Dregoth and Abalch-Re

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#1

zombiegleemax

Feb 19, 2004 23:25:59
By Shei-Nad in another thread

Abalach-Re: Intriguing character. Seems chaotic and uncaring at best. I find it weird that the other SKs rallied behind her against Dregoth. There might be some reason or enmity between her and Dregoth worth investigating.
#2

xlorepdarkhelm_dup

Feb 20, 2004 0:08:17
I would say a lot of finger pointing. Directed at what Borys *had* done, and then what Dregoth *could* do. As Abalach-Re happened to have her city awefully close to Giustenal, it might have worried her. Plus, I get the feeling that Dregoth felt himself above all the other Sorcerer-Monarchs, and him becoming a Dragon just might prove that.
#3

nytcrawlr

Feb 20, 2004 13:56:13
Originally posted by xlorepdarkhelm
I would say a lot of finger pointing. Directed at what Borys *had* done, and then what Dregoth *could* do. As Abalach-Re happened to have her city awefully close to Giustenal, it might have worried her. Plus, I get the feeling that Dregoth felt himself above all the other Sorcerer-Monarchs, and him becoming a Dragon just might prove that.

Afer reading most of DA, I'm going to have to go with this assesment.



He is just one bad mutha. More so than Borys could ever dream of being I think.
#4

Shei-Nad

Feb 20, 2004 14:09:29
Ok, since I kind of sparked the topic...

I wasn't really reffering to why the SKs bounded against Dregoth, since his threat was indeed reason enough.

I was wondering why Abalach-Re was the one who led this attack. To be the leader of this little scheme, she had to have some motive. Proximity could simply be that motive, but somthing more substantial could be good. Also, for the other sorcerer-kings to accept this little proposal, or not to have conjured it themselves before her (who can't even seem to control her own city) must have required some reason.

I'm thinking about it... I'll post something when I have a cool idea...
#5

nytcrawlr

Feb 20, 2004 14:37:29
Well Abalache-Re is somewhat of a promiscuous person, so maybe they were lovers, and he gave the cold shoulder after some time and she took it too personaly.

Fits with what I know of her type of character anyways.

She probably knew about his plan to become another dragon as well, probably via pillow talk, and used that as a means to rally the other SMs against him.

Damn I need to use www.m-w.com more often, heh.
#6

xlorepdarkhelm_dup

Feb 20, 2004 14:53:35
Well, we know, from WC, that Abalach-Re was..... pretty friendly with the guys. She liked to get aroud. Maybe Dregoth jilted her something fierce.
#7

Shei-Nad

Feb 20, 2004 16:07:25
Originally posted by xlorepdarkhelm
Well, we know, from WC, that Abalach-Re was..... pretty friendly with the guys. She liked to get aroud. Maybe Dregoth jilted her something fierce.

With english not being my native tongue, not sure what this means, but doesn't look too nice! ;)
#8

Pennarin

Feb 20, 2004 16:14:15
Originally posted by NytCrawlr
Damn I need to use www.m-w.com more often, heh.

I use Dictionnary.com and English Synonym Dictionary since I'm french speaking.
The first one gives the syllables for those pesky little seldom used english words ;), so you can break them down when its time to write text.
And god you would't believe the synonyms out there!!

'Inn' + Athas = lame
'Lodging house' + Athas = good

:D ok I'm a geek, I know...

P.S.
Jilted:
1- To deceive or drop (a lover) suddenly or callously.
2- One who discards a lover.
#9

jaanos

Feb 20, 2004 17:43:48
Originally posted by xlorepdarkhelm
Well, we know, from WC, that Abalach-Re was..... pretty friendly with the guys. She liked to get aroud. Maybe Dregoth jilted her something fierce.

Perhaps they both competed for the attention of the same SK.....
#10

zombiegleemax

Feb 20, 2004 19:29:36
A love triangle? Interesting. Assuming the SKs had at least a moderate amount of contact with eachother during the Clensing Wars, its only natural that they would develope a sense of comaraderie, perhaps even affection towards certain members. I like the idea.

So, who spurned who and why? Did Dregoth brush off Abalach-Re after a few centuries long affair? Did she go whoring around with Nibenay (that sly devil) to spite the Dread Lord? Or perhaps they competed for the attentions of the same person (yes, I'm open minded about things like that, one of the things I liked about the Pentad novel's openness about relationships). Perhaps Sielba or Andropinis, recalling the earlier thread derailment about Roman society.
#11

jaanos

Feb 20, 2004 19:34:52
Could make for some fascinating role-playing, i allways find the 'human' hook a good one to use...
#12

nytcrawlr

Feb 20, 2004 21:10:13
Originally posted by Mach2.5
A love triangle? Interesting. Assuming the SKs had at least a moderate amount of contact with eachother during the Clensing Wars, its only natural that they would develope a sense of comaraderie, perhaps even affection towards certain members. I like the idea.

Makes sense to me.

So, who spurned who and why? Did Dregoth brush off Abalach-Re after a few centuries long affair? Did she go whoring around with Nibenay (that sly devil) to spite the Dread Lord?

Damn! Nib certainly knows how to get the affection he needs, what with all the templar wives he has and then smooching on Abalach-Re.

Or perhaps they competed for the attentions of the same person (yes, I'm open minded about things like that, one of the things I liked about the Pentad novel's openness about relationships). Perhaps Sielba or Andropinis, recalling the earlier thread derailment about Roman society.

Yeah, same here, whatever floats your boat, do it, as long as it doesn't intrude on others is my motto.

That's a good idea though, it definately would make for some interesting role playing and background.
#13

Pennarin

Feb 20, 2004 22:38:17
Originally posted by Mach2.5
A love triangle? Interesting. Assuming the SKs had at least a moderate amount of contact with eachother during the Clensing Wars [...]

Yeah, there was contact all right...

RaFoaDK:
Sielba was said to have visited the male champions over the years, and entertained relations with many of them. Hamanu said that since she was a dragon, they could actually have sex together without causing her body to catch fire from the heat of the metamorphosis (remember champions only wear enchanted cloth) and without tearing her skin from the fangs in their mouth.

Graphic. :D
#14

nytcrawlr

Feb 20, 2004 22:45:31
Lynn Abbey rux!
#15

xlorepdarkhelm_dup

Feb 20, 2004 23:33:52
yea, and that Hamanu killing Sielba and razing Yarmamuke is made out to be a lover's spat as well. All in all, it's not too bad an idea. Of course, the part that they could only intimately touch each other disregards the concept that Abalach-Re has had hundreds of children over her time as a Sorcerer-Monarch (one of which led the Veiled Alliance there, if I recall), and Nibenay toying with his female templars (unless he just liked to watch....)
#16

Pennarin

Feb 21, 2004 2:38:19
Its good that you always point the bad in what's good; if not then it would be bad, and that's not good...



-make brain work, Pen-

Hamanu could rein in his preternatural champion senses, virtually becoming blind to the supernatural world surrounding him.
It is said to be quite a distressing experience.

Something similar could be done with the physical characteristics of a champion, in effect using the unseen way to curb all those physical quirks.
But I would say it' be quite a distressing experience. ;)

You have to do what you have to do.
The moment comes and you want a son so it can be the prince of your city, or you're a particularly vain individual that needs to have power in all things, including having more children than godly possible, or you're a control-freak who requires to personnaly ensure the loyalty of your underlings through a very special bond... ;)