miniatures and Dragonlance..convert some of em?

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#1

true_blue

Jul 23, 2004 4:24:49
So I was sitting there looking at some of my miniatures and decided, you know what I need...some dragonspawn. So I've decided to take a few of my Baaz draconians and start repainting them into different colors to make a few dragonspawn. Also, I think I'm going to go buy more Kapaks and maybe recolor some of them also.

Its nice that Wizards made a few miniatures for Dragonlance like the two draconians, but I'm starting to want more. I've been using the Young Minotaurs in on of the packs as average minotaurs in Dragonlance since they are medium. I've started looking at some of my doubles and triples of certain ones and how I can convert them into Dragonlance miniatures heh.

I have some of the old Dragonlance specific miniatures from Ral Partha and that helps. Was wondering if anyone else collected miniatures at all and if they decided to repaint any to make them more Dragonlance-y?

I know Brimstone had a thread about this awhile back, but figured I'd write a new one.
#2

zombiegleemax

Jul 23, 2004 8:01:21
I collect Games Workshop miniatures. I don´t play Warhammer or anything like that...I guess I´m just a collector. I don´t see many options for some kind of Dragonlance conversion in these miniatures...the only faction I could use for Dragonlance would be Bretonnians. They´d make excellent Knights of Solamnia. Oh and dwarfs of course!

Aaah Ral Partha...brings back happy memories. I used to own every Dragonlance miniature they released. For some dumb reason I sold ´em...stupid stupid stupid!

Ravenmantle
#3

zombiegleemax

Jul 23, 2004 8:13:31
Originally posted by True_Blue
So I was sitting there looking at some of my miniatures and decided, you know what I need...some dragonspawn. So I've decided to take a few of my Baaz draconians and start repainting them into different colors to make a few dragonspawn. Also, I think I'm going to go buy more Kapaks and maybe recolor some of them also.

Its nice that Wizards made a few miniatures for Dragonlance like the two draconians, but I'm starting to want more. I've been using the Young Minotaurs in on of the packs as average minotaurs in Dragonlance since they are medium. I've started looking at some of my doubles and triples of certain ones and how I can convert them into Dragonlance miniatures heh.

I have some of the old Dragonlance specific miniatures from Ral Partha and that helps. Was wondering if anyone else collected miniatures at all and if they decided to repaint any to make them more Dragonlance-y?

I know Brimstone had a thread about this awhile back, but figured I'd write a new one.

My memory isn't great, but it seems like there were some figures from a past MageKnight set that would make great Dragonspawn.

Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
#4

zombiegleemax

Jul 23, 2004 8:27:56
And here comes my first disagreement with Jamie.....I absolutely hated Mage Knight. Not so much the games....but the minis themselves. My local hobby shop tried to pass the MK Dragonman race off to me as WotC draconians......needless to say I travel to the city for my mini's now

I think it would be cool to see a line of DL MIni's from SP somehow......is that at all possible in the least?
#5

zombiegleemax

Jul 23, 2004 8:31:15
Originally posted by Serena DarkMyst
And here comes my first disagreement with Jamie.....I absolutely hated Mage Knight. Not so much the games....but the minis themselves. My local hobby shop tried to pass the MK Dragonman race off to me as WotC draconians......needless to say I travel to the city for my mini's now

I think it would be cool to see a line of DL MIni's from SP somehow......is that at all possible in the least?

Our current license with Wizards of the Coast does not include the rights to produce Dragonlance-related miniatures, though the prospect truly excites me! We produced high-quality miniatures sculpted by Julie Guthrie to go with our Sovereign Stone game line a few years ago.

I'm happy to see, however, that Wizards of the Coast includes the occaisional Dragonlance character or creature in some of their miniatures sets. We have draconians, Lord Soth... and at least one other character that for a future set.

(Yes, that's a deliberate tease!)

Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
#6

zombiegleemax

Jul 23, 2004 8:31:46
I think it´s more likely that WotC will continue to release Dragonlance miniatures mixed with FR miniatures and core miniatures the way they´ve been doing so far, although it would be cool to see a release focused on Dragonlance!

Ravenmantle

Edit: Me and my slow fingers...once again I was too slow!
#7

valharic

Jul 23, 2004 9:16:54
Reaper miniatures are probably the best line for fantasy minatures right now. They have a good variety of minatures that I like to use. I constantly browse their gallery to look for minatures to fit the DL world. Recently they started a line of reptilian figures. One of them is called a Reptus Shaman, hyperlinked there, and I'm turning that into an Aurak Draconian. There are other Reptus mini's out there. Their only drawback is they have no wings, but that is perfect for auraks since they don't.
#8

cam_banks

Jul 23, 2004 9:29:23
Originally posted by Valharic
Reaper miniatures are probably the best line for fantasy minatures right now. They have a good variety of minatures that I like to use. I constantly browse their gallery to look for minatures to fit the DL world. Recently they started a line of reptilian figures.

I've got a reptus shaman that's being painted up to be a sivak right now. Reaper are truly my group's company of choice - every one of the player character minis is a Reaper model. I even use a succubus miniature (with appropriate adjustments...) for Sindra. I ordered a bunch of kapaks and baaz from a company that sells individual WOTC miniatures, but I prefer to paint up my own. It helps that my players include some very talented mini painters!

Cheers,
Cam
#9

Sysane

Jul 23, 2004 9:30:55
Games Work shop plastics are great for conversion. They are easily worked. The lizard men plastics would be great for spawn and draconian alike.
#10

zombiegleemax

Jul 23, 2004 9:45:26
Yeah they might...there´d be a problem with the wings though...the lizardmen I own don´t have any (I don´t think I´ve seen any GW lizardmen that do...) and I don´t know how to make wings...and quite frankly very few of them match my image of dracos (and I have a very specific image...). But that´s just me :D

Ravenmantle
#11

Sysane

Jul 23, 2004 9:54:41
You can pretty much grab wings off anything. I'd suggest hitting a toy store and grabing some discontinued toy line for cheap $$$.
#12

zombiegleemax

Jul 23, 2004 9:57:49
heh that´s a good idea it´s all about being resourceful I guess! ok ok I take back my earlier statement...GW minis aren´t so difficult to convert to Dragonlance!
#13

Sysane

Jul 23, 2004 10:03:01
I've got to get a website going or something. I have tons of figs that I've converted.
#14

Sysane

Jul 23, 2004 10:48:46
http://www.battlegroundgames.com/art_gallery_1.html

Actaully heres a link to one of my figs. Its the Dragon. Click to enlarge.
#15

brimstone

Jul 23, 2004 12:46:35
Originally posted by jechambers
We produced high-quality miniatures sculpted by Julie Guthrie to go with our Sovereign Stone game line a few years ago.

I have a couple of them. I have Dagnarus and one of the vrykyl (did I spell that right, it's been a while since I visited Sovereign Stone). What other minis were created?
Originally posted by jechambers
(Yes, that's a deliberate tease!)

That is great news!! It is also very mean of you. LOL!

I certainly hope it's very DL specific. I mean...and miniature of Mina would be DL specific...but it could also be doubled by one of the other minis. But something like a Sivak or an Aurak...that's "very" DL specific.

There's talk now of more "aspects" and one of the more popular ones is an Aspect of Tiamat or an Aspect of Bahamut...that'd be pretty sweet (except their "aspects" minis aren't very big).
#16

brimstone

Jul 23, 2004 13:06:14
Originally posted by True_Blue
I have some of the old Dragonlance specific miniatures from Ral Partha and that helps. Was wondering if anyone else collected miniatures at all and if they decided to repaint any to make them more Dragonlance-y?

The only problem with the Ral Partha minis is that they're smaller and don't really follow the same scale as the newer ones (like from Chainmail or DDM). I have the Heroes fully painted (Tanis, Tika, Raistlin, Caramon, Goldmoon, Riverwind, Sturm, Tas, Flint, and Laurana). I'd really like to get the Draconians...they're pretty slick looking. And I just saw a mini for Takhisis the other day on eBay...I'd love to get that!

As for repaints...I'm like you, I'm using the young minotaur for a Krynnish minotaur. Not only is it the right size...but it's much lest bestial looking than the others...and the tail is hidden by it's chain skirt. So, my minotaur player is using that. My wizard player is using the Evermeet Wizard (I'm going to repaint the robes white...with maybe some red or gold trim) and the Cleric of Lethander will be repainted to be a cleric of Mishakal (I'll leave the black and gold trim...but everything else in her vestments will be sky blue). Beyond that...I've got a dwarven rogue...not really sure which one to use. He's chosen one...but it doesn't fit his character very well. Ah well...it doesn't really matter that much.

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I'll most likely be using a harpy for the red dragonspawn and a cursed spirit for the spectre. I did pick up some centaurs and air elementals (I'm going off of KoD encounters). The dretch I think is a good mini for the bloated oversized ghast. I'm going to cut the tail off of one of my bone devils for the sickly bearded devil. Got an ochre jelly and of course baaz dracs.

Let's see...what else... There were plenty others that I thought made good cross overs, but I can't remember them now. Oh, well, the Minotaur Skelleton makes a good (if not oversized) mini for the minotaur skelletal warrior friend of Lord Krell's. The Abyssal Eviscerator makes for a good black dragonspawn abomination...maybe a gnoll or a minotaur base creature. And of course the Uni lookin' Unicorn makes for a good mini for the Darken Woods Forestmaster. Dread Guards make perfect Knights of Nereka. The Lizardfolk are okay...but I much prefer the Troglodyte (from Dragoneye) for Krynnish Bakali. I just don't picture Bakali as green...always brown.

And of course, you can always use the Treant as Grimbough. heh heh
#17

true_blue

Jul 23, 2004 13:13:35
Yea I've already used the Dread Guards as Knights of the Lily several times. They work really well, I even have a Ral Partha anti-paladin that I use as a Knight of the Skull. And I use Cultists of the Dragon as my Knights of the Thorn. I've used the troglodytes a few times as draconians in a pinch when I didnt have any. Now I have one kapak and two baaz..I think I'm going to acquire more..maybe buy a small set off of ebay just of draconians and repaint them to be dragonspawn.

I found the Ral Partha miniatures arent bad. All the medium creatures are still medium..they fit in one square. If you have any large creatures like me (frost giants, fire giants, ettins) you can just make bases for them that conform to the rules now.. the Ral Partha figures take up two spaces (long)..just make a base out of wood or paper and glue/tape them. Its worked out for me really well.

It is nice to see that they havent forgot Dragonlance with the miniatures. I like how they are doing support for different books. I think it gets more people to collect them. I've become addicted to em now heh..and am trying to collect all the sets..with extras left over to do what I want like repainting them.
#18

zombiegleemax

Jul 23, 2004 13:21:07
While we´re on the subject of miniatures, what kind/brand of paint should I buy? It´s been years since I painted my minis and I´m considering starting again...

Ravenmantle
#19

brimstone

Jul 23, 2004 13:30:21
Originally posted by Ravenmantle
While we´re on the subject of miniatures, what kind/brand of paint should I buy? It´s been years since I painted my minis and I´m considering starting again...

I have no idea. Back in the day when I painted mine...I just used Testors model paint (after putting on a primer coat of course). I'm sure that's not the easiest paint to use...nor probably even the remotely the best...but it worked fine for me. :D
#20

Sysane

Jul 23, 2004 13:36:06
Games Workshop makes some pretty decent paints. If you buy there starter set its a pretty good deal.
#21

clarkvalentine

Jul 23, 2004 13:41:08
Originally posted by Ravenmantle
While were on the subject of miniatures, what kind/brand of paint should I buy?

I can't recall the brand, but I use acryllic craft paints (much easier to wash brushes and spills, it's water-based). Just the el-cheapo 75 cent bottles from Wal-Mart - they work great. Combine with an acrylic spray primer (white and dark grey, depending on the tone of the character) and sealer, and you're good to go.

That they're water-based makes it much easier to thin and to make washes, too. The mini I just painted for my White Robe PC (Reaper's new one, Piers, Young Mage is the mini's name I think) has a brown wash over it to represent the dust and grime from his time with the Mikku in the desert.
#22

valharic

Jul 23, 2004 16:03:18
I use Vallejo paints, they're suppose to be a top line paint. But the reason I use them is that they come in bottles with a squeeze top bottle, think of a Visine bottle for paint. This makes for better longevity of the paint. If your like me, you go in spurts of painting, sometimes a few months between session, and the GW paints have a tendancy to dryout in the their bottle easier and the screw-on cap tends get crusted on. The Vallejo allows for a longer life paint in these bottles.
#23

zombiegleemax

Jul 23, 2004 16:07:59
Thanks for the advice guys! I do remember the thing about the GW paint...it was always a problem for me, because I also used to paint in intervals with monthly breaks...it was annoying to find out that your paint had dryed out. Not always of course but very often...

Ravenmantle
#24

zombiegleemax

Jul 24, 2004 8:58:45
I recommend Regal Realms (fantasy oriented) and Howard Hues (historical/military) from Noble Miniatures. In the last few years they have become my personal favorites. Vallejo paints are excellent, and Reaper Pro Paint is of good quality as well (though the paint jars are smaller than those from Noble). I started using the Ral Partha paint line many years ago!

Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
#25

zombiegleemax

Jul 25, 2004 0:33:41
I hope the Draconians continue to come out in successive D&D Miniatures lines.

I have old draconian minis from Ral Partha and even some quite decent ones from Grenadier that came out in the mid 80's.

That said, I don't have time to paint anymore and we tend to use a ridiculously large number of minis during our fights, so painting that many has become prohibitive.

One of the guys in my circles just picked up a box of 25 Baaz D&D plastic minis and we've been amassing other common types as well - Kapak as the other available draconian type so far, along with a bucket of goblins and hobgoblins too.

We've got over 1,000 metal miniatures in our group's collection we use, but to tell you the truth - we've all taken quite nicely to the D&D plastic minis and have a few thousand of them. So if WotC has kept that aspect of the license as they want to continue to produce them in plastic - I'm all for it - as long as they continue to actually produce them, of course.
#26

zombiegleemax

Jul 27, 2004 11:49:47
Originally posted by Serena DarkMyst
And here comes my first disagreement with Jamie.....I absolutely hated Mage Knight. Not so much the games....but the minis themselves. My local hobby shop tried to pass the MK Dragonman race off to me as WotC draconians......needless to say I travel to the city for my mini's now

I think it would be cool to see a line of DL MIni's from SP somehow......is that at all possible in the least?

If those are the minis with the unbelievably huge swiveling combat bases I would have to agree with Serena Darkmyst. The minis themselves look ok but try fitting one of those bases onto a DnD combat grid.

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#27

Sysane

Jul 27, 2004 12:01:40
If those are the minis with the unbelievably huge swiveling combat bases I would have to agree with Serena Darkmyst. The minis themselves look ok but try fitting one of those bases onto a DnD combat grid.

They actually aren't that hard to take off the square bases and glue to another smaller one. I've done it before with mage knight figs.
#28

zombiegleemax

Jul 27, 2004 12:05:49
Originally posted by Sysane
They actually aren't that hard to take off the square bases and glue to another smaller one. I've done it before with mage knight figs.

How do you do that without damaging the mini ? I have a few MageKnight miniatures and if I could switch the bases.......

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#29

Sysane

Jul 27, 2004 12:17:37
How do you do that without damaging the mini ? I have a few MageKnight miniatures and if I could switch the bases.......

Your going to need an exacto blade and gently cut beneath the figures feet (or whatever the fig has). It should just pop off.
#30

zombiegleemax

Jul 27, 2004 12:40:53
Will do and thanks for the tip.

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#31

zombiegleemax

Jul 27, 2004 19:51:16
We definately need some kender mini's. My wife loves playing kender (and minotaur's... what a combo). But she get's real mad when I pull out the halflings and gnomes for her to use. It would be nice to see Reaper or someone put out some DLish mini's that one can actually paint. That's my two steel.
#32

valharic

Jul 29, 2004 22:22:50
Follow this link and tell me he dosen't have Dragon Highlord written all over him.

And yes I know he literally dosen't ;)

Click Here
#33

zombiegleemax

Jul 30, 2004 5:07:47
Well he gets my vote for a decent model of the Black and Green Dragon Highlords (their names always seem to elude me). They haven´t really been portrayed all that much in paintings and such, so (with minor alterations) that model could pass off as one of them...

Ravenmantle
#34

cam_banks

Jul 30, 2004 6:33:51
Originally posted by Ravenmantle
Well he gets my vote for a decent model of the Black and Green Dragon Highlords (their names always seem to elude me). They haven´t really been portrayed all that much in paintings and such, so (with minor alterations) that model could pass off as one of them...

Lucien and Salah-Khan, respectively. More Lucien than Salah, however. Salah-Khan needs a little more Khurish influence.

Cheers,
Cam
#35

zombiegleemax

Jul 30, 2004 7:16:06
What would I do without you Cam? ;) thanx for the names! I´ll try to remember them this time! About the Khurish influence though, not much skin is shown on the model and the armor the Dragon Highlords wore were (relatively) uniform...so how would the Khurish influence manifest itself? Just curious

Ravenmantle
#36

cam_banks

Jul 30, 2004 9:23:01
Originally posted by Ravenmantle
What would I do without you Cam? ;) thanx for the names! I´ll try to remember them this time! About the Khurish influence though, not much skin is shown on the model and the armor the Dragon Highlords wore were (relatively) uniform...so how would the Khurish influence manifest itself? Just curious

Verminaard went bare-armed, if you recall. I'm thinking that each highlord tailors his or her armor to suit their tastes. Kitiara's was svelte and midnight-blue, Ariakas' was probably blood-red and covered in regal or imperial touches to signify how important he was. Salah-Khan, being a former Khur warlord, probably has armor that looks a little more Middle Eastern and Mongolian, with a touch of horsehair or furs, perhaps some sharper edges, maybe even with his upper legs and arms bare and a short kilt-like leather skirt. You know the kind of thing.

Cheers,
Cam
#37

brimstone

Jul 30, 2004 10:33:15
I think that's a perfect mini for Lucien. Seeing as how he was the Black Dragon Highlord...it makes sense that he would tailor his armor to resemble that of a black dragon.
#38

cam_banks

Jul 30, 2004 10:49:01
Originally posted by Brimstone
I think that's a perfect mini for Lucien. Seeing as how he was the Black Dragon Highlord...it makes sense that he would tailor his armor to resemble that of a black dragon.

Especially now that black dragons have skull-like faces! Of course, this makes the cobra-like Onyx depiction something of an anomaly, but hey, what can you do.

Lucien and Salah-Khan are my favorites among the highlords. I have a tendency towards liking the underdogs, so to speak - it's also why I prefer brass, bronze and copper dragons to silver and gold.

Cheers,
Cam