War of the Lance geography section

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#1

iltharanos

Aug 23, 2004 23:39:31
So ... for those that have the WotL book ...

1. Are population figures given for the various nations/regions of War of the Lance-era Ansalon?

e.g. Qualinesti - Population: 75,000 (99% Qualinesti, 1% other)
Major Cities: Qualinost (26,000 - Metropolis)
etc. etc.

2. Does it describe Solamnia's government, the local political climate, etc.?
#2

cam_banks

Aug 23, 2004 23:41:28
1. Yes.

2. Yes.

Cheers,
Cam
#3

green_cloaked_sorcerer

Aug 24, 2004 0:01:05
Originally posted by Cam Banks
1. Yes.

2. Yes.

Cheers,
Cam

Simple words from a Great man!


Voteing Wies/Hickman '04!
GCS
#4

iltharanos

Aug 24, 2004 0:18:21
Originally posted by Cam Banks
1. Yes.

2. Yes.

Cheers,
Cam

Damn, that is sweet. Argh, 5+ weeks more to go!
#5

talinthas

Aug 24, 2004 1:15:54
well, actually, qualinesti has a population of 41,760, and is 90% qualinesti =)
Qualinost, btw, is a metropolis of 20,159 =)
#6

iltharanos

Aug 24, 2004 1:33:43
Originally posted by talinthas
well, actually, qualinesti has a population of 41,760, and is 90% qualinesti =)
Qualinost, btw, is a metropolis of 20,159 =)

*wipes a tear away from his eye*

Ahh, so sweet. While it was good in one way (DM freedom) that there were no solid national population numbers in the DLCS ... it's better in many other ways to actually know how many elves live in Qualinesti or how many people live in Solamnia. I don't think I've ever looked forward to any Dragonlance product more than I am looking forward to the WotL book! :D

On a side note ... talk about putting all your eggs in one basket, 50% of their population in one city? Silly elves. Muhuhahaha.
#7

cam_banks

Aug 24, 2004 6:40:47
Originally posted by iltharanos

Ahh, so sweet. While it was good in one way (DM freedom) that there were no solid national population numbers in the DLCS ... it's better in many other ways to actually know how many elves live in Qualinesti or how many people live in Solamnia.

One caveat though, folks - much as it might be really cool to use these figures and the DMG to try to determine how many people of each character class a town or region has, I wouldn't rely on any figures you end up with for spellcasters. There really aren't thousands and thousands of wizards and clerics and druids in the larger nations, even if the standard D&D population generators tell you there are.

Cheers,
Cam
#8

kipper_snifferdoo_02

Aug 24, 2004 7:45:08
Originally posted by iltharanos
[BOn a side note ... talk about putting all your eggs in one basket, 50% of their population in one city? Silly elves. Muhuhahaha. [/b]

The population figure for Silvanesti at this time is even more interesting. ;)
#9

zombiegleemax

Aug 24, 2004 8:54:30
Originally posted by iltharanos

etc. etc.

2. Does it describe Solamnia's government, the local political climate, etc.?

I was under the impression that everyone was sort of in agreement on Solamnia's Political/Government.

It is clear to me that while the Knights of Solamnia are Solamnia's Defenders, they are not it's rulers. While there are places where the Knights certainly do control (Whitestone, Vingaard Keep, the High Clerists Tower) and while they maintain precences in other places (Palanthus, elsewhere), that the Knights protect these areas but don't actually rule them, whom in turn have thier own governments (ie, Palanthus with it's Lord, etc).
#10

cam_banks

Aug 24, 2004 8:58:21
Originally posted by DmJoeSolarte
It is clear to me that while the Knights of Solamnia are Solamnia's Defenders, they are not it's rulers. While there are places where the Knights certainly do control (Whitestone, Vingaard Keep, the High Clerists Tower) and while they maintain precences in other places (Palanthus, elsewhere), that the Knights protect these areas but don't actually rule them, whom in turn have thier own governments (ie, Palanthus with it's Lord, etc).

This is very much the case after the Cataclysm, with independent city-states governing themselves and their surrounding client counties etc as much as possible. Palanthas is the best example, with Solanthus and others following suit. Prior to the Cataclysm, the government of these cities and towns was in the hands of noble families who were more or less synonymous with Solamnic knight families, so the knighthood is, in fact, ruling Solamnia in the Age of Might. It's a matter of semantics in many cases - you didn't have to be a knight to be in charge, but much of the time you were.

Cheers,
Cam
#11

kipper_snifferdoo_02

Aug 24, 2004 9:04:12
Originally posted by iltharanos
So ... for those that have the WotL book ...

1. Are population figures given for the various nations/regions of War of the Lance-era Ansalon?

e.g. Qualinesti - Population: 75,000 (99% Qualinesti, 1% other)
Major Cities: Qualinost (26,000 - Metropolis)
etc. etc.

2. Does it describe Solamnia's government, the local political climate, etc.?

You also forgot number 3

3. Does it tell us who the mayor of Solace is?

The answer... "Yes" even though Hederick is in charge at the moment.
#12

talinthas

Aug 24, 2004 10:50:46
you know, in 2000, i went to gencon, and begged tracy and margaret to tell me two things- the government of solamnia and the mayor of solace.

The first thing trampas showed me when he made it to GC was the mayor of Solace, and the first thing i looked up myself was the govt of solamnia.

/ego boost

man, i can't tell you how impressed i am with this book.
#13

kipper_snifferdoo_02

Aug 24, 2004 11:40:02
Originally posted by talinthas
you know, in 2000, i went to gencon, and begged tracy and margaret to tell me two things- the government of solamnia and the mayor of solace.

The first thing trampas showed me when he made it to GC was the mayor of Solace, and the first thing i looked up myself was the govt of solamnia.

/ego boost

man, i can't tell you how impressed i am with this book.

When we worked on Chapter 3 we wanted to make sure that all the questions that had been asked for countless years would finally have an answer. Now we might not have answered ALL the questions and the ones we did answer I'm sure some people may not agree with 100%, but we did our best to flesh out every region with the same abundant amount of attention and detail so that we didn't have tons of info on Abanasinia and leave Lemish or Nordmaar out of the loop. I really hope that the regional work done in Chapter 3 pleases as many people as possibly.
#14

cam_banks

Aug 24, 2004 12:18:35
Originally posted by Kipper Snifferdoo
When we worked on Chapter 3 we wanted to make sure that all the questions that had been asked for countless years would finally have an answer.

Although there are no marked borders. Seriously. Krynn's nations have no borders in the Age of Despair, other than natural ones created by mountains and rivers. So if anybody asks why the maps have no borders, you can tell them - there aren't any, and Krynnish maps don't include them.

Cheers,
Cam
#15

zombiegleemax

Aug 24, 2004 12:33:05
Is the WotL book out? Why can't I find any information on it at dragonlance.com? Anyone have a link for me?
#16

zombiegleemax

Aug 30, 2004 20:44:01
Is the WotL book out? Why can't I find any information on it at dragonlance.com? Anyone have a link for me?

Here's the product information page: http://www.dragonlance.com/products/SVP-4002.aspx

And the web preview page: http://www.dragonlance.com/products/enhancements/10006.aspx

The book should be out October 1st!

Jamie Chambers
Sovereign Press, Inc.
#17

brimstone

Sep 01, 2004 12:32:02
Although there are no marked borders. Seriously. Krynn's nations have no borders in the Age of Despair, other than natural ones created by mountains and rivers. So if anybody asks why the maps have no borders, you can tell them - there aren't any, and Krynnish maps don't include them.

Um...okay?

Not to dispute what you're saying...but...I know at least some of the maps in WotL have borders. And...where has it ever been stated that there are no borders during the Age of Despair?

#18

iltharanos

Sep 01, 2004 13:11:49
Um...okay?

Not to dispute what you're saying...but...I know at least some of the maps in WotL have borders. And...where has it ever been stated that there are no borders during the Age of Despair?


Well, there were no borders in The Atlas of Krynn ... erm, actually there were. Maybe Cam is referring to certain nations/regions? Not having WotL yet I can only go by previous 4th age maps, all of which do show borders for the various nations/regions ... except for Southern Ergoth and Icewall Glacier.
#19

cam_banks

Sep 01, 2004 15:11:23
Well, there were no borders in The Atlas of Krynn ... erm, actually there were. Maybe Cam is referring to certain nations/regions? Not having WotL yet I can only go by previous 4th age maps, all of which do show borders for the various nations/regions ... except for Southern Ergoth and Icewall Glacier.

Yeah, that's what I meant.

Cheers,
Cam