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#1 zombiegleemax Jun 24, 2004 9:09:56	If an outsider enters a domain and userps control of an area, can the dark lord enter that area. If not... You summon a pit fiend (20,000 feet rad wrinkle) near DL, does the mist spirit them away? Or you summon a really big outsider who's wrinkle is bigger than a domain, can the DL escape into a nearby domain? Can you sneak out of a domain with sealed borders by summoning a 2 HD outsider (3,000 feet) and making him straddle the border while you all pile through? Just wondering.
#2 malus_black Jun 24, 2004 9:39:50	Originally posted by Grimfondle If an outsider enters a domain and usurps control of an area, can the dark lord enter that area. If I recall correctly, yes, although the darklord loses all the powers gained from being a darklord while inside the reality wrinkle. Can you sneak out of a domain with sealed borders by summoning a 2 HD outsider (3,000 feet) and making him straddle the border while you all pile through? Yes.
#3 zombiegleemax Jun 28, 2004 1:56:14	In that case, cant a Darklord summon a fiend, make him straddle a border and escape his domain? The rules dont say he cant, but that would lead to an entertaining proposition of darkloards wandering into eachothers domains and beating eachother up a lot.
#4 zombiegleemax Jun 28, 2004 2:18:32	Sometimes reality wrinkles give me such a head ache. I personally have always given outsiders a smaller reality wrinkle than the official rules. This lessens the potential for a headache. The will of the mists and DPs isn't so easily thwarted IMO as to allow a DL to summon a critter with a reality wrinkle and leave his or her domain. Though heavy handed I can see mists rising and then clearing leaving a DL still stranded in their prison. As I think about the issue some DLs wouldn't necessarily want to leave their domain (Strahd needs to find Tatyana, Azalin wouldn't settle for a smaller & less prestigious domain...etc). Bear in mind that Gwydion is a tremendously powerful outsider and hasn't been able to escape his imprisonment in the obsidean gate despite what one presumes to be a tremendous reality wrinkle. I personally have an add hoc rule about outsiders forcing domain borders as well. An outsider can make a level check by rolling a d20 and adding its level once per 10 minuets of effort. If the roll exceeds the HD of the DL then the border is forced within its reality wrinkle. This has the effect of making Strahd, Azalin and the "big guns" more secure while still giving outsiders leeway to break rules and cause havok around the core. -Eric Gorman
#5 gotten Jun 28, 2004 8:10:37	Originally posted by Grimfondle In that case, cant a Darklord summon a fiend, make him straddle a border and escape his domain? The rules dont say he cant, but that would lead to an entertaining proposition of darkloards wandering into eachothers domains and beating eachother up a lot. I strongly advise against it, at least if you want to keep the feel of the RL setting. That would go against the base principle of RL - it's a prison for darkolrds. None is allowed to move out, so a reality wrinkle woundn't work for them. Azalin propably already tried it with his quazit familiar, and failed. Joël
#6 zombiegleemax Jun 28, 2004 10:14:44	Originally posted by Grimfondle In that case, cant a Darklord summon a fiend, make him straddle a border and escape his domain? The rules dont say he cant, but that would lead to an entertaining proposition of darkloards wandering into eachothers domains and beating eachother up a lot. Not to mention angry fiends, once they realize they can't get back, rampaging through the land seeking revenge on their summoners. I don't think I'd want to go there myself.
#7 malus_black Jun 29, 2004 5:57:51	Originally posted by Grimfondle In that case, cant a Darklord summon a fiend, make him straddle a border and escape his domain? I think the best answer can be found in CotN: Demons. Excerpt from CotN: Demons Within the wrinkle, darklords effectively lose the rulership of their domain. Although they can't leave their prison, they lose all the abilities that being a lord brings So even within a reality wrinkle, a darklord would be unable to cross their border, although exactly what happens when they try to do this is another question. Originally posted by Gotten Azalin propably already tried it with his quazit familiar, and failed. Nitpicking, I know, but familiars don't have reality wrinkles as they're bound to a mortal (or, in this case, an immortal).