Do DL elves have a telepathic link with griffons ?

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#1

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 8:11:34
This MAY be a dumb question but I do not have my books with me at the current time. In one of the original DL trilogy books Alhana Starbreeze calls her griffons to her telepathically.

What I want to know is do the elves in DL have telepathic links with the griffons ?

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#2

jonesy

Jul 13, 2004 8:36:10
Originally posted by LordofIllusions
In one of the original DL trilogy books Alhana Starbreeze calls her griffons to her telepathically.

No, I don't think she did. I'm going through my copies of the Chronicles and can't find anything like that. Could you cite the part of the story where you recall it?
#3

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 8:38:37
Originally posted by jonesy
No, I don't think she did. I'm going through my copies of the Chronicles and can't find anything like that. Could you cite the part of the story where you recall it?

Sure. Dragons of Winter Night pgs 68-69 & pgs 86-87.

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#4

jonesy

Jul 13, 2004 8:44:42
Found it. Page 73 on my DoWN.

That's funny. It really does say she uses telepathy. I never even took notice.
#5

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 8:51:09
Some elves have the abilty to use psionincs, though it extremely rare, and has weakened significantly over the millenia... It follows bloodlines, the Slvanesti & Qualinesti Elven Royal families have it in their ancestry, and that is why Alhana was able to use it...
There are several such instances throughout the Saga, and I believe either Tracy or Marg flat-out said it in the Annotated chronicles...
#6

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 8:54:10
Originally posted by jonesy
Found it. Page 73 on my DoWN.

That's funny. It really does say she uses telepathy. I never even took notice.

That is why I was wondering is THAT some kind of mechanic about the DL elves that the writers missed or what ? Let me know please because if they DO have telepathy I want to have them using it in my campaign.

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#7

iltharanos

Jul 13, 2004 9:06:30
Interestingly enough, in at least one of the Kingpriest trilogy novels, Quarath (the corrupt Silvanesti advisor to the Kingpriest) is stated as:

"He could sense the griffins now, circling high above."

"He sent his mind questing, seeking one of the griffins ... "

So it doesn't flat out call it telepathy, but it certainly seems as though there is some sort of greater-than-normal connection there. As for a game-mechanic explanation, it's possible that this ability is due to:

1. A feat:

e.g.
Griffin Rider
You have an innate connection to trained griffins:
Prerequisites: Silvanesti elf
Benefits: You can communicate telepathically with any "domesticated" griffons within 100 ft. of your position.

2. A prestige class that has a similar class ability as the above feat (or maybe gives you the above feat for free).

3. A spell:

e.g. Silvanesti clerics/wizards cast some spell that creates a permanent (or long duration) telepathic ability between griffins and elves.

4. Griffins != Griffons. Griffins are variants of Griffons that have been raised and bred by the Silvanesti for so many generations that there is simply a greater (i.e. telepathic) connection between them and their masters.
#8

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 9:07:49
Thanks. Can we get an OFFICIAL standpoint on here as well ?

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#9

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 10:22:34
I almost want to say that elves were able to tap into a latent ability to channel mysticism (mentalism)
#10

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 10:25:22
Again:
"Telepathy was an ancient art known among the Silvanesti elves and, prior to the cataclysm, was practiced primarily only by the royal staff for purposes of administering royal edicts across the rather large expanse of Silvanesti. After the Cataclysm, telepathis use dwindled even further until, by the time of the war of the Lance, it was known only among the royal household itself. It fell into complete disuse soon thereafter." - Tracy Hickman

I repete that was in the Annotated chronicles. it is filled with cool stuff like that, you really should consider its purchase...
There are more instances of such activity in the Elven nations Trilogy...
#11

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 10:33:40
Dang, I missed your ORIGINAL posting with that information in it. I usually scroll right to the bottom. Thank you Apocalypse.

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#12

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 11:41:22
So only royal elves have this ability?
#13

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 11:51:33
Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn
So only royal elves have this ability?

THAT'S what I am asking. Because if OTHER elves have it as well to some extent I am adding in some house rules.

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#14

brimstone

Jul 13, 2004 12:04:45
Originally posted by LordofIllusions
THAT'S what I am asking. Because if OTHER elves have it as well to some extent I am adding in some house rules.

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I would say that no they don't (except for rare exceptions in the royal bloodlines) to true telepathy.

However...with the discovery of mysticism (most specifically the sphere, Mentalism), perhaps some elves have tried to recapture the ancient ability of telepathy...I'm betting that although they no longer possess true telepathy, they may have a unique intunement (is that a word?) to Mentalism.

Just a thought.
#15

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 12:06:32
If it is a house rule then it is a house rule. I dont think that anything official would change that.
#16

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 12:06:52
Originally posted by Brimstone
I would say that no they don't (except for rare exceptions in the royal bloodlines) to true telepathy.

However...with the discovery of mysticism (most specifically the sphere, Mentalism), perhaps some elves have tried to recapture the ancient ability of telepathy...I'm betting that although they no longer possess true telepathy, they may have a unique intunement (is that a word?) to Mentalism.

Just a thought.

Hmmm that gives me an idea.

I was thinking of toying around with some mechanics from The Wheel of Time RPG anyway(Latent abilities, etc.) and THIS gives me the reason to make a certain NEW PLAYER'S elven character VERY unique(Within reason of course.).

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#17

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 12:11:51
the mentalism sphere might not be a bad explanation for this ability.
#18

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 12:32:50
Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn
the mentalism sphere might not be a bad explanation for this ability.

I will have to read up on it once I get a chance.

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#19

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 12:37:41
Please let us know what you decide to do.
#20

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 12:39:40
Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn
Please let us know what you decide to do.

Sure thing I should have made up my mind(Yes it takes me THAT long.) by Friday at least.

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#21

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 12:43:53
is the elf in question a mystic or what class does he play?
#22

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 12:45:55
Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn
is the elf in question a mystic or what class does he play?

He has not decided yet what he wants to play-class wise. Like I said I run various groups. I have a MAIN group, a back-up 2nd group, AND a cameo appearance group. This guy is going to be part of the latter.

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#23

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 13:00:04
If he is a back up character who is popping up once in a while, why go through all of this work?
#24

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 13:03:02
Originally posted by Amaron Blackthorn
If he is a back up character who is popping up once in a while, why go through all of this work?

Heh. It's not work for me. I actually ENJOY creating new stuff for the campaign. Besides if he works out the way I THINK he will his character will eventually become permanent once Spectre of Sorrows comes out. *Gears turning in head*

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#25

zombiegleemax

Jul 13, 2004 13:05:26
PLEASE keep us abreast of the situation. It sounds like it will work out well for all parties involved.
#26

zombiegleemax

Jul 27, 2004 10:30:03
I think it is more of a bond