesn't mean that they would have been inactive after the Cataclysm.
#5 silvanthalas Feb 13, 2004 8:01:21	Originally posted by Charles Phipps This is a thread about Non-Margeret Weis and Hickman novels that introduced new elements to Krynn that don't necessarily jibe too well with the established continuity. Why limit it to just non-W&H novels? Some of their stuff has continuity issues as well. "First come, first serve" only seems to work for alot of people until DoanA, then, because it's W&H, WoS is free to do what it wants.
#6 Matthew_L._Martin Feb 13, 2004 10:15:11	Originally posted by Charles Phipps * The fact the Kingpriest was secretly a pawn of the Queen of Darkness Suggested in _DRAGONLANCE Adventures_, under the entry for Takhisis. Matthew L. Martin
#7 brimstone Feb 13, 2004 10:31:03	Besides...being a "pawn" of the Dark Queen doesn't mean you're a willing pawn. (I don't remember which was the case in TDQ though). Either way...I still don't think it ruins the Dragonlance idea that "righteousness" can very easily become a bad thing.
#8 talinthas Feb 13, 2004 10:35:36	things that need to be ignored? summer flame. war of souls. ulin's gunpowder. that silly woman's turban. that talking owl linsha has. other things and stuff.
#9 wotc_mel Feb 13, 2004 12:35:07	Sorry folks, I have to close this thread as we don't discuss novels on these forums. -Melanie
#10 Charles_Phipps Feb 13, 2004 12:53:19	As stated I wanted to know the game effects and what should probably be included/disregarded in the upcoming history supplements. This isn't about the novels but the history of Krynn which is an important part of the game. If Tanis's "whacky time travel adventure" was possible. I'd like to know
#11 jonesy Feb 13, 2004 13:09:47	Originally posted by Charles Phipps There's plenty others to tackle Fistandelius Reborn (given the fact Raistlin absorbed him) As far as I can tell, Fistandantilus Reborn has only one major contradiction when compared to other novels. The location of the battle between Fist and Raist. Now granted, Fistandantilus making (or trying to make) time-delayed clones of himself (or his essence or whatever) is a wacky plotline, but it doesn't really go against anything said elsewhere. ;)
#12 wotc_mel Feb 13, 2004 15:46:03	Originally posted by Charles Phipps As stated I wanted to know the game effects and what should probably be included/disregarded in the upcoming history supplements. This isn't about the novels but the history of Krynn which is an important part of the game. If Tanis's "whacky time travel adventure" was possible. I'd like to know Actually, your fist post and your thread title do not make this clear. It looks more like an invitation of stuff simply to ignore--not for game purposes. Please edit the post and thread title to narrow the scope to gameplay so the thread can stay. -Melanie
#13 jonesy Feb 14, 2004 3:37:13	Originally posted by WotC_Mel Actually, your fist post and your thread title do not make this clear. It looks more like an invitation of stuff simply to ignore--not for game purposes. Please edit the post and thread title to narrow the scope to gameplay so the thread can stay. -Melanie Sorry Mel, but don't you mean broaden the scope to include gameplay? Because based on the announcements made at the time the novel boards were closed I got the distinct impression that we were still allowed to discuss novels as long it was in conjunction with gaming material. Also: Originally posted by WizO_BigSister * It will be allowed to make references to novels when it is appropriate to the topic being discussed (e.g. If you are discussing “The Origens of the Moonblades” of course you will be able to mention “Evermeet: Island of the Elves.” As another example when discussing the nature of Cormyr as a campaign setting of course you can refer to the Sembia novels.) * It will also be allowed discussion of the iconic characters who appear both in novels and supplements.
#14 silvanthalas Feb 14, 2004 11:32:15	WotC doesn't know what they want. I'd rather they just shut this board down altogether and get it over with.
#15 baron_the_curse Feb 14, 2004 19:54:57	Why are we not allow to discuss novels? This is new to me.
#16 baron_the_curse Feb 14, 2004 20:00:15	Originally posted by talinthas things that need to be ignored? summer flame. war of souls. ulin's gunpowder. that silly woman's turban. that talking owl linsha has. other things and stuff. If I may add to that list... The Oath and the Measure. What was the deal with the retelling of an Arthurian story?