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Concerning Celestials and the Rilmani

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#1
rikutatis
Jun 10, 2004 9:00:31 In 2e AD&D a lot was published about the fiends under the banner of the PS products (Faces of Evil: The Fiends, Hellbound: The Blood War). But what about the celestials? I want to incorporate them in a future campaign and add more depth to their ranks, politics, society, etc. What are my best bets to find detailed info of them, preferably from PS products? I heard about a non-PS book, Warriors of Heaven. Is it any good?

On a different subject, I also need more information about the Rilmani. Where can I find it? I understand I won't find anything detailed about them, given their mysterious nature and all. But anything that mentions them or the Kameral can be helpful.

Thanks in advance.
#2
ripvanwormer
Jun 10, 2004 15:10:04
Originally posted by Rikutatis
In 2e AD&D a lot was published about the fiends under the banner of the PS products (Faces of Evil: The Fiends, Hellbound: The Blood War). But what about the celestials? I want to incorporate them in a future campaign and add more depth to their ranks, politics, society, etc. What are my best bets to find detailed info of them, preferably from PS products? I heard about a non-PS book, Warriors of Heaven. Is it any good?

No. It's not any good at all. It will only disappoint you unless what you are looking for are rules for playing toned-down versions of celestials as PCs.

There is no Faces of Evil-like depth in it. What detail is provided mainly serves to make celestials more like demihumans.

There are a few web resources for celestials and rilmani. Center-of-All is currently writing about the rilmani.

I recommend Dreams of Dreams .

I also put some stuff on my website .
#3
gray_richardson
Jun 11, 2004 1:40:21 Cool site Rip!

I read your story about about the Ursinal sage. But I have to wonder.
he let a bit of his soul shine out, his love filling the room like a silent roar

was he really an Ursinal or a Care-Bear?

And come to think of it... maybe all the Care-Bears were actually Ursinals. Or vice-versa.
#4
ripvanwormer
Jun 11, 2004 16:59:26
Originally posted by Gray Richardson

And come to think of it... maybe all the Care-Bears were actually Ursinals. Or vice-versa.

I think you may be right, but care bears are ursinals that have been castrated or spayed shortly after birth and not allowed puberty. I think they may be a fiendish and/or rilmani plot.
#5
rikutatis
Jun 12, 2004 22:12:48 Lots of useful information in those sites, I'm sure I can make good use of it. Thanks a lot!

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 rikutatis Jun 10, 2004 9:00:31	In 2e AD&D a lot was published about the fiends under the banner of the PS products (Faces of Evil: The Fiends, Hellbound: The Blood War). But what about the celestials? I want to incorporate them in a future campaign and add more depth to their ranks, politics, society, etc. What are my best bets to find detailed info of them, preferably from PS products? I heard about a non-PS book, Warriors of Heaven. Is it any good? On a different subject, I also need more information about the Rilmani. Where can I find it? I understand I won't find anything detailed about them, given their mysterious nature and all. But anything that mentions them or the Kameral can be helpful. Thanks in advance.
#2 ripvanwormer Jun 10, 2004 15:10:04	Originally posted by Rikutatis In 2e AD&D a lot was published about the fiends under the banner of the PS products (Faces of Evil: The Fiends, Hellbound: The Blood War). But what about the celestials? I want to incorporate them in a future campaign and add more depth to their ranks, politics, society, etc. What are my best bets to find detailed info of them, preferably from PS products? I heard about a non-PS book, Warriors of Heaven. Is it any good? No. It's not any good at all. It will only disappoint you unless what you are looking for are rules for playing toned-down versions of celestials as PCs. There is no Faces of Evil-like depth in it. What detail is provided mainly serves to make celestials more like demihumans. There are a few web resources for celestials and rilmani. Center-of-All is currently writing about the rilmani. I recommend Dreams of Dreams . I also put some stuff on my website .
#3 gray_richardson Jun 11, 2004 1:40:21	Cool site Rip! I read your story about about the Ursinal sage. But I have to wonder. he let a bit of his soul shine out, his love filling the room like a silent roar was he really an Ursinal or a Care-Bear? And come to think of it... maybe all the Care-Bears were actually Ursinals. Or vice-versa.
#4 ripvanwormer Jun 11, 2004 16:59:26	Originally posted by Gray Richardson And come to think of it... maybe all the Care-Bears were actually Ursinals. Or vice-versa. I think you may be right, but care bears are ursinals that have been castrated or spayed shortly after birth and not allowed puberty. I think they may be a fiendish and/or rilmani plot.
#5 rikutatis Jun 12, 2004 22:12:48	Lots of useful information in those sites, I'm sure I can make good use of it. Thanks a lot!