People of Ansalon

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#1

zombiegleemax

Sep 02, 2004 13:41:59
Geez the DLCS really really sucksckscks....

Can anyone direct me to information on the population of the nations of Ansalon prior to the War of Souls, specifically the elven nations, Solamnia, and Ergoth?
#2

brimstone

Sep 02, 2004 13:58:52
Geez the DLCS really really sucksckscks....

Can anyone direct me to information on the population of the nations of Ansalon prior to the War of Souls, specifically the elven nations, Solamnia, and Ergoth?

Naw...but I can direct you to the door...don't let the knob hit...well, I'm sure you know the rest.
#3

talinthas

Sep 02, 2004 14:00:15
The upcoming War of the Lance book has all the answers you seek =)

Mind you, the war of the lance is well before the war of souls, but you can kinda extrapolate.
#4

zombiegleemax

Sep 02, 2004 14:49:33
Naw...but I can direct you to the door...don't let the knob hit...well, I'm sure you know the rest.

Well that was rude. I wonder what caused this.

The upcoming War of the Lance book has all the answers you seek =)

Mind you, the war of the lance is well before the war of souls, but you can kinda extrapolate.

Thank you for being quite helpful. But are you sure the War of the Lance book won't have the same vagueness on geography as the DLCS?
#5

cam_banks

Sep 02, 2004 15:01:44
Thank you for being quite helpful. But are you sure the War of the Lance book won't have the same vagueness on geography as the DLCS?

I can promise you in no uncertain terms that the WotL geography section is like no DL geography section you've seen in any previous gaming supplement for Ansalon.

Cheers,
Cam
#6

talinthas

Sep 02, 2004 15:04:15
i have the book in front of me. 92 pages of indepth geographical and regional data, with population numbers, trade info, important places and important people. When the DLCS came out, i complained long and loud about the geography in it, and they listened =)
#7

green_cloaked_sorcerer

Sep 02, 2004 15:12:01
Well that was rude. I wonder what caused this.

Might possibly be your rudeness in your first post, my dear friend. If you didn't like the authors work, don't insult, use somthing more like, I found the DLCS incredibly unuseful in the information I was researching could someone please tell me where to locate the information on......


thanks GCS (see i can be nice Amaron)
#8

iltharanos

Sep 02, 2004 15:13:53
Well that was rude. I wonder what caused this.

I'm guessing it's because you started off your question with a rather rude comment (in Brimstone's eyes, and others no doubt):

Geez the DLCS really really sucksckscks....

It'd be akin to going to Borders Bookstore seeking their assistance and the first words out of your mouth are words deploring Borders Bookstore. Not exactly starting off on the right foot with regard to those that work at Borders or really enjoy Borders.
#9

cam_banks

Sep 02, 2004 15:34:44
It'd be akin to going to Borders Bookstore seeking their assistance and the first words out of your mouth are words deploring Borders Bookstore. Not exactly starting off on the right foot with regard to those that work at Borders or really enjoy Borders.

Well, yes. Given that many of the contributors to the DLCS and other products read these forums and post here.

Cheers,
Cam
#10

brimstone

Sep 02, 2004 16:01:33
Well that was rude. I wonder what caused this.

The very first comment you made...which not only smelled of trolling, was spelled like a usual trolling as well.
DLCS really really sucksckscks....

I just responded in kind.
#11

brimstone

Sep 02, 2004 16:04:44
When the DLCS came out, i complained long and loud about the geography in it, and they listened =)

But you weren't rude about it, Tal. There's a big difference.
#12

zombiegleemax

Sep 02, 2004 19:41:20
Naw...but I can direct you to the door...don't let the knob hit...well, I'm sure you know the rest.

Darn it! I hate it when people post like that...and I don't get a chance to snub them before they get they're question answered. Good job Brim. Much more restrained than I would have been to such a blatantly rude post.

Anyway...I can say after only have perused the Geography section in WotL for 3 hours and not finishing it I can say with great appreciation and confidence...Most, if not all, questions you have about Ansalon prior to the 5th Age will be answered. If not, feel free to post your questions here, hopefully in a more polite manner, and I'm sure they will be answered quickly and concisely.
#13

ferratus

Sep 03, 2004 0:12:22
Well, yes. Given that many of the contributors to the DLCS and other products read these forums and post here.

Well, at least one contributer to the DLCS really disliked it. ;)
#14

theredrobedwizard

Sep 03, 2004 7:50:18
Geez the DLCS really really sucksckscks....

Sounds kinda like:

hay u guyz teh DCLS suxorz i hoep teh WTLO iz betar tahn teh peice uv carp DCLS!!!!11!!!oneone! war uv soles suxors! long liev war uv teh lanse!!

There aren't enough rolley-eyes in the universe for me to use when I see posts like that.

The DLCS's main focus was on the Fifth Age (Post-War of Souls). This made me a happy gamer, as it is my favorite age.

War of the Lance is a great book, and I suggest that everyone buys at least one copy. I wish the Age of Mortals book was that well put together... not that it's anything but a great book.

In conclusion: AoMortals > AoDespair.

-TRRW
#15

zombiegleemax

Sep 03, 2004 9:23:28
hay u guyz teh DCLS suxorz i hoep teh WTLO iz betar tahn teh peice uv carp DCLS!!!!11!!!oneone! war uv soles suxors! long liev war uv teh lanse!!

LOL!
Sorry if I offended anyone. I love Dragonlance and I was just really upset when I picked up the DLCS and it didn't have what I needed to know. And by the way I think the extra two "cks" was because of computer lag. Sorry again. I love you Brimstone!
#16

jonesy

Sep 03, 2004 9:34:43
...I was just really upset when I picked up the DLCS and it didn't have what I needed to know...

Knowing the perfectionists that inhabit this board (why are you looking at me?), I think many of us have felt like that about every book ever published. ;)
#17

Dragonhelm

Sep 03, 2004 9:50:19
Let's try to get away from the flames and get into something a bit more productive, shall we?

I think it goes without saying that there has been dramatic improvement in the Dragonlance d20 products since the DLCS. Yes, I'm sure some things could be better in the DLCS, but Sovereign Press is taking the feedback of fans into account. When you see War of the Lance, I think you will see just what improvements have been made.

War of the Lance has a massive geography section, which has population figures and the like. It has more geographical info in it than any other DL product prior to it.

I'm anxious to see everyone's reactions when WotL comes out.
#18

green_cloaked_sorcerer

Sep 03, 2004 10:43:24
Let's try to get away from the flames and get into something a bit more productive, shall we?

I think it goes without saying that there has been dramatic improvement in the Dragonlance d20 products since the DLCS. Yes, I'm sure some things could be better in the DLCS, but Sovereign Press is taking the feedback of fans into account. When you see War of the Lance, I think you will see just what improvements have been made.

War of the Lance has a massive geography section, which has population figures and the like. It has more geographical info in it than any other DL product prior to it.

I'm anxious to see everyone's reactions when WotL comes out.

Best D&D product to date if you ask me, you guys go into such detail inthere its amazing. Soooooooooo much detail, and soooo huge, I love it, and the art is amazing, The new classes rock, i have not seen one thing in there that displeased or disappointed me. I hope it gets nomminated for an Ennie, and it best win the gold. You guys had to pour your hearts in to this book. Plus The Lycium or however its spelled is great! I wish it would have had later versions of each character, but then again I guess that was a good place to set them and in the Legends book it'll have updated ones I hope.

In short this book is nothing short of fantastic. Thanks to everyone who had any input on this!

GCS

(Vulgarity is a violation of the [u]WotC Online Code of Conduct[/u] Message Edited by WizO Sith)
#19

zombiegleemax

Sep 03, 2004 10:51:24
The DLCS had everything except a good geography section. The FRCS and the ECS had a good geography section, so I was looking for something like those.
#20

iltharanos

Sep 03, 2004 11:26:32
Us Dragonlance fans (Emeraldfox included of course ) really do have it lucky that SovPress listens to our gripes/comments/ideas/questions on this and other boards. If you ever want to know what it's like to be a fan of a great setting/system and be totally ignored by that company you need look no further than Decipher's CODA Star trek and LotR. :headexplo
#21

green_cloaked_sorcerer

Sep 03, 2004 11:53:42
Us Dragonlance fans (Emeraldfox included of course ) really do have it lucky that SovPress listens to our gripes/comments/ideas/questions on this and other boards. If you ever want to know what it's like to be a fan of a great setting/system and be totally ignored by that company you need look no further than Decipher's CODA Star trek and LotR. :headexplo

Not to mention thier card games, if only they would have listened to me when I told them to not touch EP 1 with the old school Star Wars CCG, but nooooo and now look Wizards has it and the game sucks.... hmm prob shouldn't say that on the Wizards website, not to mention i have yelled at people bout saying other people product sucks, so we'll just say, its not as good as the CCG. But too true Jamie Cam Trampas and everyone here are so incredibly helpful its awesome.

GCS
#22

brimstone

Sep 03, 2004 12:25:38
The DLCS had everything except a good geography section. The FRCS and the ECS had a good geography section, so I was looking for something like those.

And that's fine...I even agree with you (although I thought the geography section was fine...I'd just like more). It was just the way you started. You come into board, and the first thing out of your mouth is a flame. It just wasn't a good way to start out...

Anyway...I wonder if the somewhat lacking geography section at the time was due to the fact that they were planning an atlas/gazeteer in the near future (which has now taken a back seat). Who knows.

There's a lot I would have liked to see in the DLCS that didn't make it...and it seemed awfully short. But, when WotC dictates the number pages, you can't really do anything about that. I would have preferred a 320 pager like WotL, but I'm pleased with what we got.

And really, if you look at all the products so far (DLCS, AoM, DLDMS, KoD, BoK, and now WotL and ToHS) each one has been progressively better than the first. Sovereign Press is truly listening to the fans and listening for what we like and didn't like, and they're taking it to heart. You gotta love that!

But, if fans did nothing but flame the products, without constructive criticism, the good folks with the pens would quit listening to us, and then we'd be no where. Know what I mean?
#23

zombiegleemax

Sep 03, 2004 12:50:00
Lord, If WizO_Sith logs on and sees this he is going to have a ball locking it.

To the original poster: Did you start this thread attempting to get extra information on the various races that inhabit Ansalon ? If so there is supposed to be a book called Races of Ansalon(I think that is the name.) coming out in 2005 sometime.

~~~
#24

jonesy

Sep 03, 2004 13:20:10
Lord, If WizO_Sith logs on and sees this he is going to have a ball locking it.

Sith is currently on a forced vacation due to hurricane Francis. Drake however...
Edit: nevermind, Sith got back already. Am I slow or am I slow.

But seriously, this thread is nothing compared to what I've seen elsewhere here (on the Wiz forums that is. Not on the Dragonlance boards, because I've never seen an actual flame war here). Very tame actually.
#25

iltharanos

Sep 03, 2004 14:42:20
Sith is currently on a forced vacation due to hurricane Francis. Drake however...
Edit: nevermind, Sith got back already. Am I slow or am I slow.

But seriously, this thread is nothing compared to what I've seen elsewhere here (on the Wiz forums that is. Not on the Dragonlance boards, because I've never seen an actual flame war here). Very tame actually.

Yes, I've heard it said from my brother's half-sister's cousin's great uncle that our disputes on this board are considered minor brush fires compared to the Great Burns of the other boards.

As to the original topic, I think Emeraldfox just wanted some hard numbers on the various populations of the countries he mentioned, complete with racial breakdowns in those numbers.