|#1LokiynFeb 18, 2004 19:56:32||ok question about darksun|
I love athas and darksun and prefer it to most of the other worlds but alas (or hoorah) its not 3e. Unfortunatly i have never been able to get large amounts darksun materials and now i am wondering if there is anywhere that contains the whole of the darksun history. Everything from creation to its most receint publications. I would really like to learn it like i learn the other worlds histories.
heh a rpg historian someone shoot me... or stab me in the face or other vital area
|#2nytcrawlrFeb 18, 2004 20:01:21||/me summons Mach and his knife of blood shedding +5|
I can see that the literacy rate has dropped and continues to do so.
Or maybe that's the attention span?
|#3PennarinFeb 18, 2004 20:03:55|
Originally posted by NytCrawlr
-settling down with popcorn :D for an action pact evening-
|#4LokiynFeb 18, 2004 20:07:38||dude its not that i cant read it its that i cant get the materials hold off on the popcorn, i could read each and every thread in this forum and get a good idea but its not like actually geting a hold of the complete picture at once|
|#5nytcrawlrFeb 18, 2004 20:12:27||Ooh, cut him slowly and evenly, I want to watch him suffer.|
|#6xlorepdarkhelm_dupFeb 18, 2004 20:15:09|
Originally posted by Lokiyn
Please show me, after getting to this message forum, through which you have to go through the "Other Roleplaying Worlds HQ", which has the following quote:
That you didn't see the link in that quote that leads to athas.org. If you had gone to Athas.org, you would have seen that yes, there is rules for Dark Sun for (gasp) 3E. Well, technically it's for 3.5E, as they had relatively recently released the updated version.
Unfortunatly i have never been able to get large amounts darksun materials and now i am wondering if there is anywhere that contains the whole of the darksun history. Everything from creation to its most receint publications. I would really like to learn it like i learn the other worlds histories.
Well, to answer your question, there is an official timeline.... one of the more recent posts here actually links to it. Further, SV Games sells PDF files of all the Dark Sun materials, and I have heard that eBay has dark sun books up on it from time to time. Please don't get too upset about my earlier statements... it's not directed to you personally, as it is more my own personal confusion when it comes to such things - I personally open and check every link, especially when I'm looking for information, and when people don't..... it baffles me.
Welcome to the community
...and Mach, I have my cookies hidden in a secret safe deposit box, buried somewhere in the sea of silt. You can't get them.
|#7LokiynFeb 18, 2004 20:15:39||hmm forced between opening a portal into athas's shadow plane full of undead and mach's knife..... yah i'm out of here i'd rather play with the undead|
|#8LokiynFeb 18, 2004 20:18:43|
Originally posted by xlorepdarkhelm
no foul its all in good fun and i snuck in through a back door so i didn't go through the main page so i didn't see all those links.
Ah the price of chaos is missing things along the beaten path
|#9nytcrawlrFeb 18, 2004 20:23:19||/me summons his army of Kaisharga to torture Lokiyn|
|#10LokiynFeb 18, 2004 20:25:57||:bounce: :fight!: |
Lokiyn sets himself to take the charge know that as he died he will take as many as he can with him.
|#11cskFeb 18, 2004 20:36:56||It was suggested before, but to reiterate, it would probably be a good idea to post a "Read Me" FAQ at the top of the boards. It doesn't even have to be long, basically just "Where can I find DS3/3.5? At athas.org." and "Where can I get DS material? At SV Games/eBay/half.com/Amazon.com."|
|#12zombiegleemaxFeb 18, 2004 23:14:14||Welcome aboard Lokiyn.|
Errr . . . you'll have to excuse some of the more incesantly billigerent people here in these boards. Its just that, your not the first one to come along having missed the opener in the main message board listings about Athas.org. It happens, and really isn't as a big a deal as it some others *cough* *nyt, xlor, pen* *cough* make it out to be.
Don't worry though. After the innitial mandatory razzing about it, everyone here is pretty good about being open to opinions and ideas about Dark Sun. Give it a week or two and you'll be derailing threads with talk of space hamsters, smurfs, and cotton candy like the rest of us. Wow, come to think of it, its been a little while since we went off on a space hamster tangent . . . at last three or four days.
Oh yeah, Nyt's comment about that whole facial stabbing thing. Don't worry about it. Its only a virtual stabbing over the net. Only my dwindling neighbors have to worry about the real thing. Sure has been getting lonely on this block . . . might be time to move.
Oh yeah (again). Get that FAQ up! Sticky thread; expandable as more frequently flamable questions pop up.
|#13nytcrawlrFeb 18, 2004 23:24:43||Mach is such a pussycat these days.|
P.S. Ha! Beat you, you evil censors!
|#14zombiegleemaxFeb 18, 2004 23:31:55||Drats, all that and I never got around to answering your question.|
There's nowhere (that I know of) online that has a detailed history of Athas. There is the timeline (see previous post for link), but its . . . tricky. Its not 100% accurate because the Dark Sun setting has more than a few inconsistancies in the published material. Many of the issues stem from variations between the RPG material and the novels, but some come from within the different RPG products themselves.
Your best bet is to start with the timeline, to get a general overview. Then, shell out a few bucks for some of the older DS products before jumping into the 'revised' setting material (updated timeline material, not revised as in 3.0 to 3.5; its all in 2E AD&D). You can pick up old DS material from any online auction site (like ebay) or from rpg community sites with buying/selling sections (like Enworld and RPGNow) if your a stickler for having the printed material. If you don't mind getting the stuff in electronic PDF format, head over to SVGames or RPGNow to buy the entire stock of material for DS in PDF format for under 250 bucks (at 5 us dollers each). The dark sun novels, while not award winning literature by any means, aren't so bad and do flesh out the DS setting quite well (though this is mainly where alot of discrepencies in the setting come from).
Hope that's the answer you were looking for, or that it at least helps a little bit. We'll save the facial stabbing for another day.
(P.S. I now recall where I came across the facial stabbing fetish. Hop on over to 8-Bit Theater for the comic strip based on Final Fantasy for more info on where this bizzare obsession came from.)
|#15zombiegleemaxFeb 18, 2004 23:36:11|
Mach is such a pussycat these days
Someone has to keep you kids in line ;)
Besides, if you chase them all away before they've become addicted to DS and space hamsters, you'll have no one left to punt, call strange names, ridicule for grevious splelihng mistakes, derail their thread with useless talk about grecko-roman sexuality, and other fun stuff like that.
Method to the Madness . . .
|#16xlorepdarkhelm_dupFeb 19, 2004 0:03:52||But that's what we have you for, Mach|
|#17nytcrawlrFeb 19, 2004 2:31:28||You know, I got a whole FAQ module on my site just dying to be used, maybe I can cook something up then add a link to my sig.|
Then at least I can just post and say "Hey! Check the sig man/woman".
|#18jon_oracle_of_athasFeb 19, 2004 2:35:46||Or I can prod Flip about adding such a sticky thread.|
|#19KamelionFeb 19, 2004 2:40:29||Yup, we need a easy to see FAQ/info thread. It's clear that the word on the DS revival is filtering out into the community and this is only going to increase exponentially when the crossover conversion comes out. I'd say again that it should be something collaborative between athas.org and the WizOs. And it should be soon |
(Starting another thread on this...)
Hello Lokiyn - welcome to the desert of the real...
Not sure if you were after the "game history" or the "product history". Here's a couple of links to get you going.
|#20GrummoreFeb 19, 2004 14:22:45||Well, on a sticky, there could be at least a thread saying that there IS an existing Darksun 3.5... ! Giving where to get it, where to buy the SRD 2e darksun products and a link to my web page, since I own the most darksun web links :D |
Welcome Lokiyn, to the harsh world of athas. I am Grummore, the silly frog, familiar of Jon, the oracle of athas. ;)
Follow the link in my signature and you will find a page with some informations and the HUGEST darksun links page. Ooooh yeah!
|#21dawnstealerFeb 19, 2004 17:02:04||Our fine frog does have a very good site with many, many links. Athas.org should be your first stop, but his should be your second. As for the razzing, it's a newbie thing - you aren't the first, although I'm very impressed at Xlor not pulling out a huge power drill and boring it up your arse (shame on you, Nyt. Shame, shame, shame - you are truly rife with naughtiness). |
Here's a cookie.
Awww, I can't stay mad at you, Nyt; here's some cotton candy:
Okay. We have the FAQ on another thread, so I won't bring that up here. I say we come up with the standard questions that come up over and over and include them in a FAQ included on this board thumbtacked to the top (have to talk to Wiz 'O about that one, I guess). This should be a FAQ of questions that have official answers, by the way. Not speculation. That's my take.
Welcome aboard, Lokiyn. Don't worry: I was here for Xlor's first post, too. :D
|#22nytcrawlrFeb 19, 2004 17:46:51|
Originally posted by Dawnstealer
|#23zombiegleemaxFeb 19, 2004 22:51:48||A quick History of Urik.|
In the beginning, Hamanu created a spring, and it was good. Then he created the fields full of food, and this was good. Then, he created men and then the other races, and this too was good. Then, the men and other races, to show their humble thanks to Hamanu, they built the city of Urik, and this was not only good, but grand.
Welcome to Athasian History 101, it is whatever the SKs want the history to be.
|#24PennarinFeb 19, 2004 23:03:10|
Originally posted by Ral of Tyr
I'd suggest you edit that post Ral, or you'll get some epic-grade lightning bolts up your way... :D
|#25zombiegleemaxFeb 20, 2004 1:01:41||You made me get up and find my DS stuff. I post after working a full day and dinner with friends. After that, spelling is no big deal. |
PS: There are few lightning bolts on Athas seeing hows rain clouds means rain. However, I can still be struck down by a defiler.
|#26dawnstealerFeb 20, 2004 8:00:40||Actually, Ral might be closer than you think. Pretty sure Urik is based on Uruk and Hamanu is based on Hammurabi. Loosely. |
Damn you, smurfs!! Oh, god! They're in my hair! ArrrrrrGGGGHHHH!!!! They're eating my BRAAAAAIN!!!!!!
|#27nytcrawlrFeb 20, 2004 14:12:07||They taste good smeared on toast.|
|#28zombiegleemaxFeb 21, 2004 14:04:29||History of Athas-|
halflings and bugs lived
halflings played god
bugs mutated into thri-kreen
mutations played god
thri-kreen will eat all
open cover of FREEDOM and begin to rewrite the history to suit your needs
|#29dawnstealerFeb 21, 2004 22:06:12||I kind of like the idea that the bugs were the halfling Nature Benders. Gotta admit: it makes sense.|