However, many of the fans have created their own trader write-ups. I'm sure they'll whistle soon.
Well, one could argue that gladiator is covered by fighter, no?
Something to think about Sonja is that the Dark Sun 3 project wasn't started yesterday. It's been worked on for a few years now (since the official sanction from WotC was handed to athas.org, I'd imagine, which was.... 4 years ago? or 3?). Many topics and ideas have been debated, and considered, then closed. Only to be reopened, re-debated, reconsidered, and closed once more. This seems to happen in waves - popular topics are Dragons & other Advanced Beings, monsters, classes, feats, magic, Preservers & Defilers, and the list goes on. The funny thing about it is that it seems that when one person starts to question a part, a dozen more ask the exact same question within one week of the first post, occasionally with salightly-reworded text. This tends to annoy me and a few other more frequent posters, since the answer to the person's question is in a topic on the first page of this forum's listing. I've attributed it to human laziness, to an extreme. To be too laxzy to even read the different topic headings on the front page is beyond me.
Luckily, you didn't do that. However, Trader class questions are relatively common, from time to time. I think what you are looking for will be found on the Silt Skimmer site that Grummore runs. He has both a Base Class & Prestige Class version, if I recall. I don't remember if he had updatedf for 3.5e, or if it's only in 3.0e (which shouldn't be too hard to convert).
I'd personally suggest, however, to review the rogue class as presented in the DS3 document on athas.org. Many of the things you'd be looking for in a Trader is available in the Rogue.
And to respond to your comment on Gladiators & Fighters, I'd say the Gladiator is closer to a Barbarian (Brute) than a Fighter. However, the Gladiator is a pretty integral part of the Dark Sun environment (and I know, argueably, the Trader is too). The difference is that the Trader's more of a non-combat class. In 3.0/3.5 terms, that puts them closer to being an NPC class, like the Expert. This is probably one of the big reasons that the Trader has been simply dealt with through the Rogue and Expert classes.
Does that help?
Originally posted by xlorepdarkhelm
And to respond to your comment on Gladiators & Fighters, I'd say the Gladiator is closer to a Barbarian (Brute) than a Fighter. However, the Gladiator is a pretty integral part of the Dark Sun environment (and I know, argueably, the Trader is too).
Sorry to nitpick, but I've always felt that the Gladiator was Athas' twisted version of the Paladin. A hero for the masses, but without the special abilities.
As a newbie to DS3, I am learning how everything works, and I am bound to have some questions as I explore all parts of Dark Sun and want to make sure I understand how everything converts to 3.5e.
Maybe we should add all these oft-repeated questions in the FAQ. Or maybe this should be mentioned in the core DS3 rulebook. Players looking to convert a trader would see, "ah it's Rogue now in 3rd edition", or whatever.
Originally posted by Sonja
Maybe we should add all these oft-repeated questions in the FAQ. Or maybe this should be mentioned in the core DS3 rulebook. Players looking to convert a trader would see, "ah it's Rogue now in 3rd edition", or whatever.
Trust me, you're not alone in wanting this. :D
Originally posted by xlorepdarkhelm
[B This tends to annoy me and a few other more frequent posters, since the answer to the person's question is in a topic on the first page of this forum's listing. [/b]
Yet another reason why I've been staying away.
Btw, how are you doing xlorep?
Board FAQ...
As a newbie to DS3, I am learning how everything works, and I am bound to have some questions as I explore all parts of Dark Sun and want to make sure I understand how everything converts to 3.5e.
Don't sweat it. You actually got off rather easy. Xlore's losing his touch ;)
First rule: Search. If that doesn't help, then apply the Second Rule: Ask. Even if its considered 'case closed' by long timers, there's always some new faces with new perspectives. Some of the 'dead kank' topics still have no resolution, or are what I would consider barely resolved. Of course, I would recomend doing a search or two and gather some resources from these threads and elsewhere.
Originally posted by Sonja
Thanks for the help, everyone.
Maybe we should add all these oft-repeated questions in the FAQ. Or maybe this should be mentioned in the core DS3 rulebook. Players looking to convert a trader would see, "ah it's Rogue now in 3rd edition", or whatever.
Trust me, you're not alone in wanting this. :D
No, we do NOT was this!
We all want a trader class!!!! Trader's in darksun, are MUCH more important than in any other D&D settings. They are a important part of all plots, scenes and diplomacy of all athasian cities.
From my trader class :
Athasian trader is a supplement for those who wish to add flavor to the world of Darksun. Traders are the blood of Athas. Everything will eventually pass by their hands. They are needed to ensure the way of life everyone wish to preserve and they keep the land active and healthy (or wealthy!) as possible. The trader class is essential to a good Darksun campaign, as PC or even more as NPCs.
A fighter to is groupmate trader: ”Hey Artag, how about buying me that metal greatsword? That will help the group, don’t you think?” And the trader to answer, while taking is purse: ”But of
course Melkama, just remember your trader friend when we will find something new, strange and fascinating”. Artag smiled at this new and simple deal made with is groupmate. “What a simple
couple of gold can do isnt?” though Artag.
More thoughs in the pdf.
Of course, it's not yet modified to 3.5. Although, I intend eventually, to redo it.
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Originally posted by Grummore
No, we do NOT was this!
We all want a trader class!!!!
Chill silly frog boy, I ws speaking of the FAQ. :P
And no, not all of us want a Trader class, though I will go so far as saying that *most* want a trader class. ;)
Originally posted by Elonarc
:D Jon is even considering giving in to the demands of the masses? Where has the angry lighning-bolt-throwing overlord gone? :D
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Well, ya know, it happened with the "Bread for the Masses" defiling thread... Sooo I guess all we have to do is crank up the trader-fever so it's generating a couple of thousand views a week. Y'think?
Originally posted by Jon, Oracle of Athas
*Kicks Flip in the head.*
Board FAQ...
Ah. Hrm. Well, I can certainly see what I can do about that.
Course, I was working on a FAQ module for the site as a higher priority ...