|#1PennarinFeb 20, 2004 17:25:37||Consider this: In Lynn Abbey's novels, the guardian/spirit of the land is an alien entity with whom only a druid can hope to communicate. Thelami, being very wise, could do that, but it didn't talk to her with words or telepathy, but with a bond that is alien to anyone else.|
The same is true of the mad spirit in 'Heat LIghtning'. It's not able to communicate and think only of the land.
Then there is Desverendi: has a name, is able to talk, is known of Korgunard and responds to his summons...
I would surmise that the spirit was once a druid/psi that become an advanced being...
He and Korgunard might even have helped each other in their transformations.
|#2jaanosFeb 20, 2004 17:32:51||Hmm... possible, problem i have with this is thus:|
Druids don't like mages, even preservers, generally speaking. That's from canon material, BUT Avignons are also great forces of renewal, another little inconsistency in the cannon.
Basically, i thinks it's possible that three ways of becoming an avignon were developed:
The first, developed Oronis, is a magical transformation, as per 2e rules (20/20 + 10)
The second involves the assistance of a spirit of the an advanced being / spirit of the land - what you are hinting at.
The third... lost in time... is a Druid / Psion / Preserver (20/20/20 +10) who becomes an Avignal Spirit, gaurding a land with powerful magic...
|#3PennarinFeb 20, 2004 17:41:32||By 'help' I referred to mitigating factors in the casting of an epic metamorphosis spell.|
I don't think touching on alternative versions of existing metamorphoses should be touched on in 3E, only for homebrew.
My opinion... ;)
|#4elonarcFeb 21, 2004 10:47:07||Though not stated in Dragon Kings, perhaps it is an essential part in the avangion transformation to convince elemental beings / spirits of the land that you want to become a power of renewal. The preserver has to convince the beings that, although he uses magic, he wants to heal the land.|
That would be an explanation why an avangion is such a powerful force of renewal (he got his power from the land) and explain the mentioned outsiders in the metamorphosis spell.
Just an idea, I hope you got what I meant to say.