|#1zombiegleemaxApr 20, 2004 18:13:00||I was wondering if anyone new any information on a 3.0 or 3.5 Version of the Undead Tarrasque. In my current campaign he would be most useful. thanks!|
|#2xlorepdarkhelm_dupApr 20, 2004 18:21:35||Undead Tarrasque? That doesn't sound very Athasian, and I don't remember seeing it in any Dark Sun material. It's an interesting idea, however, and as there is a) the Tarrasque in both 3.0 & 3.5 Monster Manuals, and b) multiple Undead templates in the MM's and other sources, as well as multiple Dark Sun Undead Templates found in Terrors of the Dead Lands that could be applied to the Tarrasque... they I'd have to say you could piece it together from there.|
|#3nytcrawlrApr 20, 2004 18:33:02||Undead Tarrasque forever!|
Wasn't in any official DS, but was part of the guy that did a whole site dedicated to the Dead Lands.
Gerald Arthur Lewis I think.
|#4zombiegleemaxApr 20, 2004 22:10:05||I thought Lewis had the scary undead thing as actually a twisted insane undead half-gnome avangion. Thought the undead tarrasque came from someone else (I know at least I had the same idea independent of other people so it couldn't have been that rare an idea for the Deadlands).|
I'm not kidding about the undead half-gnome avangion either.
|#5nytcrawlrApr 20, 2004 22:12:53|
Originally posted by Cap'n Nick
I think he had both actually.
Could be wrong though.
Grummore has all that info on his site now.
|#6jon_oracle_of_athasApr 21, 2004 2:34:47||I'll confirm that there is no official undead tarrasque.|
|#7nytcrawlrApr 21, 2004 14:21:15||Hush, it'll hear you.|
|#8dawnstealerApr 21, 2004 17:00:32||Actually, Jon, there's specific canon information on the undead tarrasque. It's on page 1233333333----------90392. Damn, my keyboard stuck. Well, it's in the dla;o so[pd[ book. Damn! Did it again!|
You'll just have to trust me. It's right there under the sections about dwelfs.
|#9nytcrawlrApr 21, 2004 17:50:42||And since dwelfs is it's main staple diet, it has to exist!|
|#10Shei-NadApr 22, 2004 9:18:53||I think there should be an undead Tarrasque.|
One of Dark Sun's main theme is to take D&D things and twist them to make them athasian (darker, meaner, exotic).
That monster is supposed to be the unique most dangerous critter there is in D&D. From what I understand, its present in Greyhawk (core setting) and Forgotten Realms (How the mighty are Fallen, FR 1e adventure). I think it should go in Dark Sun as well, but of course, this means it should be darker, meaner and exotic
The Undead Tarrasque thing is a great way to go. Its certainly darker. It would be par of the setting's history (I'm thinking gnomes, ever the tinkers, tried to use some nature-bending techniques to created a living weapon against the champions. The Obsidian flow prevented the Tarrasque from ever being released, but it lived, and became undead, trapped under the obsidian.). And as for the meaner thing: The one thing that gives the setting some respite against the Tarrasque is that it sleeps for so long and is active for such a short period. Well, undeads don't sleep...
|#11xlorepdarkhelm_dupApr 22, 2004 10:11:59||IIRC, in the MM 3 & 35 write-up, it explains that there is only 1 Tarrasque (ever), however That makes me less inclined to include it into Dark Sun|
|#12dawnstealerApr 22, 2004 10:47:33||Sure, but there's no reason why you couldn't have a "Blue Age" weapon that is remarkably similar to a tarrasque. An undead tarrasque.|
That eats dwelfs.
|#13sgio_karka_dupApr 22, 2004 11:07:03||one tarrasque?|
It is not a big problem..
In AD&D 2E, they say that there was one tarrasque for each world (or universe, or sphere... etc.)
|#14zombiegleemaxApr 22, 2004 11:31:55||I don't recall an undead Tarrasque, but I do recall an undead land shark (bullette) that some one wrote up. |
Actually I found the write up for both on this page here.
Enjoy. You can bow at my feet later. ;)
|#15Shei-NadApr 22, 2004 13:33:59||Heh!|
Check the whole site, friend. The Undead Tarrasque, credited to G. A. Lewis, is there as well!
BTW, I've been reading through his material. Interesting. Not so sure about the half-gnome undead avangion, but the concept and story is pretty interesting. Actually, the only real thing that bugs me is the half-gnome part, because I have trouble imagining a free and loving union between a gnome male and a human female. Physiologically, it doesn't seem to quite fit.
I do like the ''Obsidian Wave'' thing though, and how it happenned, and the ''Seventh Tree'' thing too. From what I understand, however, it seems to diverge from the Secrets of the Deadlands book (which is unreleased, yet we know somethings). The Obsidian flow, especially, makes much more sense, and is a lot more flavorable, than the magma gate, to me at least.
Anyhow, interesting reading. I still don't think my players will venture there often anyways.
That's actually something Athas products like to do. Give us info on places away, and different, from the Tyr Region, where PCs would be less likely to venture. Its not bad, of course, but I'd like more things like City-State of Tyr. City-State of Draj is very well done, IMO, by the way. City-State of Urik should really be THE project we should get started.
Anyways, I'll stop rambling.
|#16nytcrawlrApr 22, 2004 15:04:09|
Originally posted by xlorepdarkhelm
One tarrasque ever for each campaign world.
You need to re-read that, heh.
In fact there is a whole SJ world with these guys as the core inhabitants, but they are noble and no where near as aggressive, they only become like the ones in the MM when they get seperated from the society.
|#17nytcrawlrApr 22, 2004 15:06:09|
Originally posted by Ground_State Johnny
Been looking for that for awhile now, I knew I wasn't insane, lol.
|#18zombiegleemaxApr 22, 2004 15:30:32||Undead tarrasque? Is it created by the invading-space-halflings-wielding-laser-guns-and-riding-giant-space-hamsters?|
|#19zombiegleemaxApr 24, 2004 14:57:40||dawnstealer, i can't believe you're spreading such slanderous lies. there are no such thing as dwelfs--never have been, never will be.|
they're called dwelves.
|#20xlorepdarkhelm_dupApr 24, 2004 17:53:18|
Originally posted by motorfirebox
Naa. it's dwelfs. Dawnstealer's been playing too much Shadowrun :P
|#21monastyrskiApr 25, 2004 20:07:39|
Originally posted by xlorepdarkhelm
The only question is if they are cross-fertile with orclings!
|#22dawnstealerApr 25, 2004 21:42:26||Now that's just ridiculous. You don't see me out there making up races...|
|#23jon_oracle_of_athasApr 26, 2004 10:50:40||:D|