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Rudolf van Richten 3rd Edition

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#1
zombiegleemax
Aug 11, 2004 14:29:42 I know he's somewhere out there in the Mists of the Internet, Dr van Richten with stats updated to 3.5 (Exp 7/ Witch-Hunter3 ?), so please show me the way to him...
#2
malus_black
Aug 11, 2004 16:01:05 Quoth the Raven issue 2, page 84.
#3
zombiegleemax
Aug 12, 2004 7:42:22 Officially, he has no stats for 3rd edition. So feel free to peg him however you'd like.

For my part, I'd put him at about 10th level, with a mix between Expert and Rogue levels, along with possibly a scholarly based prestige class of some sort (without any ability to cast spells I might add).
#4
The_Jester
Aug 12, 2004 14:10:04 If you want to get technical and legal it is frowned upon to update characters to the new rules and it is only to be done by Swords and Sorcery / Arthaus.

But as stated there are some 3.0 stats in the Quoth the Raven netbook found at the Fraternity site:
www.fraternityofshadows.com
But these stats are not 3.5 (and thus may be a tad less illegal...) nor do they include the montser-hunter class. He's an expert/rogue/scholar (from Heroes of Light) if I recall correctly.

Of course updating to 3.5 is not that hard and would only take a few minutes to balance out the skills...
#5
zombiegleemax
Aug 12, 2004 15:05:38 Thanks. That's a great variety of stats to choose from, so now 'my' Chilling Tales and Bleak House can get started.
#6
zombiegleemax
Aug 18, 2004 13:30:11 *Looks at the stats*

What is SCH5 ? Scholar ?

~~~
#7
Mortepierre
Aug 18, 2004 16:41:56
Originally posted by LordofIllusions
*Looks at the stats*

What is SCH5 ? Scholar ?

~~~

Sch is the abbreviation for the Scholar PrC described in Heroes of Light
#8
zombiegleemax
Sep 01, 2004 5:20:30
If you want to get technical and legal it is frowned upon to update characters to the new rules and it is only to be done by Swords and Sorcery / Arthaus.

It's not illegal to update anything for your own personal use, no matter what country you live in, you just can't publish it and make a profit from it if it's another entity's property. As for Van Richten's stats, I say why bother if you're going with the flow of time- he's dead. However, the way I read on converting characters, you subtract 2E THAC0 from 20 for BAB. For AC, you also subtract it from 20. Look at his classes and levels in 2E, and use the DMG to make the appropriate class under NPCs. For a really neat twist, add the ghost template to him- voila! he's back! but...good or evil now?
#9
zombiegleemax
Sep 01, 2004 5:24:30 I don't have the books for Sword and Sorcery, and I only gave it a cursory flip-thru, but, is it as bad as some of the posts I've read on here? I know Soth escaped from Ravenloft (too bad- because he killed some of my upstart players a few years back), and besides Strahd, was one of the most intriguing characters.
#10
zombiegleemax
Sep 01, 2004 18:47:29 Indeed Soth is gone. It's detailed in lenght in the novel : Spectre of the Black Rose and gamewise, it's also detailed in Gazetteer IV.

I think most of the S&S Ravenloft books are top notch. Just avoid Champions of Darkness which is really disliked by a majority of fans here. Also, the Ravenloft Campaign Setting and Denizens of Darkness are considered better than their 3.5 "updates" Ravenloft's Player Handbook and Denizens of Dread.

The other books are all very good IMHO
#11
Mortepierre
Sep 02, 2004 1:05:22
Also, the Ravenloft Campaign Setting and Denizens of Darkness are considered better than their 3.5 "updates" Ravenloft's Player Handbook and Denizens of Dread

Eh, I'll take Denizens of Dread over Denizens of Darkness any day. At least they corrected most of the typo in the second book. Still didn't get right the entry for the Doppleganger Plant though
#12
Mortepierre
Sep 02, 2004 1:07:05
As for Van Richten's stats, I say why bother if you're going with the flow of time- he's dead.

Correction. Van Richten is thought to be dead. It is strongly hinted he will play a crucial role during the ToUD that is fast coming.
#13
The_Jester
Sep 02, 2004 1:25:09 It's not that the RL: PHB and Denizens of Dread are thought poorly off. They're all but identical to the other books (RL: Campaign Setting and Denizens of Darkness), they just add very little that is new. And what is new is often poor in the case of the PHB.
It is less of a big deal than most people make it out to be, you'd think the RL: PHB makes Stahd a pink-clad flamenco dancer or something. Instead of just 2-3 pages of new text.

And VanRichten is very much dead. 3/4ths of the time. There were three endings to Bleak House and he either dies or gets bound with the spirit of the house in each one.
Just in Ravenloft things don't always stay dead...

Post/Author/DateTime	Post
#1 zombiegleemax Aug 11, 2004 14:29:42	I know he's somewhere out there in the Mists of the Internet, Dr van Richten with stats updated to 3.5 (Exp 7/ Witch-Hunter3 ?), so please show me the way to him...
#2 malus_black Aug 11, 2004 16:01:05	Quoth the Raven issue 2, page 84.
#3 zombiegleemax Aug 12, 2004 7:42:22	Officially, he has no stats for 3rd edition. So feel free to peg him however you'd like. For my part, I'd put him at about 10th level, with a mix between Expert and Rogue levels, along with possibly a scholarly based prestige class of some sort (without any ability to cast spells I might add).
#4 The_Jester Aug 12, 2004 14:10:04	If you want to get technical and legal it is frowned upon to update characters to the new rules and it is only to be done by Swords and Sorcery / Arthaus. But as stated there are some 3.0 stats in the Quoth the Raven netbook found at the Fraternity site: www.fraternityofshadows.com But these stats are not 3.5 (and thus may be a tad less illegal...) nor do they include the montser-hunter class. He's an expert/rogue/scholar (from Heroes of Light) if I recall correctly. Of course updating to 3.5 is not that hard and would only take a few minutes to balance out the skills...
#5 zombiegleemax Aug 12, 2004 15:05:38	Thanks. That's a great variety of stats to choose from, so now 'my' Chilling Tales and Bleak House can get started.
#6 zombiegleemax Aug 18, 2004 13:30:11	Looks at the stats What is SCH5 ? Scholar ? ~~~
#7 Mortepierre Aug 18, 2004 16:41:56	Originally posted by LordofIllusions Looks at the stats What is SCH5 ? Scholar ? ~~~ Sch is the abbreviation for the Scholar PrC described in Heroes of Light
#8 zombiegleemax Sep 01, 2004 5:20:30	If you want to get technical and legal it is frowned upon to update characters to the new rules and it is only to be done by Swords and Sorcery / Arthaus. It's not illegal to update anything for your own personal use, no matter what country you live in, you just can't publish it and make a profit from it if it's another entity's property. As for Van Richten's stats, I say why bother if you're going with the flow of time- he's dead. However, the way I read on converting characters, you subtract 2E THAC0 from 20 for BAB. For AC, you also subtract it from 20. Look at his classes and levels in 2E, and use the DMG to make the appropriate class under NPCs. For a really neat twist, add the ghost template to him- voila! he's back! but...good or evil now?
#9 zombiegleemax Sep 01, 2004 5:24:30	I don't have the books for Sword and Sorcery, and I only gave it a cursory flip-thru, but, is it as bad as some of the posts I've read on here? I know Soth escaped from Ravenloft (too bad- because he killed some of my upstart players a few years back), and besides Strahd, was one of the most intriguing characters.
#10 zombiegleemax Sep 01, 2004 18:47:29	Indeed Soth is gone. It's detailed in lenght in the novel : Spectre of the Black Rose and gamewise, it's also detailed in Gazetteer IV. I think most of the S&S Ravenloft books are top notch. Just avoid Champions of Darkness which is really disliked by a majority of fans here. Also, the Ravenloft Campaign Setting and Denizens of Darkness are considered better than their 3.5 "updates" Ravenloft's Player Handbook and Denizens of Dread. The other books are all very good IMHO
#11 Mortepierre Sep 02, 2004 1:05:22	Also, the Ravenloft Campaign Setting and Denizens of Darkness are considered better than their 3.5 "updates" Ravenloft's Player Handbook and Denizens of Dread Eh, I'll take Denizens of Dread over Denizens of Darkness any day. At least they corrected most of the typo in the second book. Still didn't get right the entry for the Doppleganger Plant though
#12 Mortepierre Sep 02, 2004 1:07:05	As for Van Richten's stats, I say why bother if you're going with the flow of time- he's dead. Correction. Van Richten is thought to be dead. It is strongly hinted he will play a crucial role during the ToUD that is fast coming.
#13 The_Jester Sep 02, 2004 1:25:09	It's not that the RL: PHB and Denizens of Dread are thought poorly off. They're all but identical to the other books (RL: Campaign Setting and Denizens of Darkness), they just add very little that is new. And what is new is often poor in the case of the PHB. It is less of a big deal than most people make it out to be, you'd think the RL: PHB makes Stahd a pink-clad flamenco dancer or something. Instead of just 2-3 pages of new text. And VanRichten is very much dead. 3/4ths of the time. There were three endings to Bleak House and he either dies or gets bound with the spirit of the house in each one. Just in Ravenloft things don't always stay dead...