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#1 zombiegleemax Mar 04, 2004 0:19:41	Palin's Pyre is a shapable spell, I take that to mean you can make it a giant square, or a line, or so on. Does it require a surface to sit on? Or can it be shaped .... up into the air? I didn't know if it requires earth to sit on, or if its more like a fireball that can go off anywhere. Thanks a bunch!!!
#2 fiendish_dire_weasel Mar 04, 2004 1:48:03	From the 3.5 SRD (page 243): (S) Shapeable: If an Area or Effect entry ends with “(S),” you can shape the spell. A shaped effect or area can have no dimension smaller than 10 feet. Many effects or areas are given as cubes to make it easy to model irregular shapes. Threedimensional volumes are most often needed to define aerial or underwater effects and areas. So by definition the spell either isn't legal (tsk tsk designers! ;) ) with it's 5' squares or it has 5' square but you need to still make any dimension 10 feet on a side or it's supposed to just have 5 foot squares. Of course, it has no listed hieght so you technicly can't make it 10 feet high. Since it is expressed in square feet rather than cubes, the area of the spell has to rest on the ground since it technicly has no hieght (or a negligable one). Ultimatley it's probably just a victim of bad wording and something else for the errata... is there an errata?
#3 iltharanos Mar 04, 2004 5:09:38	Originally posted by FlyingCowKing Palin's Pyre is a shapable spell, I take that to mean you can make it a giant square, or a line, or so on. Does it require a surface to sit on? Or can it be shaped .... up into the air? I didn't know if it requires earth to sit on, or if its more like a fireball that can go off anywhere. Thanks a bunch!!! It seems pretty clear. One 5 foot square per caster level, and you summon gouts of fire from the ground. As long as it has a surface to sit on, you can shape it however you desire.
#4 agent_malucci_dup Mar 04, 2004 13:25:15	I thought it said that they had to be continuous squares. I am not positive, but i thought that was the only qualifier for this one. AM I don't have the book or anything, so my word is not exactly law ;)
#5 iltharanos Mar 04, 2004 17:43:02	Originally posted by Agent_Malucci I thought it said that they had to be continuous squares. I am not positive, but i thought that was the only qualifier for this one. AM I don't have the book or anything, so my word is not exactly law ;) Nah, it makes no mention of any contiguous squares. The range is close though, so that tends to limit the spell somewhat.
#6 zombiegleemax Mar 04, 2004 19:14:13	Is Palin as strong as Raistlin was with his magic now ? I saw him in the Age of Mortals book looking all beat up and was wondering if he had some kind of disease.
#7 iltharanos Mar 04, 2004 22:44:54	Originally posted by Ohgodno Is Palin as strong as Raistlin was with his magic now ? I saw him in the Age of Mortals book looking all beat up and was wondering if he had some kind of disease. Ye gads, no! :D First, Palin's a sorcerer ... second, Palin is but a pale imitation of the power and glory that is Raistlin. Long Live the Hourglass-Eyed God!
#8 daedavias_dup Mar 04, 2004 23:30:56	Originally posted by iltharanos Ye gads, no! :D First, Palin's a sorcerer ... second, Palin is but a pale imitation of the power and glory that is Raistlin. Long Live the Hourglass-Eyed God! I think it would be fair to say that Palin was a sorceror...but that is another story. Am I the only one that does not see the power in Palin's Pyre? Yes it can deal damage without worry of damaging allies(definitely a plus), but it just doesn't seem as powerful as spells like fireball
#9 iltharanos Mar 04, 2004 23:53:04	The power is that there is no save involved, no attack roll required, the enemy simply takes 3d6 fire damage automatically (barring immunities).
#10 daedavias_dup Mar 04, 2004 23:56:19	Originally posted by iltharanos The power is that there is no save involved, no attack roll required, the enemy simply takes 3d6 fire damage automatically (barring immunities). Jeez, I guess I should have looked a little closer at it before I made my judgement. Comment about its weakness retracted. I guess another good thing about the spell is that it can set creatures on fire.
#11 frostdawn Mar 05, 2004 8:23:56	Originally posted by Ohgodno Is Palin as strong as Raistlin was with his magic now ? I saw him in the Age of Mortals book looking all beat up and was wondering if he had some kind of disease. He looked all beat up because he was tortured for quite awhile. Was beaten, fingers broken, etc etc. IIRC, he didn't have any disesases though.