Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 The_White_Sorcerer Mar 20, 2004 18:37:19	The example Knight of the Crown NPC from the DM Screen booklet is flawed. How can a 3rd-level fighter have a base fortitude save bonus of +4?
#2 super_grover Mar 21, 2004 6:48:48	its not only ment for fighters . quickest way is ranger 1 fighter2. if yoy deside you want to get the KotS prc you are better off going cleric 4 into KotC. fastestr way in isnt always the best /shrug
#3 The_White_Sorcerer Mar 21, 2004 7:54:18	But the sample knight is a Ftr3/Crown2. Impossible. While Ftr3 meets the BAB requirement, it falls short from the Fort requirement. The other knights are also flawed. Ftr3/Clr1/Crown2=BAB +5, Will +3. Doesn't meet the requirements of the Sword Knight. Ftr3/Clr1/Crown2/Sword3=BAB +7, Will +6. Doesn't meet the requirements of the Rose Knight. Unless the requirements in the DLCS have received errata, then these characters are impossible.
#4 cam_banks Mar 21, 2004 8:16:03	Originally posted by The White Sorcerer But the sample knight is a Ftr3/Crown2. Impossible. While Ftr3 meets the BAB requirement, it falls short from the Fort requirement. All three knights should have had one additional level of fighter (giving them +1 to attacks, +6 hp, +1 CR, +1 Fort saves, 2 ranks in Handle Animal, and the Cleave feat). Not sure how that extra fighter level got missed - sorry about that! Cheers, Cam
#5 darthsylver Mar 21, 2004 10:59:10	Just keeping with the DL traditions of misprints.
#6 lily_knight Mar 22, 2004 4:57:10	Ouch! That was harsh. Still, when you pay something like $89.90AUS (I think it would be like $40 something US) for a book you do expect a higher degree of quality...
#7 cam_banks Mar 22, 2004 5:36:37	Originally posted by Lily_Knight Ouch! That was harsh. Still, when you pay something like $89.90AUS (I think it would be like $40 something US) for a book you do expect a higher degree of quality... You paid AUS$80 for the DM Screen? That's a little much... Cheers, Cam
#8 brimstone Mar 22, 2004 9:07:31	Originally posted by Lily_Knight Ouch! That was harsh. Still, when you pay something like $89.90AUS (I think it would be like $40 something US) for a book you do expect a higher degree of quality... Whoa! I hope you are just mistaken about the price...most people I know paid well under half of that... That sucks.
#9 cam_banks Mar 22, 2004 9:23:18	Originally posted by Brimstone Whoa! I hope you are just mistaken about the price...most people I know paid well under half of that... That sucks. I used to run a gaming store back in my hometown of Auckland, New Zealand, in the mid-90's. Prices were pretty steep then, and last I heard they're even more pricy now. The current improvement of the NZ and AUS dollars against the US might help out some, but I can still recall the markup was pretty odious. Cheers, Cam
#10 The_White_Sorcerer Mar 22, 2004 9:26:33	Originally posted by Lily_Knight Still, when you pay something like $89.90AUS (I think it would be like $40 something US) for a book you do expect a higher degree of quality... Whoa. And I thought our prices were steep when Age of Mortals was 53⁈. But $40 for a DM's screen? Dude, that's... Whoa.
#11 Nived Mar 22, 2004 9:32:24	Whoa man, I only paid $15 US for the DM Screen... that's a mark up of more than half if your conversion tables are correct.
#12 angal Mar 22, 2004 22:22:52	The D&D DM screen is like 24$ so i think the DL one will be the same, i still havn't seen it and don't have the money to get it either, But I think the 86 or whatever the person payed was for the Campain setting, but I could be wrong and New Zealand just hates D&D and wants to weed out the nerds
#13 The_White_Sorcerer Mar 23, 2004 5:15:35	Originally posted by Cam Banks Not sure how that extra fighter level got missed - sorry about that! Don't blame yourself. ... Blame Dragonhelm. He did the proofreading.
#14 brimstone Mar 23, 2004 13:52:35	Originally posted by The White Sorcerer Blame Dragonhelm. He did the proofreading. I don't think that was truly necessary was it? :fight!:
#15 The_White_Sorcerer Mar 23, 2004 13:54:17	Originally posted by Brimstone I don't think that was truly necessary was it? Brim, you take me far too seriously sometimes.
#16 brimstone Mar 23, 2004 14:13:36	Originally posted by The White Sorcerer Brim, you take me far too seriously sometimes. Sorry... I've really been on the defensive lately.
#17 lily_knight Mar 23, 2004 16:11:32	Ok, Ok, when I made that statement about paying $89.90Aus I was refering to the DLCS, not the DM Screen. This goes back to a discussion a while back I had with friends concerning the mistakes found in the campaign setting. It is an unfair generalisation I have made and I am sorry for it. In reality, the DM screen cost me $30Aus, which is like $20US. I suppose it is a little extra because of shipping fees, the Australian dollar and the markup made by all the middle distributers.
#18 daedavias_dup Mar 23, 2004 16:17:19	Originally posted by Brimstone Sorry... I've really been on the defensive lately. Yeah, but that is ok. Just as long as you don't become violent. As to the NPCs having errors, oh well. I can never write my characters levels out right on these boards, so I can understand this.