--and furthermore, what happened to these mighty wyrms once Malys and co. showed up? NB
Great dragons of the 3rd and 4th age would include:
Thunderstrike, Werewrym, Icekill and Immolatus in addition to Cyan.
Immolatus was the big red and favorite of Takhisis - he's the villain in Brothers in Arms - remember?
Uhmm, yes there are plenty of ooh scarey dragons before these Jean Rabesque alien dragons came along (good riddance Overlords, don't let the door hit your butt on the way out).
Great dragons of the 3rd and 4th age would include:
Thunderstrike, Werewrym, Icekill and Immolatus in addition to Cyan.
Immolatus was the big red and favorite of Takhisis - he's the villain in Brothers in Arms - remember?
Yes, but don't all those dragons come during or just before the war with the companions? That would mean that there were no dragons anywhere until the war then, right?
Yes, but don't all those dragons come during or just before the war with the companions? That would mean that there were no dragons anywhere until the war then, right?
Yes, and no. Yes in that there wasn't supposed to be any. No because various novels made use of "single" draconic encounter during 3rd (and 4th)age. Witness, the various Kaz novels or Knight of the Sword. However, I'll grant you these were special cases given the dragons involved were always awakened for only a short while (although some tried to stay longer...)
Khisanth, and Sleet wasn't terrifying enough. Khisanth was first dragon they ever seen so of course he would of been terrifying. Sleet was a whimp. Got hit by a couple of arrows then ran (yes the dragon sank the ship).
Good dragons that were powerful. Silvara, Mirror, Pyrite, and the Silver that Laurana rode as the Golden General
Uhmm, yes there are plenty of ooh scarey dragons before these Jean Rabesque alien dragons came along (good riddance Overlords, don't let the door hit your butt on the way out).
Well...I think it's hardly fair to blame Ms. Rabe for the Overlords.
Anywho...as for heavy hitters. I disagree with some of what has been said. Ember didn't last long, Onyx was weak and killed, Sleet was an idiot, didn't even Immolatus die?
Of the 4th Age...I think Cyan and Skie are definately two biggies. D'Argent is the only good dragon I can think of right now that could be called a "heavy hitter." I mean, there are plenty of dragons mentioned...but I certainly wouldn't call them heavy hitters.
Hey Jonesy...where the dragon thread? Is it here somewhere? That'd be helpful. I have a copy of it if it doesn't exist anymore and we can repost it.
Hey Jonesy...where the dragon thread? Is it here somewhere? That'd be helpful. I have a copy of it if it doesn't exist anymore and we can repost it.
This is newer than the one on the thread (although I do think it's still around here somewhere), and I've sent this to the Nexus, but so far they have the older one up (I guess they've been too busy to update it).
Dragons in Novels
Last update January 27th 2004
-Legend:
Name/Nickname(s) (type) - relations .novels appeared in (most notable appearances)
-The Dragon Gods:
Paladine/The Platinum Dragon/Draco Paladin/Bah'Mut .TLoH
Takhisis/The Five-Headed Dragon/The Dragonqueen/Tii'Mhut .TLoH
-The Five Daughters of Paladine:
Aurora (gold) - defeated the Five Sons .TDaW .The Dragons
Haraineer (bronze) .TDaW
Querrasian (copper) .TDaW
Sheeranar (brass) .TDaW
Tianaran/Argyn (silver) .TDaW .The Dragons
-The Five Sons of Takhisis:
Akis (tin > white) - defeated Haraineer .TDaW
Arkan (copper > blue) - defeated Tianaran .TDaW
Corrozus (lead > black) - defeated Querrasian .TDaW
Furyion (iron > red) - defeated Aurora .TDaW
Korril (nickel > green) - defeated Sheeranar .TDaW
-Second generation dragons (the first ones born on Krynn):
Aurican (gold) - son of Aurora .The Dragons
Aysa (bronze) - daughter of Haraineer.The Dragons
Blayze (copper) - son of Querrasian .The Dragons
Burll (bronze) - son of Haraineer .The Dragons
Crematia (red) - daughter of Furyion.The Dragons
Darlantan (silver) - son of Tianaran .The Dragons
Kenta (silver) - daughter of Tianaran .The Dragons
Mydass (gold) - daughter of Aurora .The Dragons
Oro (gold) - daughter of Aurora.The Dragons
Smelt (brass) - son of Sheeranar.The Dragons
Turq (silver) - daughter of Tianaran .The Dragons
-Third generation dragons:
Auricus (gold) - son of Aurican .The Dragons
Callak (silver) - son of Darlantan .The Dragons
Daria (silver) - mate of Callak .The Dragons
Dazzall (brass) - son of Smelt .The Dragons
Deathfyre (red) - son of Crematia .The Dragons
Tharn (copper) - son of Blayze .The Dragons
-Fourth generation dragons:
Arumnus (gold) - son of Auricus .The Dragons
Azurus (blue) .The Dragons
Bolt (bronze) - mount for Kaz .The Dragons .TLoH
Corro (black) .The Dragons
Cymbol (copper) - son of Tharn .The Dragons
D'Argent/Silvart/Silvara/Arlena Plata (silver) - sister of Lectral, mount for Gilthanas .The Dragons .DoWN .DoaNA
Heart/Gwyneth (silver) - sister of Lectral, mount for Huma .The Dragons .TLoH
Kord (brass) - son of Dazzall .The Dragons
Lectral (silver) - son of Callak, brother of Heart .The Dragons
Regia (gold) - sister of Arumnus .The Dragons
Saytica (silver) - sister of Lectral .The Dragons
Tombfyre (red) - son of Deathfyre, mount for Ariakas .The Dragons .EoA
-Fifth generation dragons:
Dargentan (silver) - son of Lectral .The Dragons
Darlant (silver) - son of Lectral .The Dragons
-Dragons with unclear ancestry:
Aerensianic/Aeren (green) - mate of Toxyria .TPK
Aester (bronze) .SotW
Amylyrix (bronze) - mother of Duranix .BotD
Andorung (red) .SotW
Arkas (gold) .The Dragons
Asperitius/Ashe (copper) .DoaNA
Aureal (gold) .TDoK
Auris (red) .TDoC
Beldieze (silver) .TDaW
Blackshanks (black) .TDoC
Blade (blue) - guardian of Tramd's citadel .DtD
Blood Gem (red) - mount for Phair Caron .DtD
Bloodglitter (red) .TDoK
Blusidar (bronze) - mate of Duranix .SotS
Bolt (blue) .HaF
Borac (black) .TDaW .TDoC
Cerium (blue) - mount for Mirielle Abrena .LoS
Char/Kaeley (blue) .TDaW
Charynsanth (red) .Conundrum
Chase (silver) - one of the guardians of the tomb of Huma .TotNS
Chayne (silver) .CotL
Claw (copper) .TDoK
Cobalt (blue) - mount for Sara Dunstan .LoS
Coss (black) .The Dragons
Croesus (copper) .TDoK
Crucible (bronze) - friend of Linsha Majere .TCC .CotL
Cupelix Trisfendamir/Pteriol (brass) .DaL
Curor Bonebreak (black) .TDaW
Cyan Bloodbane (green) .DoWN .TLoH .TWoS
Darknight (black) .Stormblade
Dathylark (brass) - one of Iyesta's brass guards .CotL
Desiristian (gold) .CotL
Dnestr (black) - Khoal's collaborator .TBW
Doom (red) .DtD
Duranix (bronze) - friend of Amero .CotP .BotD .SotS
Dusk (blue) .R&O
Ebon Nightshadow (black) .TGD
Eclipse (black) - twin of Murk .The Citadel
Elgan/Gannie (silver) .TDaW
Firefang (red) .TWoS
Firegold (gold) - mount for Crysania .TotNS .DoSF
Firestorm (red) .TCC
Ferno (red) .DoaNA
Flame Searclaw (red) .WotL .TGD
Flamestrike/Matafleur (red) .DoAT
Flare (blue) - mount for Sara Dunstan and Steel Brightblade .TSG .DoSF
Flarion (red) .Draconian Measures
Flayzeranyx/Flayze (red) .Fistandantilus Reborn
Fyremantle (red) .Dragon's Bluff
Gallinthus/Gale (blue) - mount for Dhamon .DoaNA
Gilar (brass) .SotS
Glisten (gold) - mate of Sunfire .The Citadel
Goldstrike (gold) - (possibly) mate of Firegold .TotNS
Harkiel (red) - the creator of the draconian race along with the mage Dracart and the cleric Wyrllish .The Dragons
Hekhorath (red) .SotW
Hipparan (copper) .KotC
Hollinstress/Firebird (red) - lieutenant of Malys .DoaNA
Howl (blue) .LoS
Icekill (white) .BiA
Immolatus (red) .BiA
Infernus (red) - the one who made minotaurs slavesoldiers for the ogres during the third dragon war .LotM
Jaegendar (black) .TDaW
Jahet (black) - mount for Maldeev .TBW
Kalkon (brass) .TDaW
Kerristillax (white) .TDoC
Khirsah/Fireflash (bronze) - mount for Tas .The Dragons .DoSD .Legends
Khisanth/Onyx (black) - the guardian of Xak Tsaroth .DoAT .TBW
Khoal (black) - betrayed the Black Wing .TBW
Klassh (red) .TDaW
Kopernus (copper) .TDI
Korylark (brass) - one of Iyesta's brass guards .CotL
Koryon/Kory (silver) .TDaW
Lhode (black) .TBW
Mirror (silver) - guardian of the Citadel of Light .TWoS
Murk (black) - twin of Eclipse .The Citadel
Murmoroc (blue) .TMoN
Neetra (black) - Khoal's collaborator .TBW
Oliver (bronze) .TDoK
Pteros/Pitch (black) - Khisant's tutor .TBW
Purestian (brass) .CotL
Pyrite (gold) - mount for Fizban .DoSD
Pyros/Ember (red) - mount for Verminaard .DoAT .BtM
Quallathan (gold) - mount for Laurana .The Dragons
Razer (bronze) .TDoC
Razor (blue) .TWoS
Ringg (gold) .CotL
Salamantix (copper) - twin of Suphenthrex .SotS
Scorchfinger (red) .TPoG
Seridanax (bronze) - son of Duranix .SotS
Shadow (black) .TBW
Shalebreak (blue) .TDaW
Sheen Vlootsad (silver) .TDoC
Shimanloreth/Shimmer (bronze) .TDI
Shimmer (bronze) .DoaNA
Skyleth (silver) - sire of Ilinana .TDaW
Smalt (blue) .TWoS
Softfire (silver) .TtSY
Spuryten (blue) .The Dragons
Squall (blue) .LoS
Sterellus (bronze) .TOoG
Sthenn (green) .CotP .BotD .SotS
Sthinissh (green) .SotW
Sunfire (gold) - the protector of Gwynned .The Citadel
Sunrise (gold) - mount for Ulin .DoaNA
Suphenthrex (copper) - twin of Salamantix .SotS
Talon (black) .TBW
Tanalish (brass) .TDI
Tariskatt (bronze) .TDaW
Terrisleetix/Sleet (white) .DoAT .DoC
Tevarrek (copper) .TDaW
Thassalark (brass) - one of Iyesta's brass guards .CotL
Thrakdar (brass) .TDI
Thrakdil (brass) .TDI
Thunderstrike (blue) .BiA
Tiberia/Ty (silver) - daughter of Tyberion, mount for Kaz .LotM
Tosch (brass) .LaW
Toxyria/Toxy (green) - mate of Aeren .TPK
Tumult (blue) .LoS
Tyberion (silver) - sire of Tiberia .LotM
Tyrannus Bloodbane (green) - ancestor of Cyan Bloodbane .RotBS
Venerable Ro (bronze) - sire of Duranix .SotS
Venge Scarlet (red) .TGD
Viper (green) - attacked Silvanesti with Cyan .DtD
Werewrym (black) .BiA
-The Overlords:
Beryllinthranox/Beryl/The Green Peril (green/alien) .DoaNA .TWoS
Brynseldimer/Brine (sea) .DoaNA
Gellidus/Frost/The Ice Tyrant (white/alien) .DoaNA .TWoS
Khellendros/Skie/The Storm Over Krynn (blue/alien) .DoWN .DoSD .Legends .DoaNA .TWoS
Malystryx/Malys/The Red Marauder (red/alien) .DoaNA .TWoS
Onysablet/Sable/The Living Darkness (black/alien) .DoaNA .TWoS
-The Dragonlords:
Fenalysten/Cinder (red) .TOoG
Iyesta/Splendor (brass) .TOoG
Lorrinar/Fume (green/alien) .TOoG
Mohrlex/Pitch (black) .TOoG
Pyrothraxus/Pyro (red/alien) .TRatS
Cryonisis/Ice (white) .CotL
Frisindia/Freeze (white) .CotL
Stenndunuus/Thunder (blue/alien) .CotL
-Miscellaneous dragons:
Clamor (blue > chaos) - corrupted by chaos .TDoC
Dhamon (shadow) .TDS
Hopsloth (amphi) .Lord Toede
Ilinana (silver half-dragon) - daughter of Skyleth .TDaW
Liam (silver half-dragon) - the son of Huma .TDoC
Mapshaker Wanderfuss (kendragon) .TDoK
Primus (chaos/fire) - mount for Zarak Thuul .TLT
Tempest (sea) .TDI
Torvin (human/silver) .TDaW
Verden Leafglow (green > neutral) .WotL .TGD
Wyrmfather (undefined) .TLoH
-Additional unnamed uniques:
Starlight dragon (chaos/starlight) .TDoC
The Novels:
.BiA (Brothers in Arms)
.BotD (Brother of the Dragon)
.BtM (Before the Mask)
.Conundrum
.CotL (City of the Lost)
.CotP (Children of the Plains)
.DaL (Darkness and Light)
.DoAT (Dragons of Autumn twilight)
.DoaNA (Dragons of a New Age trilogy)
.DoWN (Dragons of Winter Night)
.DoSD (Dragons of Spring Dawning)
.DoSF (Dragons of Summer Flame)
.Draconian Measures
.Dragon's Bluff
.DtD (Dalamar the Dark)
.EoA (Emperor of Ansalon)
.Fistandantilus Reborn
.HaF (Heroes and Fools)
.KotC (Knights of the Crown)
.LaW (Love and War)
.Legends (The Legends trilogy)
.Lord Toede
.LoS (Legacy of Steel)
.LotM (Land of the Minotaurs)
.R&O (Relics & Omens)
.RotBS (Reavers of the Blood Sea)
.SotS (Sister of the Sword)
.SotW (Spirit of the Wind)
.Stormblade
.TBW (The Black Wing)
.TCC (The Clandestine Circle)
.TDaW (The Dragons at War)
.TDI (The Dragon Isles)
.TDoC (The Dragons of Chaos)
.TDoK (The Dragons of Krynn)
.TDS (The Dhamon Saga)
.TGD (The Gully Dwarves)
.The Citadel
.TLT (The Last Thane)
.TMoN (The Middle of Nowhere)
.TOoG (The Odyssey of Gilthanas)
.TotNS (Tears of the Night Sky)
.TPK (The Puppet King)
.TPoG (The Players of Gilean)
.TRatS (The Rose and the Skull)
.TSG (The Second Generation)
.TtSY (Tanis the Shadow Years)
.TWoS (The War of Souls trilogy)
.The Dragons
.TLoH (The Legend of Huma)
.WotL (War of the Lance)
193 dragons
2 dragon gods
87 metallic
18 gold
23 silver
18 bronze
12 copper
16 brass
93 chromatic (8 alien)
30 red (2 alien)
22 blue (2 alien)
11 green (2 alien)
23 black (1 alien)
7 white (1 alien)
1 amphi
1 chaos/fire
1 chaos/starlight
1 kendragon
2 sea
1 shadow
1 shapeshifted wizard (Torvin)
2 silver half-dragons
1 undefined (Wyrmfather)
The shadow dragon in Skullcap needs to be mentioned as well.
Why? They're certainly not what I would call "heavy hitters." What makes them so special (aside from being mentioned in a module) that makes them one of the most powerful dragons of teh 4th Age?
Note that the list is up to date only as far as the date on top indicates. So dragons in the novels that have been published after that may not be there.
Thanks for the updated list!
Yeah, there are a few missing at this point. There's two from the Young Reader's series (neithers' name I can recall at the moment). I would think the new Age of Mortals books have dragons...but I'm not sure on that either.
And of course, the latest anthology book has several.
I still think this is one of the greatest lists ever compiled. It'd be slick to get one of these for characters, too.
The Dragonlance Encyclopedia is revived! heh heh
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NBIt'd be slick to get one of these for characters, too.
Uziel has been hinting to me that he has similar lists for pretty much everything under the sun and I've been hinting to him that he should post them on the Chambers of Astinus. But he is only one man with limited time on his hands. :whatsthis
Why? They're certainly not what I would call "heavy hitters." What makes them so special (aside from being mentioned in a module) that makes them one of the most powerful dragons of teh 4th Age?
Actually if you updated them to 3.5 then yes, it makes them among the most powerful of the dragons, especially the shadow dragon.
Except the shadow dragons are a creation of Chaos during the Chaos War, which technically is not in the 4th Age but the beginning of the 5th Age.
One of them was.
Not all of them are.
Cheers,
Cam
That's interesting. You never see them until after the Chaos Wart so I assumed that they didn't exsist until after then. Are there any books/stories that have shadow dragons before the Chaos War?
Whisper's the main example of a shadow dragon in the pre-Chaos War era. His statistics are included in Chapter 6 of the War of the Lance sourcebook. Shadow dragons are not natives of Krynn; they're always called from Beyond through the plane of shadow (or in Chaos' case, through him) or similar means. Fistandantilus is responsible for putting Whisper in Zhaman, one of his more dangerous guardians.
Cheers,
Cam
the shadow dragons from 3.5 are pretty tuff but in dragonlance books i have not heard one mentioned but then again i am still pretty new too dragonlance stuff just finished reading legonds but man i am shure a big fan now
There are two known shadow dragons in Krynn. Whisper (in Skullcap), and one from the Rabe trilogies...it became a pretty big player in the Dhamon Saga.
Whisper's the main example of a shadow dragon in the pre-Chaos War era. His statistics are included in Chapter 6 of the War of the Lance sourcebook.
Oops...should have read through to the end before I posted. heh heh :D
GCS
I thought there were no Half-Dragons in DragonLance? Also I didn't think all of the Dragon Overloards we alien,I havn't read all the books yet so I guess I'm just asking. This is just what I was told. Plus if there are half-dragons, wouldn't the Wizards of High Sorcerery hunt them down for being able to use the primal Sorcerey? What exactly is a kendragon too? Thanks guys
All of your questions come from short stories...which typically don't really follow true to Dragonlance cannon, and should probably just be taken as "kender tales." Especially the one about Liam (the half-silver dragon...son of Huma and Heart). The two of them chose to fight, not to "be" with one another. It was part of the sacrifice...so I don't think there was any time for human/dragon hanky panky.
As for the kendragon...it's probably best not to ask. heh heh
It has yet to be seen as to what Dhamon is exactly...
Does the War of the Lance sourcebook talk about what ever happened to Whisper and give his history? I would like to know more about him. I think that shadow dragons are just coolness. They are mean to fight.
WotL details Whisper at that point in time, though it isn't known where he may have originated.
All of your questions come from short stories...which typically don't really follow true to Dragonlance cannon, and should probably just be taken as "kender tales." Especially the one about Liam (the half-silver dragon...son of Huma and Heart). The two of them chose to fight, not to "be" with one another. It was part of the sacrifice...so I don't think there was any time for human/dragon hanky panky.
As for the kendragon...it's probably best not to ask. heh heh
It has yet to be seen as to what Dhamon is exactly...
Thats a bit confusing but i agree no human/dragon fun, since Silvara and Gilthanas didn't do anything either.
lol ok but thr Kendragon, but still what bout the overloards were they all aliens?
GCS
...but still what bout the overloards were they all aliens?
Yes. Even Skie. Plus three of the Dragonlords.
Uziel has been hinting to me that he has similar lists for pretty much everything under the sun and I've been hinting to him that he should post them on the Chambers of Astinus. But he is only one man with limited time on his hands. :whatsthis
That is one great list of dragons!
To compare which dragons are heavy hitters it would be more easy if we could get their age level. I know there isn't that info from all of them, because only game products give those info. But many dragons age/stats are given in different game modules (2nd edition, 3rd edition, SAGA). To make ultimate list about dragons would be add that info from the end of 4th age and 5th age period there...
Don't ask me who's going to do that - I'm just giving ideas...
Wasnt there a metallic dragon that became an overlord? Is that dragon no more? Why would a good dragon become an overlord? It is something that I do not understand.
Yes there was a good dragon that became a Minor overlord. I don't think the dragon had a skull totem though.
As for why would a good dragon become an overlord. Think about it. All the evil dragons that became overlord. They destroy the land and people within their territory. (not completely wipe them out but just to knock them down)
Well a good dragon would help protect the land and the people within its territory that in itself is good enough reason to become an overlord.
She was killed though wasnt she? Where is the story of the good dragon overlord?
Read the Linsha novels for more information about Iyesta the Brass. Or, pick up the older SAGA materials, which have a lot of background for the Fifth Age which you keep asking about.
Cheers,
Cam
Tanti grazie per tutti gli informazione Dragonhelm.
Perchè continuate a denominarli Dragonhelm?
Check the post header, Amaron.
Cheers,
Cam